GB Announcement 1st March (Crew thread)
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guys as we said the 1st of march is not far but something tells me it will be nothing quite so dramatic as some people have it in here.LGW SF won t close....new people to come and good luck to them
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a stretch to far
GB are moving to Jubilee House on 1st March 737's are to be joined by Airbuses at Single Fleet Gatwick (SFG) as form March also so I doubt that GB will be taking over routes to run them on these aircraft otherwise why would they convert us.
Personally I can't see a private airline with a fleet of 15 Airbus aircraft taking over a BA base with far more (33) 737/400/500/300 and of course 777 boeings (around 15??)
Okay this is a rumour mill but lets not fantasise. If anything I would say some new routes some swaped routes or maybe they just want to welcome GB to a new place of working. If we get BAConed (a phrase that alwasy makes me hungry) I think certainly 1400 crew would leave in droves, there'e plenty of work out there at the moment.
Personally I can't see a private airline with a fleet of 15 Airbus aircraft taking over a BA base with far more (33) 737/400/500/300 and of course 777 boeings (around 15??)
Okay this is a rumour mill but lets not fantasise. If anything I would say some new routes some swaped routes or maybe they just want to welcome GB to a new place of working. If we get BAConed (a phrase that alwasy makes me hungry) I think certainly 1400 crew would leave in droves, there'e plenty of work out there at the moment.
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GB are going to take over all LGW domestic routes and also the LHR shuttle routes flying W patterns out of LGW. LHR shorthaul is to be sold to BACon to be sold to FlyBe and Willy Walsh was heard to say in the Nags Head "I hate short haul with a passion. FOOLS, I'LL DESTROY THEM ALL!!! MWAHAHAHAHA"
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as flightrider said....
Route swap with BA.
Longer BA Gatwick routes like Izmir, Reykjavik, Varna etc will become GB operations. A320s are much more efficient on these sectors, particularly as BA's 737-400s are payload limited on the return ADB-LGW sectors etc and have limitations on payload on KEF due to diversion alternates.
In return, short GB routes like Nantes and Montpellier will move to BA in return. BA can also use 737-500s on these routes to grow flight frequency and maintain year-round service which is not viable with the A320.
One set of LHR slots to be sold to BA. Double-daily Malaga and single Casablanca to be maintained, the daily LHR/Faro will disappear and be replaced with an extra frequency ex LGW.
Route swap with BA.
Longer BA Gatwick routes like Izmir, Reykjavik, Varna etc will become GB operations. A320s are much more efficient on these sectors, particularly as BA's 737-400s are payload limited on the return ADB-LGW sectors etc and have limitations on payload on KEF due to diversion alternates.
In return, short GB routes like Nantes and Montpellier will move to BA in return. BA can also use 737-500s on these routes to grow flight frequency and maintain year-round service which is not viable with the A320.
One set of LHR slots to be sold to BA. Double-daily Malaga and single Casablanca to be maintained, the daily LHR/Faro will disappear and be replaced with an extra frequency ex LGW.
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LGW your gonna be Baconed!! somebody said that as they are recruiting then it cant possibly happen WELL Bacon are STILL recruiting now! so please dont take recruitment as a sign that alls well.
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what trash
BACon aren't recruiting the new BA Cityfler is for LCY base which is not part of the FlyBE deal as for everyone else who posts with such authority where do you get it from??? BA are putting Airbuses back at LGW why would they do this if going to shorter routes and moving longer routes to GB and their airbuses - makes no sense.
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OH yea the NSP!!!! everyone will stand behind that and say were untouchable!! wake up!! Willy can get around that easly enough you watch. Remember he has effectivly got rid of 1900 workers in the regions and not even a ripple of bad press has come from it so LGW is not going to give him to many sleepless nights.
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correct marlowe.......... N S....P! which means as we are holding a british airweays pls contract will have to be offered other options like they did to LGW WW crew... but then again nothing like that...I am wondering people like you marlowe will u be around on the 1st of march to talk the same non sense....no offence matey but this is non sense
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newbagr are you new to BA? cos you are sounding a little naive all BA have to do is set up a new company name ,they have hundreds at company house then you offer new terms and conditions make you redundant and recruit again as its a new company, its a new job ,so then your currant job is effectively redundant then they can employ who they like just ask the EDI BACON crews how it works.
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no offence...but what is your problem??? to start with how can u know that something like that? all u can do is some wishful thinking? Why u passionate about LGW closing down or becoming a franchise??? if that was the case then there would be an announcement at LGW SF too on the 1st of March....with new routes coming up for SH and LH its highly unlikely or even impossible that something will happen!
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Newbagr i have nothing against LGW but what you have to realise is that under Willy change is happening in BA and in aviation generally, you can quote me the magic NPS all day long but at the end of the day he can get around it if he wishes. Sure it will be a little messy and people will be outraged but it can be done . clutching to the NSP shield and saying it wont happen is a little like an ostrich burying its head in the sand .Willies already seen off BASSA, and would LHR back up LGW? and theres no support from the regions because Willies dealt with them already .
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He might have a rather greater challenge if he tries to break the BA pilots' Scope agreement. He certainly didn't see BALPA off in the last lot of negotiations. They ran rings around him, and they won't stand for the loss of 300 positions/150 commands at a time of career stagnation.
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Marlowe
1900 was the number of BACON staff only. It did not include all the ramp staff/dispatchers/checkin staff & meeters and greeters at BHX, MAN, GLA, EDI, ABZ and the rest who are all on MAINLINE contracts. But it will be ok because of the NSP!!!! I agree with the rest of your post.
BACON are recruiting at present for the E145 at all bases because of the number of leavers who, up until now, did not believe it could happen to them.
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Willie will share transfer you to GB - leaving no requirement to change your terms and conditions - for a while, as is the definition of having been BACONED. You let him away with trying it out up north on those less worthy and now he is going to do you!
1900 was the number of BACON staff only. It did not include all the ramp staff/dispatchers/checkin staff & meeters and greeters at BHX, MAN, GLA, EDI, ABZ and the rest who are all on MAINLINE contracts. But it will be ok because of the NSP!!!! I agree with the rest of your post.
BACON are recruiting at present for the E145 at all bases because of the number of leavers who, up until now, did not believe it could happen to them.
Newbagr
Willie will share transfer you to GB - leaving no requirement to change your terms and conditions - for a while, as is the definition of having been BACONED. You let him away with trying it out up north on those less worthy and now he is going to do you!
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whatever
"MATT101 BACON were recruiting for BHX, course is just coming online now so get facts correct ."
BACon WERE recruiting for BHX you answered that question yourself and they WERE doing that a while ago now. BACon are no longer recruiting as you tried to point out earlier, BA Cityflyer are.
BACon WERE recruiting for BHX you answered that question yourself and they WERE doing that a while ago now. BACon are no longer recruiting as you tried to point out earlier, BA Cityflyer are.
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guys i am sure WW is pretty tough and will not tolerate any part of the company not making profit...but SFGatwick just started.....and joined the NSP ..ok the NSP is maybe nothing but surely we cant be receiving emails about how successful the fleet is at the moment and then closing us! And an other thing is that before you were talking about what would be announced on the 1st of march and now you are talking about what Willie could do in the future!