bmi (industrial action vote)
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Originally Posted by alterego
The Ops Director at Baby is targeting F/Os with E-mails about the vote
stating that the comapny are taking a personal interst in their career's and that he knows who is the union and therefore has a ballot!
There are also several rumours (unconfirmed to me)that he has personally phoned ceratin F/Os and urged them to vote No.
stating that the comapny are taking a personal interst in their career's and that he knows who is the union and therefore has a ballot!
There are also several rumours (unconfirmed to me)that he has personally phoned ceratin F/Os and urged them to vote No.
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Strange, isn't it, that you never see an "Investing in People" logo anywhere in connection with bmi.....
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What Career 
,midland use to be a career airline but im sorry to say now it has become just a job and it seems to be the same in all three groups.
Sounds to me that they are pretty desperate to stup to those levels so early on.
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,midland use to be a career airline but im sorry to say now it has become just a job and it seems to be the same in all three groups.Sounds to me that they are pretty desperate to stup to those levels so early on.
rgds
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GB Airways have an ad in this week's Flight for F/Os which seems to be aimed at those with a "lack of development opportunities". Who do you think they might mean???
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GB Airways have an ad in this week's Flight for F/Os which seems to be aimed at those with a "lack of development opportunities". Who do you think they might mean???
Tough to be a new F/O at bmi at the moment though.
"Keep attacking "..... !!!!!!!!!
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bmi press statement
BALPA/bmibaby
release date: 16/08/2006
bmibaby has today been advised by BALPA (British Airline Pilots’ Association) that 90 of bmibaby’s 189 pilot workforce have voted in favour of strike action. This represents 47% of the total bmibaby pilot workforce.
Given that less than 50% of bmibaby’s pilots voted for a strike we welcome BALPA’s decision not to proceed with one. BALPA have requested a meeting with us to attempt to find a way through the dispute and we are reflecting on that proposal.
bmibaby’s offer of negotiations for a multi year pay deal for 2007 onwards remains on the table and we remain hopeful that any industrial action can be avoided.
Customers are advised to make no changes to their travel plans. bmibaby have contingency plans in place to deal with any operational disruption and will keep customers advised of current information via its website, www.bmibaby.com.
ends
Hardly a landslide majority !
Watch this space ....
Lets hope common sense prevails !
release date: 16/08/2006
bmibaby has today been advised by BALPA (British Airline Pilots’ Association) that 90 of bmibaby’s 189 pilot workforce have voted in favour of strike action. This represents 47% of the total bmibaby pilot workforce.
Given that less than 50% of bmibaby’s pilots voted for a strike we welcome BALPA’s decision not to proceed with one. BALPA have requested a meeting with us to attempt to find a way through the dispute and we are reflecting on that proposal.
bmibaby’s offer of negotiations for a multi year pay deal for 2007 onwards remains on the table and we remain hopeful that any industrial action can be avoided.
Customers are advised to make no changes to their travel plans. bmibaby have contingency plans in place to deal with any operational disruption and will keep customers advised of current information via its website, www.bmibaby.com.
ends
Hardly a landslide majority !
Watch this space ....
Lets hope common sense prevails !
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Sadly not much chance of that from either management or the militant 'minority'.
What is that thing about an irresistable force and an immovable object?
There's a Bay City Rollers song which springs to mind...
What is that thing about an irresistable force and an immovable object?
There's a Bay City Rollers song which springs to mind...
Surely if less than 50% of (the total) pilot workforce has voted to strike, it means that no stoppages will take place unless they are unofficial actions not sanctioned by BALPA, in which case the people who do withdraw their labour could find themselves in breach of contract and open to repercussions from the company
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Unless one has the guts to stand up to the likes of BMI management, our T&C's throughtout the industry will continue to be eroded.
Thankfully I do not work there, never cared for the meanminded mentality, however it is in everyones interest that the pilots at BMI get fairly treated to prevent the downward spiral that Ryanair has much to blame for.
This is not a time for sitting back on the fence and hoping the problem will go away.
The best way to avoid a strike is for all pilots to join their collegues in balpa and force management to take them seriously, rather than sitting back and undermining their efforts; whilst at the same time hoping to share in the rewards that their action may bing.
Sometimes you get the management you deserve! United you have a chance, divided you will fail.
It is about time that management learnt that pilots have had enougth of being asked to pay for their mistake of flooding the market with too much product which has been devalued by too low prices.
This madness of give away flights has got to stop. If the managements won't do it the TAX man will, and the customers will pay.
Stop subsidising them.
Thankfully I do not work there, never cared for the meanminded mentality, however it is in everyones interest that the pilots at BMI get fairly treated to prevent the downward spiral that Ryanair has much to blame for.
This is not a time for sitting back on the fence and hoping the problem will go away.
The best way to avoid a strike is for all pilots to join their collegues in balpa and force management to take them seriously, rather than sitting back and undermining their efforts; whilst at the same time hoping to share in the rewards that their action may bing.
Sometimes you get the management you deserve! United you have a chance, divided you will fail.
It is about time that management learnt that pilots have had enougth of being asked to pay for their mistake of flooding the market with too much product which has been devalued by too low prices.
This madness of give away flights has got to stop. If the managements won't do it the TAX man will, and the customers will pay.
Stop subsidising them.
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The tight idiots who haven't joined balpa have jeopardised any kind of progress in our terms and conditions. Those that have and voted no, will need their heads examined.
From here it's up to each individual to vote with their feet and get the hell out.
Those who have not joined up for the dispute are thankfully also about to suffer what this "management" are about to conjure up for the bleak future, except those that don't care in any case, since their plan is to leave anyway after 500 hours on type.
In any case the profession is now worse off as a whole, as a result of a number of gullible muppets!
From here it's up to each individual to vote with their feet and get the hell out.
Those who have not joined up for the dispute are thankfully also about to suffer what this "management" are about to conjure up for the bleak future, except those that don't care in any case, since their plan is to leave anyway after 500 hours on type.
In any case the profession is now worse off as a whole, as a result of a number of gullible muppets!
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BigRab,
Kind of makes your call to arms sound a little hollow then, doesn't it?
Fancy donating a day's pay to the wives and families of those who you so outspokenly support?
Thankfully I do not work there
Fancy donating a day's pay to the wives and families of those who you so outspokenly support?
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Thats a problem with a airlines like bmi baby, people don't join them for a career and only see them as a stepping stone. Thinking that they will only be there for three years at the most and then on to something bigger and better. I didn't realise that the % of balpa members was so low. Makes you think that if there was a strike the non balpa members would have kept the airline going for quite a while on a reduced schedule which could have turned into a disaster for thjose that did strike. Makes me think that balpa got it wrong and a strike ballot should never have been called. If you can't get at least 80-90% membership then your a bit Heather McCartney.
Gary Lager
I don't work for bmi either nor am I a balpa member but I would be more than happy to help a fellow colleague out in this type of situation, have done so in the past. Imagine if, we as an industry, could build up a fund to use in these situations, when friends and colleagues are being mistreated, would make the managements sit up and think a bit harder.
Thats a problem with a airlines like bmi baby, people don't join them for a career and only see them as a stepping stone. Thinking that they will only be there for three years at the most and then on to something bigger and better. I didn't realise that the % of balpa members was so low. Makes you think that if there was a strike the non balpa members would have kept the airline going for quite a while on a reduced schedule which could have turned into a disaster for thjose that did strike. Makes me think that balpa got it wrong and a strike ballot should never have been called. If you can't get at least 80-90% membership then your a bit Heather McCartney.
Gary Lager
I don't work for bmi either nor am I a balpa member but I would be more than happy to help a fellow colleague out in this type of situation, have done so in the past. Imagine if, we as an industry, could build up a fund to use in these situations, when friends and colleagues are being mistreated, would make the managements sit up and think a bit harder.
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BFF - That would indeed be a very noble and respectable thing to do, I would admire anyone who was able to consider the welfare of their colleagues across the industry, not just in their own company, in such a light.
My sarcastic response above was based on my understanding that Rab's post was trying to encourage individuals in another company to take part in industrial action ("this is not a time for sitting on the fence"), which is rather different than simply supporting those that choose to do so.
My sarcastic response above was based on my understanding that Rab's post was trying to encourage individuals in another company to take part in industrial action ("this is not a time for sitting on the fence"), which is rather different than simply supporting those that choose to do so.
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The whole truth, and nothing but the truth -- NOT
The company press release is misleading.
It gives the impression that there will not be any industrial action in 'baby' due to the fact that less than 50% of the TOTAL workforce have not voted for industrial action.
The simple fact is that 72% of BALPA members in 'baby' HAVE voted for industrial action. It is a majority vote within the membership that counts and NOT within total pilot body.
Make no mistakes BALPA NOW HAVE A MANDATE FOR STRIKE ACTION FOR BABY PILOTS.
BALPA have however stated to the company that there will be no strike called for on the bank holiday weekend - a goodwill gesture given the events of the last 7 to 10 days.
I suspect that they are waiting for the other two votes to be concluded before notifying management about any stoppages.
I am disgusted by the company’s blatant attempt at skewing the other two votes by misleading everyone into thinking that the 'baby' pilots have rolled over.
Well done to the 72% who voted YES, and I look forward to the same success with the other two groups.
It gives the impression that there will not be any industrial action in 'baby' due to the fact that less than 50% of the TOTAL workforce have not voted for industrial action.
The simple fact is that 72% of BALPA members in 'baby' HAVE voted for industrial action. It is a majority vote within the membership that counts and NOT within total pilot body.
Make no mistakes BALPA NOW HAVE A MANDATE FOR STRIKE ACTION FOR BABY PILOTS.
BALPA have however stated to the company that there will be no strike called for on the bank holiday weekend - a goodwill gesture given the events of the last 7 to 10 days.
I suspect that they are waiting for the other two votes to be concluded before notifying management about any stoppages.
I am disgusted by the company’s blatant attempt at skewing the other two votes by misleading everyone into thinking that the 'baby' pilots have rolled over.
Well done to the 72% who voted YES, and I look forward to the same success with the other two groups.