737 VAPP?
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737 VAPP?
Afternoon,
Have just seen THIS video of a 737 on final approach...
At 5:29 the speed briefly tops out at 183KIAS and the flap load relief activates. Are there any technical inspections required after such an event?
Have just seen THIS video of a 737 on final approach...
At 5:29 the speed briefly tops out at 183KIAS and the flap load relief activates. Are there any technical inspections required after such an event?
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The flap limit is 175 for Flap 30, the kind of speed a lot of the approach seemed to be flown at, rather than a speed between Vref and the bugged Vfly, and yes tech log entry required for busting the flap limit speed.
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Surprised no one's commented on the "50" call coming way before threshold crossing, seems low assuming a standard 3.0 degree path and 1000 ft aiming point were the references.
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Looking at the airspeed bug on the PFD they already appear to have applied a wind additive (VREF 141, MCP SPD 155). Why would you add another 15 to that and fly the majority of the approach at 30, sometimes 40 KIAS above Vref?
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Boeing is pretty clear on this, at least in our manuals. Vapp should be set up to but not exceeding Vref+20, dependant on conditions. For a flap 30 approach this may well bring you within 10 knots of the flap limit speed during fluctuations, but you shouldn't be living there.
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Seeing this video frightens me to see what other airline operators can be like.
For one I do not think the approach should've been continued considering the guy is flying completely out of his comfort zone, flying WELL ABOVE Vref+20, the maximum stipulated by Boeing throughout the flight.
The high N1% certainly is partly to blame, let alone his yoke handling being way excessive...
Glad to see the aircraft is not a major low cost operator employing many (lower) experienced captains in the EU industry...
For one I do not think the approach should've been continued considering the guy is flying completely out of his comfort zone, flying WELL ABOVE Vref+20, the maximum stipulated by Boeing throughout the flight.
The high N1% certainly is partly to blame, let alone his yoke handling being way excessive...
Glad to see the aircraft is not a major low cost operator employing many (lower) experienced captains in the EU industry...
All I can suggest is stay out of other people's flightdecks. How would you like someone criticising your approach.
We don't have the full picture as to what is going on!
For example, the previous landing aircraft may have reported a large undershoot shear!
Who knows. I'm just uncomfortable with the finger pointing without knowing the facts and actually being there.
We don't have the full picture as to what is going on!
For example, the previous landing aircraft may have reported a large undershoot shear!
Who knows. I'm just uncomfortable with the finger pointing without knowing the facts and actually being there.
To be fair the person who's ego felt the need to make the video available online invited us in to the flight deck to be judged and or criticised. If he didn't want criticism of his flight he should have kept the video private.