An incredible Maneuver
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An incredible Maneuver
Researching old accident reports for an article on airmanship, I chanced on this Boeing 737-200 accident in India some 25 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Air_Flight_7412.
Following an unstable approach to land because the aircraft was too high on short final, the PiC acting as PM in the right seat, orderd the PF in the left seat to make a 360 degree turn to lose height with 40 degrees of flap. With the nose high at 15 degrees body angle during the turn, the 737 stalled and crashed into a built up area with no survivors. The accident report makes startling reading
It is difficult to believe any pilot in his right mind would attempt to carry out such a dangerous manoevre instead of simply going around straight ahead.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Air_Flight_7412.
Following an unstable approach to land because the aircraft was too high on short final, the PiC acting as PM in the right seat, orderd the PF in the left seat to make a 360 degree turn to lose height with 40 degrees of flap. With the nose high at 15 degrees body angle during the turn, the 737 stalled and crashed into a built up area with no survivors. The accident report makes startling reading
It is difficult to believe any pilot in his right mind would attempt to carry out such a dangerous manoevre instead of simply going around straight ahead.
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It is difficult to believe any pilot in his right mind would attempt to carry out such a dangerous manoeuvre instead of simply going around straight ahead.
How many fatal turn backs do we read about and now see on YouTube each year, yet there were posters printed in WW1 "Never Turn Back"
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From: https://youtube.com/watch?v=P8pihdksUHk&si=t_GX3ubmBvZ2CDgB
What needs to be installed, from very early in a pilot's training is this.
It is the vertical deceleration that kills.
If one, contacts the ground, under control, meaning not stalled one has a great chance of survival.
It is the vertical deceleration that kills.
If one, contacts the ground, under control, meaning not stalled one has a great chance of survival.
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since your training is it in stil?
gradually but firmly
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From: https://youtube.com/watch?v=P8pihdksUHk&si=t_GX3ubmBvZ2CDgB
That info should be installed in one's brain. Only if there is a brain installed.
Please dont try and play word games with me.
Best if you leave this topic to the grownups.
Please dont try and play word games with me.
Best if you leave this topic to the grownups.
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Here is someone doing that type of go-round 'properly'.
As I can't post links its Youtube video code BCWbjsynDZ0 - first result
Of course at Mogadishu you really really do not want to do a standard missed approach lest you get shot at
As I can't post links its Youtube video code BCWbjsynDZ0 - first result
Of course at Mogadishu you really really do not want to do a standard missed approach lest you get shot at
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Researching old accident reports for an article on airmanship, I chanced on this Boeing 737-200 accident in India some 25 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Air_Flight_7412.
Following an unstable approach to land because the aircraft was too high on short final, the PiC acting as PM in the right seat, orderd the PF in the left seat to make a 360 degree turn to lose height with 40 degrees of flap. With the nose high at 15 degrees body angle during the turn, the 737 stalled and crashed into a built up area with no survivors. The accident report makes startling reading
It is difficult to believe any pilot in his right mind would attempt to carry out such a dangerous manoevre instead of simply going around straight ahead.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Air_Flight_7412.
Following an unstable approach to land because the aircraft was too high on short final, the PiC acting as PM in the right seat, orderd the PF in the left seat to make a 360 degree turn to lose height with 40 degrees of flap. With the nose high at 15 degrees body angle during the turn, the 737 stalled and crashed into a built up area with no survivors. The accident report makes startling reading
It is difficult to believe any pilot in his right mind would attempt to carry out such a dangerous manoevre instead of simply going around straight ahead.
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An equally incredible manoeuvre. Gulf Air GF072 in 2000.
https://skybrary.aero/sites/default/...shelf/1020.pdf
https://skybrary.aero/sites/default/...shelf/1020.pdf
Last edited by Chronic Snoozer; 26th November 2025 at 01:36.
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Regarding the 727 orbit at 100’, I think this has been the subject of a previous discussion; there’s quite o lot of evidence that it was preplanned, not least the fact that it was filmed from three different viewpoints - still quite cool though, if you like that sort of thing.
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Regarding the 727 orbit at 100’, I think this has been the subject of a previous discussion; there’s quite o lot of evidence that it was preplanned, not least the fact that it was filmed from three different viewpoints - still quite cool though, if you like that sort of thing.
