Info on South African Airlines requested!
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Hi ya,
I just had an argument with a friend of mine over the selection policies at South African Airlines.
She pointed out that SAA was subject to Affirmative Action in their recruiting of new cadets. According to her, SAA not only encourage blacks to apply to their cadet programme, but even fancy Blacks over Caucasians since there is a black government in charge.
I can't really believe this, as I think only the performance of each applicant on the testing day is all that counts. In my opinion it is negligible whether someone is black or white when applying to SAA.
So what's the deal on her claim? Just can't believe these are the true procedures of SAA...
It'd be great if someone could enlighten my ignorance!
Cheers!
I just had an argument with a friend of mine over the selection policies at South African Airlines.
She pointed out that SAA was subject to Affirmative Action in their recruiting of new cadets. According to her, SAA not only encourage blacks to apply to their cadet programme, but even fancy Blacks over Caucasians since there is a black government in charge.
I can't really believe this, as I think only the performance of each applicant on the testing day is all that counts. In my opinion it is negligible whether someone is black or white when applying to SAA.
So what's the deal on her claim? Just can't believe these are the true procedures of SAA...
It'd be great if someone could enlighten my ignorance!
Cheers!
Last edited by stefair; 14th Mar 2005 at 23:25.
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You should really monitor the African Aviation thread.The policy throughout South Africa now is not quite as simple as Affirmative Action. The new policy is Black Empowerment. This roughly means that you cannot open or run a business of any sort unless you have, or take in, a black business partner. You do not need to be a rocket scientist to work out that, by extension, your friend is absolutely right and that she is going to get righter and righter. Applicants whose performance might not be up to scratch on testing day are, as I understand it, to be sent to Botswana for retesting. In the old days these sort of policies would have been called rascist.
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think only the performance of each applicant on the testing day is all that counts
The real truth is that the way things are done in SA are just incomparable to how we do things. Mainly, this is because they are done in these ways for reasons of a historical/political nature the likes of which will most likely never be found in the North-Western world.
It's a truly wonderful place in many respects but this approach to recruitment is widespread in all fields in Southern Africa. Cavorting Cheetah hits the nail on the head. Don't be appalled - if you look hard enough there's a funny side
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You should really monitor the African Aviation thread.
Sorry, still not that familiar with pprune!
Just can't believe she was right about her claim. This is -- let's say it friendly -- insaint!!
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Stefair: I can see that it seems strange but turn it around ... The way that things are done in the UK is based on our cumulative history. Invasions by Romans and Vikings and resistance of invasions etc.
The Japanese way of doing things is based on their history and culture. The French way of doings things is ... the French way of doing things. [shrugs shoulders]
The present South African way of doing things is based on:[list=a][*]10 years of majority rule[*]50 years of white minority rule under apartheid[*]Various years of occupation by the British (white minority rule)[*]Various years of occupation by the Dutch (white etc.)[*]All going back to 1652 when the white man arrived[*]Black heritage from time immemorial[*]The African way of living[/list=a] Put all that together and it does make sense. Incidentally, in the early years of the New South Africa. SAA cadets were sent to Australia for training by Qantas. This meant that if they were told 'You are not good enough' it would not be a white Afrikaans speaking male that said the words.
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The Japanese way of doing things is based on their history and culture. The French way of doings things is ... the French way of doing things. [shrugs shoulders]
The present South African way of doing things is based on:[list=a][*]10 years of majority rule[*]50 years of white minority rule under apartheid[*]Various years of occupation by the British (white minority rule)[*]Various years of occupation by the Dutch (white etc.)[*]All going back to 1652 when the white man arrived[*]Black heritage from time immemorial[*]The African way of living[/list=a] Put all that together and it does make sense. Incidentally, in the early years of the New South Africa. SAA cadets were sent to Australia for training by Qantas. This meant that if they were told 'You are not good enough' it would not be a white Afrikaans speaking male that said the words.
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I remember that Australian connection PAXboy.Now the SAAF are getting Zombie instructors down to do training at Langebaan. If you flunk with them you will be sent to Botswana for further evaluation. Very soon now the SAAF will be a threat only to itself. These are the future skippers in SAA.
African thread: Just trawl down past Fragrant Harbour until you arrive at destination.
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cav cheetah: Sounds like old style school punishment, If you don't eat all your broccoli, you will be sent to Botswana! 
I wonder ... if they then fail in Bots, do they get shipped down the line of African countries until they reach Zim?
Tsk, Tsk, I really should control myself.
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I wonder ... if they then fail in Bots, do they get shipped down the line of African countries until they reach Zim?
Tsk, Tsk, I really should control myself.
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PAXboy. Not at all. Now that TB is ending PB down to ZA as HC and relations are much improved between the two countries, the hot rumour is that any broccoli resistant Botswana detention failures will be sent up to BA on secondment as trainee pilots on that airline's Jumbos for two years before returning to ZA as direct entry Senior First Officers. They should start to filter through to the UK in about eighteen months. That should be mildly amusing.
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Cheetah: Yiiiislaaik!!! I can't begin to imagine how totally chuffed we all will be. 
Let's hope that the Botswanian diet works or that they find alternative employment in Maun driving tourists around on those boats with the big prop at the back. Hey, just tell them that it's advanced ground training.
Let's hope that the Botswanian diet works or that they find alternative employment in Maun driving tourists around on those boats with the big prop at the back. Hey, just tell them that it's advanced ground training.
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Yebo Gogo!I fell about at that one. High speed taxiing, What! Perhaps some of them might fall further backwards into the engines thereby varying the diet of the local saurine population. Mince today Boyo! Let the old and toothless through first! Actually, I think that plan three, is it now, be goorah, is to send them to Belfast for further training, thereby doing the usual and rasing standards all around.
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Cheetah, you do realise, of course, that we are being monitored by the ANC version of BOSS (had to put it in bold to make it look more menacing) and we may well be subject to unlimited house arrest, without knowing what we are accused of, just like in the good old days?
It's lucky we live in the FREE and FAIR and DEMOCRATIC West. Well, that's my OBE gone. 
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It's lucky we live in the FREE and FAIR and DEMOCRATIC West.
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Yes but perhaps I am an OAP and will get £200 off my heating bill, which, with a mansion as large as mine will just about warm the serving girl's drawers on a winter night.. Off to warmer climes on the strength of that. I have been a Peer for so long I can't even remember what I sold my last OBE for anyway. Toodle Pip.
