TooFast

Question for Ryanair pilots ( contract or permanent) :

Is it possible to take a number of your annual leave days (say 1, 2 or 3 days) and book them just before or after normal rosters days off?

Example: in a 5/4/5/4 roster , exchange 2 working days with 2 days off taken from annual leave and make:

4/(1)/4/(1)/4/4 = 4/6/4/4


where (X) are the days off taken from annual leave, not normal days off.


Thank you for the help!!

Hary Carin

People think that trade union representation for Ryanair pilots will give them better T's and C's I just can't see it!

the grim repa

Hary there would be no need for union representation and i am sure it would not even be mentioned were it not for mol and his band of henchmen who systematically abuse the pilot workforce to amass astronomical profits.We are not promoting union representation so that we each get a gold bar.we wnat to get fair pay for fair work for all grades of pilot and to work free of intimidation and fear.we cannot get that dealing directly with management,so we have to engage independent arbitration which is open to scrutiny.This is what we have been driven to.i would much rather not have to spend my time on this but i choose to try and make things better.not by running away to a "better" employer but by staying and fighting!for thos eof you who think that these antics will stop in ryanair,you are sadly deluding yourself!

paxboy this letter does resonate with those who work within ryanair.

egcc4284 the sad reality is that the friend of yours will stay on £600 per month for at least 2 years and maybe 3.In that time paying out for everything and paying back his type rating loan.

delwy

Too Fast congrats for keeping trying! Possibly the reason for the tardiness in trying to reply to your questions is, because this is FR, that it is all a bit complicated and it depends what deal you are on, where you are based, whether you are flavour of the month, etc.

What you need to concentrate on more is that part of 5/4/5/4 involves accepting that you can be put on 5/3/5/3 when your employer deems it necessary. Also, some of the "4" days are not actually days off, but part of your leave - around 7 of minimum legal entitlement - if memory serves me correctly. All other leave is used to make up your 4th "day off". (Did anyone mention these little bits .....??). So if you are trying to make this work for you, be sure that your best plans will be thwarted.

At least you are having the wit to ask before you get in and discover the realities. Smoke, mirrors, uncertainty, marketing, propaganda, manipulation - that's the name of the game.

saddest aviator

Just to clear up a point. I did not post the open letter to MOL but felt it needed a wider audience. Sad as it my seem the culture at FR is one of crass management who seem to feel that efficient companies are run by a culture of mass intimidation and bullying. EJ now have a CEO who values and treats as his employees as assets and part of a team. Who will all pull together to ensure the continued success of the company. To assume that the continued success of FR is due to one man (MOL) is naive and arrogant. The long term success of any businness is a team effort with good people providing a good product. This delivers good profits. Look no further than Southwest as an example on how it can be done.
When a single inividual attributes all of a companies success to his obvious skill, interlect and his own man management skills then ultimately you have Ryanair.

rubik101

Harry Carin, tell that to the easyJet pilots. Two years ago, union membership around 30% and T&Cs similar to Ryanair. Since membership has risen to over 65% they have secured T&Cs better than even they expected a year ago. Your mamgement speak just doesn't hold water or even credibility, I'm afraid.