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Old 28th Sep 2005, 08:40
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If you apply with a B757 rating and successful at interview, are you most likely destined for the 744 or is there a chance of getting onto the Airbus?
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Old 28th Sep 2005, 12:39
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You could go to either type, but it will not be your choice.
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Old 28th Sep 2005, 21:13
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Interviewing has resumed at the rate of three or four days a month at the moment, but we are now looking at courses well into 2006. The hold pool is being kept pretty full, though courses are pulling people out of it at a healthy rate. The delays are, from your point of view, frustrating, I know, but that's the way the company wants to run it.
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Old 14th Dec 2005, 15:53
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It's the same salary irrespective of your previous type. VS do not charge you for a rating by paying a reduced salary to cover the cost.
The main difference would be the bond i assume, however i'm not sure about that either. I joined as an A330 pilot and just did a short CCQ course but was still bonded for the full amount. Not a problem if you're not planning to leave in the first three years of course.
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Old 14th Dec 2005, 19:11
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There is no difference, either in bond or pay.
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Old 14th Dec 2005, 20:20
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Hi there Scroggs, 8000 hrs total, 5000hrs jet over 40 tons, no bus time though. Been updating CV for the last 3 years every few months this time around and still no whisper of an interview.

Should I send Janine some flowers?
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Old 30th Dec 2005, 22:23
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Try a box of Chockies, being the festive season and all that.
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A box of choccies may work, who knows?! As for individual circumstances, I can't say why one individual is selected for interview and not another. All I would say is look very critically at your CV - and get someone else to do it too. If it's not crystal clear, limited to a single page, and has your experience and contact details clearly decipherable, you won't stand a chance!

This only applies to those who applied using a CV and are keeping it up to date (only once a year please, unless there are very significant changes!). All new applicants must apply online.

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Old 13th Jan 2006, 10:28
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Re: Virgin Questions

Hi whats th take home pay these days for a year 1 FO. Looked back to 2004 and found a figure of £2500 but this must have gone up by now?
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Old 13th Jan 2006, 20:48
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Re: Virgin Questions

After paying 7% into pension, around £3000 give or take.
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Old 13th Jan 2006, 20:56
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Re: Virgin Questions

The current starting pay for a Virgin FO is £54,869 including profit-related pay for the contracted 750 hours per year. This entire amount is pensionable. What you take home depends on your personal tax situation and the extent of your pension contributions.
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Old 14th Jan 2006, 07:41
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Re: Virgin Questions

F/O basic salary is 44,624. Basic plus variable equates to 54,869. Variable rate is 13.66 per hour, so if you do the full contracted 750 hrs then you will achieve the figure of 54,869. Would imagine this would be achieved plus or minus 50 hrs.
Captains basic salary is 74,291. 750 hrs multiplied by the variable rate of 21.00 per hour equates to a basic plus variable of 90,041.
Captains have 14 increments and F/o's have 16. A bit more info than you asked for but sure others are interested. Rgds.
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Old 14th Jan 2006, 10:39
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Re: Virgin Questions

Those figures are entirely up to date as of 6 January 06. Virgin does not pay 'per diem' rates, but pays subsistence allowances at rates appropriate to each destination. The profit-related element of pay has protections built in to ensure that you will receive the full amount even if the company has not rostered you the full 750 hours yet you were available. You cannot exceed your contracted hours (with a little flex) without your agreement, and there are contingency (overtime) pay arrangements for that circumstance.

Command pay rates are irrelevant to this forum as Virgin Atlantic do not employ direct-entry captains. Therefore the earliest such rates would be relevant to readers here is 7 to 9 years from now, assuming current time to command continues (this has been discussed on other threads).
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Old 15th Jan 2006, 17:39
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Re: Virgin Questions

How silly of me, thanks for pointing that out scroggs. Rgds.
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Old 16th Jan 2006, 11:05
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Re: Virgin Questions

Scroggs,

Of course Captain's pay is relevant to this forum - it gives anyone considering joining Virgin AN IDEA of how much extra they will be earning as a Captain in 9 years. Most guys I know check out the Captain's payscale when looking at a prospective new employer - (nearly) everyone wants to get in to the LHS eventually right?

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Old 16th Jan 2006, 21:59
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Thanks for some excellent, informative posts here guys. I start with Virgin on 13th March and frankly can't wait !
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 08:14
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Getting an interview with Virgin?

Does anyone out there have any infomation about getting an interview with Virgin (in Australia)? I've heard you have to know a few captains to even get a look in, is that true?
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Old 18th Jan 2006, 10:05
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Originally Posted by Khaosai
How silly of me, thanks for pointing that out scroggs. Rgds.
Sorry, wasn't meant to be a put-down!

Originally Posted by WTB
Scroggs,
Of course Captain's pay is relevant to this forum - it gives anyone considering joining Virgin AN IDEA of how much extra they will be earning as a Captain in 9 years. Most guys I know check out the Captain's payscale when looking at a prospective new employer - (nearly) everyone wants to get in to the LHS eventually right?
Cheers
Yes, true enough. I was a bit hasty in saying that the command payscale is irrelevant. I was really trying to make the point that they are a bit meaningless as command is a (relatively) long way away for any new joiner - and a lot can happen in the intervening years. In any case, you can make a reasonable judgement of the airline's pay rates from knowing the starting pay, and whatever extras and increments there are. Command pay is rarely less than 40-50% greater than FO's pay in the majority of airlines, and Virgin is no different.
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Old 18th Jan 2006, 10:26
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do not employ direct-entry captains.
Although I have just in fact applied for a Direct Entry Command with Virgin -

Virgin Galactic that is
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Old 21st Jan 2006, 11:39
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Virgin Atlantic infos

Good day to all of you,

does anybody have an idea of where I can find infos concerning Virgin Atlantic recruitment process?

It seems like they have flight deck vacancies...

many thxs

Regards,
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