99% of easyjet pilots reject pay offer
I don't tend to comment on matters within EZY - however, I feel compelled to add to the debate over this pathetic offer.
This proposed (approved?) deal that the management have offered has been packaged in true EZY style (a little bit like the ill thought out annual leave bid process). At first glance it would appear to be a good deal, but like all the postings here and on the BALPA bulletin board, it is very evident that it is nowhere near. Once you begin to unravel the offer (why it has to be so different from our current scheme?) you soon come to the conclusion that this is nothing much more than our current level of earnings - give or take a few hundred pounds - but presented in a different way!
The level of BALPA membership at EZY is now at an unseen level. I sincerely hope that our excellent CC team are not de-motivated by the strong feeling from the members that this offer is not hitting the mark.
Finally, some colleagues have commented "that we are not destined to receive endless pay cuts", etc. Being the very nature of negotiation, this has lowered some people's thought's and expectations as to where our share in the success of the company lies. After all, we are all working for the same company and therefore should be open to receiving some of the rewards for making EZY a success and not just for the (fat-cat corporate greed) management who have the ability to reward themselves huge bonuses.
Thanks to the CC for there unrewarded hard work... but it's a NO from me!
This proposed (approved?) deal that the management have offered has been packaged in true EZY style (a little bit like the ill thought out annual leave bid process). At first glance it would appear to be a good deal, but like all the postings here and on the BALPA bulletin board, it is very evident that it is nowhere near. Once you begin to unravel the offer (why it has to be so different from our current scheme?) you soon come to the conclusion that this is nothing much more than our current level of earnings - give or take a few hundred pounds - but presented in a different way!
The level of BALPA membership at EZY is now at an unseen level. I sincerely hope that our excellent CC team are not de-motivated by the strong feeling from the members that this offer is not hitting the mark.
Finally, some colleagues have commented "that we are not destined to receive endless pay cuts", etc. Being the very nature of negotiation, this has lowered some people's thought's and expectations as to where our share in the success of the company lies. After all, we are all working for the same company and therefore should be open to receiving some of the rewards for making EZY a success and not just for the (fat-cat corporate greed) management who have the ability to reward themselves huge bonuses.
Thanks to the CC for there unrewarded hard work... but it's a NO from me!
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: 'An Airfield Somewhere in England'
Posts: 1,094
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
F & B - If you are a BALPA member you know a vigorous debate is raging on the BALPA forum. There is clearly significant dismay among members at what has happened and it is being addressed. In order to avoid any embarrassment to our CC I will not be posting further on this debate until we have a way forward. It is vital that we stick together here and I am reluctant to bring public disunity to this forum at such a time as this.
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: england
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The only way to stick together is to share information and to communicate: the only way the management can reduce our salaries, and rest assure that it is one of their target, is to divide the workforce and they will endeavour to achieve it;
for exemple the basic pay increase: have you notice the number of different pay increase? and the difference beetween Capt and F/o? On average, Captains get 19% gross basic pay increase, F/o 12% gross not included the Trss or Cadets: Why such a difference? is it fair?
And Soon, Milan base will see another pay scale for Pilots...
Personnaly speaking, I think your points of view, dear collegues, are of utmost importance and allow us to get a better idea of what we can expect in the next few months.
for exemple the basic pay increase: have you notice the number of different pay increase? and the difference beetween Capt and F/o? On average, Captains get 19% gross basic pay increase, F/o 12% gross not included the Trss or Cadets: Why such a difference? is it fair?
And Soon, Milan base will see another pay scale for Pilots...
Personnaly speaking, I think your points of view, dear collegues, are of utmost importance and allow us to get a better idea of what we can expect in the next few months.
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hangar 69
Posts: 508
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by bugle
The only way to stick together is to share information and to communicate: the only way the management can reduce our salaries, and rest assure that it is one of their target, is to divide the workforce and they will endeavour to achieve it;
Personnaly speaking, I think your points of view, dear collegues, are of utmost importance and allow us to get a better idea of what we can expect in the next few months.
Personnaly speaking, I think your points of view, dear collegues, are of utmost importance and allow us to get a better idea of what we can expect in the next few months.
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: england
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Doug the Head: You are a BALPA member bugle, aren´t you???
No I am a taxi driver and I feel lonely....just joking
Sorry but I checked the BALPA Members Area Forum and couldn't find any topics regarding easyjet; where is the " vigorous debate raging on the BALPA forum"? thanks for your help
No I am a taxi driver and I feel lonely....just joking
Sorry but I checked the BALPA Members Area Forum and couldn't find any topics regarding easyjet; where is the " vigorous debate raging on the BALPA forum"? thanks for your help
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: A25R
Posts: 171
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I note that the performance bonus targets are common to those applied to management. What they fail to mention however is that percentage bonus applicable to them is somewhat different. Up to 24% based on company performance plus up to a further 16% based on personal performance. That is up to 40% of salary as opposed to a maximum of 5% for a C5 captain. Yet another reason to reject this insulting 'deal'.
Ut Sementem Feeceris
Bugle - you're not serious are you?
There IS a very large thread/debate on the BALPA easyJet members area. Suggest you contact BALPA to enquire as to why you cannot see it - have you registered for the forums?
A4
There IS a very large thread/debate on the BALPA easyJet members area. Suggest you contact BALPA to enquire as to why you cannot see it - have you registered for the forums?
A4
Thread Starter
Bugle,
You must be looking at the wrong forum: you need to look at the "EASYJET BALPA MEMBERS FORUM" where there is a thread 26 pages long discussing the latest pay offer. I suspect that you are looking at the "BALPA MEMBERS FORUM".
The former is accessed via the link in a box labelled "Forum Discuss issues with other members", whereas the latter is accessed via the link "members forum" both of which appear on the page
(link removed due to possible security issues)
Hope this helps - not very well labelled are they?
You must be looking at the wrong forum: you need to look at the "EASYJET BALPA MEMBERS FORUM" where there is a thread 26 pages long discussing the latest pay offer. I suspect that you are looking at the "BALPA MEMBERS FORUM".
The former is accessed via the link in a box labelled "Forum Discuss issues with other members", whereas the latter is accessed via the link "members forum" both of which appear on the page
(link removed due to possible security issues)
Hope this helps - not very well labelled are they?
Last edited by 10002level; 19th Feb 2006 at 19:10.
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Scotland
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Anyone else having problems getting into the members area of the BALPA site?
When I put in my membernumber and password it won't let me enter....it was working fine this morning....
Perhaps an overload of postings about the rubbish payoffer?
When I put in my membernumber and password it won't let me enter....it was working fine this morning....
Perhaps an overload of postings about the rubbish payoffer?
Last edited by Bbow; 17th Feb 2006 at 23:20.
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I cannot get into the BALPA easy forum either. It was ok yesterday morning.
Have the management infiltrated the system to stop us talking about the situation away from the flightdeck?
Have the management infiltrated the system to stop us talking about the situation away from the flightdeck?
