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horatio_b 13th May 2020 13:28

The picture could have come from the Amazon website

Don't think a link would be allowed but if you google "Amazon.com Essentials Men's Regular-fit Short-Sleeve Print Shirt" there is a review by Wil Engle using the same photo

Harry Wayfarers 13th May 2020 13:45


Originally Posted by horatio_b (Post 10781419)
The picture could have come from the Amazon website

Don't think a link would be allowed but if you google "Amazon.com Essentials Men's Regular-fit Short-Sleeve Print Shirt" there is a review by Wil Engle using the same photo

LOL ... The CEO of a Exec Jet operation with such security sensitive clientele that his state-of-the-art aircraft do not register on FR24 ... Leaving T-shirt reviews on Amazon!

Next we'll have Sir Richard Branson leaving reviews on ebay :)

Airbubba 14th May 2020 00:38


Originally Posted by horatio_b (Post 10781419)
The picture could have come from the Amazon website

Don't think a link would be allowed but if you google "Amazon.com Essentials Men's Regular-fit Short-Sleeve Print Shirt" there is a review by Wil Engle using the same photo

Looks like him (or his imposter ;)):

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b8b7ec957e.jpg


Originally Posted by B737900er (Post 10780625)
Hes on a forum chatting away giving war stories. Stories that I think are exaggerated or just not true. Im not the only one to pass comment on it.

Sounds like one of them Navy guys to me. Exaggerated his credentials to claim he was in the Air Force. Those guys will never be accepted by polite society. :)


Originally Posted by Stu666 (Post 10781198)
Just a thought - but whilst it's true FR24 do block many flights at the owner's request, there are other smaller websites that track ADSB/MLAT data and the aircraft will likely be visible on these. 360Radar would be one such example, although I'm not sure how comprehensive their coverage of the US is. The next time this guy claims to be airborne, but invisible to FR24, check the other tracking sites.

https://www.adsbexchange.com/ has good unblocked coverage of the Lower 48, worth a check next time he says he has a plane in the air.


Originally Posted by Harry Wayfarers (Post 10781435)
LOL ... The CEO of a Exec Jet operation with such security sensitive clientele that his state-of-the-art aircraft do not register on FR24 ... Leaving T-shirt reviews on Amazon!

Many U.S. bizjets really are blocked on FR24 as Stu666 observes above. Several plane trackers do not show the identities of aircraft on the FAA's ASDI block list.

More thoughts about this guy on another recent thread:

https://www.pprune.org/where-they-no...erk-engle.html


Airbubba 14th May 2020 01:19

Some more online hits.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b65705a833.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....38610a18f6.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bf2b03850c.jpg

B737900er 14th May 2020 01:57

Wow, this has got interesting.

You guys are internet wizards.

L1649 14th May 2020 16:13

Same hat and shirt in that new picture!

DaveReidUK 14th May 2020 17:46


Originally Posted by L1649 (Post 10782553)
Same hat and shirt in that new picture!

But it needs ironing now. :O

Jimbo2Papa 15th May 2020 07:56

And in a wheel chair...

Auxtank 15th May 2020 08:20

He's forgetting he's an Air Force Flight Surgeon too...

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5e5d8a6638.jpg



B737900er 15th May 2020 08:36

Yet, his licenses dont appear on the FAA database. He could only have an EASA license but god knows how he managed to fly in the states on one.

Harry Wayfarers 15th May 2020 10:25


Originally Posted by B737900er (Post 10783149)
Yet, his licenses dont appear on the FAA database. He could only have an EASA license but god knows how he managed to fly in the states on one.

But he stated that he had a CPL and, I stand to be corrected, JAA/EASA hasn't been issuing CPL's for maybe the past 20 years, it's only an ATPL or a (frozen) ATPL

Auxtank 15th May 2020 14:17

Both those pics of him look like he's in a wheelchair...
So unless he's got a heavily modified G650...

B737900er 15th May 2020 17:03


Originally Posted by Harry Wayfarers (Post 10783247)
But he stated that he had a CPL and, I stand to be corrected, JAA/EASA hasn't been issuing CPL's for maybe the past 20 years, it's only an ATPL or a (frozen) ATPL

There is no such thing as frozen ATPL its just a nick name.

You are issued a CPL license from EASA but you will have the ATPL exams already complete ready the issuance of an ATPL.

B737900er 15th May 2020 17:05


Originally Posted by Auxtank (Post 10783413)
Both those pics of him look like he's in a wheelchair...
So unless he's got a heavily modified G650...

The guy apparently has a waiver from The FAA and EASA to have a Class 3 medical.

Hes on Chemotherapy!! However, if I take medication for Gout, I get my medical suspended.

Harry Wayfarers 15th May 2020 23:37

This scenario becomes even more unbelievable, or should that be amusing.

He claims to have joined the Air Force back in Netherlands, points there being that he can't even get the name (The Netherlands) of his supposed own country right whilst even many Dutch shall commonly refer to it as Holland on the grounds that that is what the majority of people believe it is called. The other point being the word "back", i.e. a country that he has previously left/emigrated from.

He claims to be ex USAF, except that he joined the Dutch Air Force, not the US Air Force, retiring as a Lt. Col. having made mention that he trained on T-38's but makes no mention of what type(s) he may have flown operationally nor the desk job positions that, at such a senior rank, he would have fulfilled, then despite being a supposed ex AA Captain he still calls himself Lt. Col. yet, now, claims to hold EASA/FAA licenses obviously to operate his own biz jets, so when he makes a passenger PA does he announce "This is the Captain speaking" or "This is the Lieutenant Colonel speaking"?

But, with all due respect, looking at those pics he doesn't appear well enough or the age of to even be driving a car, he's hardly RICH if he buys his clothing online at Amazon to then make such a deal in a review of something as simple as a tee-shirt, in the pics he dresses far from the dress code that one would expect of a CEO of a VIP biz jet operation, Amazon don't operate in the Dutch Antilles so he would need to be doing his online shopping in USA suggesting that he is domicile in USA rather than managing a company in the Dutch Antilles and if he were operating 'PJ' registered aircraft then why would he need a FAA license and medical?

There are so many things that don't add up here and the Judge Judy saying of "If one doesn't lie then one doesn't need such a good memory" comes to mind.

DaveReidUK 16th May 2020 06:50

My understanding is that he lives in Oklahoma.

Auxtank 16th May 2020 07:14

Depending on how you feel about the guy you could always let these guys investigate for you...
https://en-gb.facebook.com/pg/Stolen...=page_internal

It depends if he's ripping anyone off on the strength of the 'alleged' falsehoods.
On the other hand you may just feel sorry for the poor deluded soul.

El Grifo 16th May 2020 07:18

A bit of a witch hunt here !
Been following it, but confused as to the motive !
Is this guy some kind of known baddie or is there some kind of personal vendetta going on ?
El Grifo

Auxtank 16th May 2020 07:30

I would side on him being just a sad old deluded bloke and pretty harmless.

B737900er 16th May 2020 10:19

He told me last night his uncle is Joe Henry Engle (which could be true) and plans to do a live stream with him.

He told me he doesnt have a FAA licence, he was allowed to fly on his JAA one for American Airlines. Now may be that was the case back in the 70/80’s ?

He has been battling cancer since 82’ and still held a medical. I questioned this, and showed legislation that said you have to be in remission before a medical could be considered on a waiver.

The Dutch Antilles is no longer and is classed as The Netherlands hence he can fly on his EASA licence. 🤔

I havent got a vendetta with the guy, I know he is lying, Its the great people on this forum who have found the nitty gritty on him. My gut feeling seems to be right.

He did admit he opened up Stel-leena communications. So its 100% the guy.


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