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cloudscape I'm happy that my facts are more accurate that the rosy picture you paint. Let's take one example:
This will come as news to many. Would you be good enough to tell us what specific category of new pilot you are referring to, what it is that they are paid and what kind of commitment to payment appears in the contract for the period from the start to the end of their first couple of years employment?
As it says in the document which the grim repa refers to above, there are always exceptions that permit broad claims to be made which cover up the reality experienced for most Ryanair pilots. It's not that exceptions don't take place, but clearly you have not been around Ryanair for long if you make such a broad claim.
How does the following sound to you "gee I'm sorry we no longer have any positions for full time employees, so you are going to become a contractor - we'll try to get you a position when a vacancy comes up" - "But I was told I would be a full time employee!" - "Gee, sorry that's the way it is".
OR "I know that is what is says in your contract, but your sector pay is now at this reduced rate .... ".
Ever heard of conversations like that cloudscape?
Also new pilots are paid from the first day of training
As it says in the document which the grim repa refers to above, there are always exceptions that permit broad claims to be made which cover up the reality experienced for most Ryanair pilots. It's not that exceptions don't take place, but clearly you have not been around Ryanair for long if you make such a broad claim.
How does the following sound to you "gee I'm sorry we no longer have any positions for full time employees, so you are going to become a contractor - we'll try to get you a position when a vacancy comes up" - "But I was told I would be a full time employee!" - "Gee, sorry that's the way it is".
OR "I know that is what is says in your contract, but your sector pay is now at this reduced rate .... ".
Ever heard of conversations like that cloudscape?
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Thanks for your advice guys, Ryanair is pretty low on my list of airlines I wish to work for, mainly due to points raised in this and many other threads!
I have a friend whom is working for Ryanair (recently employed), and yes he really has been messed around with long delays for base training etc.....
I'm happy working for Flybe, but my motives for change are lifestyle, as I live in Manchester and working from BHX is taking its toll!(family and financially).
So, I really do need to carefully consider every offer, and at this moment in time I'm pretty relucatant to pay vast amounts of cash (which I don't have) for a rating that may be on a temp contract!!!! I'm thinking maybe I will give Ryanair a wide birth after all............
Thanks for your advice
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I have a friend whom is working for Ryanair (recently employed), and yes he really has been messed around with long delays for base training etc.....
I'm happy working for Flybe, but my motives for change are lifestyle, as I live in Manchester and working from BHX is taking its toll!(family and financially).
So, I really do need to carefully consider every offer, and at this moment in time I'm pretty relucatant to pay vast amounts of cash (which I don't have) for a rating that may be on a temp contract!!!! I'm thinking maybe I will give Ryanair a wide birth after all............
Thanks for your advice
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another Ryanair question
Hi everybody!
A friend of mine is thinking of applying for Ryanair after she has been told by some friend how great it is there.
She was told by that guy that he gets 4800 € per month after taxes, is working 5 on 3 off and is based in Frankfurt/Hahn. She was also told that RYR is looking for Pilots with base in Hahn and that this would not be on a contract.
She is type rated for the B737 family and has ca 2800h on type so she wouldn´t have to get a rating.
Can anybody tell me if this sound correct? And does anybody know anything about social security and things like that?
Thanks a lot for all your help!
A friend of mine is thinking of applying for Ryanair after she has been told by some friend how great it is there.
She was told by that guy that he gets 4800 € per month after taxes, is working 5 on 3 off and is based in Frankfurt/Hahn. She was also told that RYR is looking for Pilots with base in Hahn and that this would not be on a contract.
She is type rated for the B737 family and has ca 2800h on type so she wouldn´t have to get a rating.
Can anybody tell me if this sound correct? And does anybody know anything about social security and things like that?
Thanks a lot for all your help!
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sundanser before she does.tell her to look up and read a document called "guide for prospective ryanair pilots" here on pprune.will give all the latest info on what to expect.
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Hi everybody!
Thanks for all the answers!
The reason she is looking for another job is that ours is paid way lower than FR and we don´t get the bases that we want. (among many other things
like stable off days etc)
While I´m sort of OK with this job I can perfectly understand others looking for better ways to get some money.
even though I´m not sure about THIS way 
and I just wanted to some more info on it.
So thanks for the infos and many happy landings!!
P.S. @grim repa
could u send me a link to this guide? Can´t find it....
Thanks for all the answers!
The reason she is looking for another job is that ours is paid way lower than FR and we don´t get the bases that we want. (among many other things
like stable off days etc)While I´m sort of OK with this job I can perfectly understand others looking for better ways to get some money.
even though I´m not sure about THIS way and I just wanted to some more info on it.So thanks for the infos and many happy landings!!
P.S. @grim repa
could u send me a link to this guide? Can´t find it....
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'No way to tell if they will offer a brookfield or ryanair contract , get it in writing befor you start'
Yes get it in writing.
They still won't honour it but at least you can look at it.
Yes get it in writing.
They still won't honour it but at least you can look at it.
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Ryanair recruiting Varig/Brazilian Pilots?
Has anyone heard that Ryanair are somehow hoovering up scores of Varig pilots via Brookfields Aviation.
How are they making them compliant with JAA? Surely most will be based in the UK and be under CAA juristiction?
How are they making them compliant with JAA? Surely most will be based in the UK and be under CAA juristiction?
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The rumor was 200+ pilots but that number is quite optimistic at best to say the least. A former Varig captain that flew at Ryanair for 2 months went returned to South America to fly with TAM. That is the airline to which the bulk of the former Varig pilots are flocking to. Some are going to another South American carrier... I beleive it's called GOL.
The ones that do come over will probably work under an IAA validation certificate which will be obtained through normal means.
The ones that do come over will probably work under an IAA validation certificate which will be obtained through normal means.
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Ryanair Deductions
I am asking in terms of a full-time Ryanair employed contract. Direct entry F/O with bonded rating.
I have gone through as much of the Ryanair stuff via the search function and I have indeed read the "guide to prospective pilots" but I have found little written about the deductions that Ryanair take for things like your uniform, parking, I.D etc..
Can someone please give an indication of what these monthly deductions come to? And what are they?
Also, with your OPC/LPC do you have to pay for flights to EMA and the hotel?
Also if there are any pilots from Girona bases reading this could you give an indication of take home pay for F/O after all the deductions etc..
Many thanks in advance...
I have gone through as much of the Ryanair stuff via the search function and I have indeed read the "guide to prospective pilots" but I have found little written about the deductions that Ryanair take for things like your uniform, parking, I.D etc..
Can someone please give an indication of what these monthly deductions come to? And what are they?
Also, with your OPC/LPC do you have to pay for flights to EMA and the hotel?
Also if there are any pilots from Girona bases reading this could you give an indication of take home pay for F/O after all the deductions etc..
Many thanks in advance...
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Ryanair assessment
Hi all,
Please, give yuor comments on this issue.I've recentely been invited to visit there asses.day at the East Mimlands airp. Any chance to get ajob if I'm:
A Georgian ATP holder,
over 4000 total,
F/O B737EFIS TR 650h on type.
Any kind of info appreciated.
Please, give yuor comments on this issue.I've recentely been invited to visit there asses.day at the East Mimlands airp. Any chance to get ajob if I'm:
A Georgian ATP holder,
over 4000 total,
F/O B737EFIS TR 650h on type.
Any kind of info appreciated.
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travnet,
I read your words about not giving up.... Maybe you could help me out with some information about European Jobs. I fly B767 in South America and i'm looking for an opportunity in Europe. I don't have JAA but i'm studying to get one. I already sent my application online to Ryanair and i got a negative answer. Is it normal for a 4000 hours heavy jet young Pilot to have such a hard time getting something in Europe?? Do you know anything about it..??? Should i try again or i really need some "networking" to help me out???
Thanks a lot!! Good luck for all!!!
Douguie
I read your words about not giving up.... Maybe you could help me out with some information about European Jobs. I fly B767 in South America and i'm looking for an opportunity in Europe. I don't have JAA but i'm studying to get one. I already sent my application online to Ryanair and i got a negative answer. Is it normal for a 4000 hours heavy jet young Pilot to have such a hard time getting something in Europe?? Do you know anything about it..??? Should i try again or i really need some "networking" to help me out???
Thanks a lot!! Good luck for all!!!
Douguie