Airbus reporting CI
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320CEO/NEO.
I think leaving it in managed works okay & is safe....buuuut any pilot who is actively monitoring their aircraft can see that the 320/321 when heavy climbs with the AP on in a relatively poor manner above FL300. Which can be done better by a competent pilot actively flying the aircraft through the use of other modes. Note competent and actively flying.
On the other hand leaving it in managed and porpoise-ing up to cruise gets you there eventually too.
Anywho - epic thread drift!
I think leaving it in managed works okay & is safe....buuuut any pilot who is actively monitoring their aircraft can see that the 320/321 when heavy climbs with the AP on in a relatively poor manner above FL300. Which can be done better by a competent pilot actively flying the aircraft through the use of other modes. Note competent and actively flying.
On the other hand leaving it in managed and porpoise-ing up to cruise gets you there eventually too.
Anywho - epic thread drift!
Flying in to KIAD I would regularly get vector to intercept the loc 25 miles out at 4000’. Never had localizer signal until 20miles out. Absolutely an ATC problem, but easily solved by pushing nav instead of loc.
Older aircraft were not as sophisticated and maybe needed constant fiddling, but Airbus FBW will climb as efficiently as possible - according to the CI - in CLB with A/THR engaged, and the correct winds entered. Anything else will use more fuel.
Yes, the climb rate will sometimes reduce to a few hundred feet per minute and then gradually recover, but it is working as designed and as efficiently as possible*. In 14 years‘ of flying Airbus FBW, I have only once had ATC query our slow ROC close to cruising altitude.
Soft altitude mode allows the cruise alt to vary +/- 50’ to control small mach variations without changing engine thrust, but soft alt is cancelled by pulling selected speed. Soft alt mode saves fuel and improves passenger comfort. Since changing the CI keeps soft alt mode and adjusts the climb and descent phases as well as the cruise - thereby taking away all the guesswork - I don’t know why some companies forbid it.
*Our Airbus FBW 321’s used about 4 tonnes less fuel to get to Tenerife than our 757’s - different passenger loads, but not that much difference.
Yes, the climb rate will sometimes reduce to a few hundred feet per minute and then gradually recover, but it is working as designed and as efficiently as possible*. In 14 years‘ of flying Airbus FBW, I have only once had ATC query our slow ROC close to cruising altitude.
Soft altitude mode allows the cruise alt to vary +/- 50’ to control small mach variations without changing engine thrust, but soft alt is cancelled by pulling selected speed. Soft alt mode saves fuel and improves passenger comfort. Since changing the CI keeps soft alt mode and adjusts the climb and descent phases as well as the cruise - thereby taking away all the guesswork - I don’t know why some companies forbid it.
*Our Airbus FBW 321’s used about 4 tonnes less fuel to get to Tenerife than our 757’s - different passenger loads, but not that much difference.
Last edited by Uplinker; 6th Aug 2019 at 04:25.
