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tallsandwich 9th Nov 2005 21:11

You don't need to be a pilot to bullshit!!
 
Danny,

You may be hosting (and giving out invitations to) this party but...

"In the meantime, new airliners undergoing testing......all have their own forums on here and this isn't one of them!"

Guess the whole thread should be moved to another forum as last time I checked, the A380 was "a new airliner undergoing testing" :p

So far this thread still contains no facts re A380 noise and no amount of time consuming moderation will change that :{

If talk of A380 noise needs to continue, then you might as well invite the guy who fixes the roofs on the portacabins on the St Martin site of Airbus France - as he will be uniquely qualified to give the most accurate "figures" which will certainly not be measured in any known scientific units :E

My alternative proposal - get the A380 to fly into (and then leave) BRU after a 747 and then we all check out the 'Wake Up Craainem' web site for a fair comparison
http://www.wakeupkraainem.be/sonometres/

Anyone know of a similar site for FRA so we can check it out and you can all stop arguing without any facts?

ExSimGuy 10th Nov 2005 14:54

Noisy Aircraft
 
As a long-not-aviator, but a quite old member of this forum, I hope Danny will forgive me (if not, I'm banned :) )

Maybe he had a bad flight or had a Boing (or Bus - not sure which he flies) bump into him this morning - but it's his site and he has more entitlement to comment that the rest of us - AND to move to Spotters Corner!!

Whichever camp you belong to, the 380 is a heck of a piece of engineering. The Conc made a lot of noise, but we got usedto it (some even loved it - and I used to live on the A4,right beside LHR right runway!)

Have any of the detrators ever stood behind a 727 (pre-"hush-kit" taxiing?? :ugh: - any modern high-bypass fan-jet has to be quieter than that (similar story with BAC 1-11 and Trident, but maybe not quite so much)

Evac? - well, it has to prove itself and we'll have to wait and see, but I doubt if 'Bus would have gone this far and spent as much money if they weren't sure it would qualify!

Personally, I'm quite looking forward to the first time I get to fly from RUH or BAH to LHR on this remarkable aircraft. Surely we heard all these arguments decades ago when the 747 first debued?

And if the DeamLiner gets on the route, I'll be very interested in that too
:ok:

alert5 11th Nov 2005 02:35

A380 Arrival at WSSL (Photos)
 
Managed to catch its arrival one hour ago.

http://www.radarvector.com/2005/11/a...singapore.html

ACMS 11th Nov 2005 04:27

Being a chap employed as a "Professional" in this wonderful business we call Aviation I feel very qualified to give my 2 cents worth...................here goes again.

Airbus build cheap plastic throw away crap. Always have and always will.

If it's not Boeing................

Get the picture?

chow.

N380UA 11th Nov 2005 09:20

Airbus A380 landed in Singapore.
 
N24

Looks like the A380 is on a promo tour through Asia and Australia.

Dani 11th Nov 2005 09:31

I've been there! It's big!

http://www.angelfire.com/wi3/danielw...mages/A380.jpg

Dani

BlueEagle 11th Nov 2005 11:21

Singapore (Changi), where the picture shows the a/c landing, used to be WSSS, what is the significance of the change to WSSL please?

Avman 11th Nov 2005 16:08

I thought WSSL was Seletar. Changi is still WSSS isn't it?

Airbus340FO 11th Nov 2005 17:16

Hello 747FOCAL,
with surprise I got to read your comments in the forum. A lot of times I can´t imagine you are a prof. pilot, or something horrible must happened to you in the past.
But you can be proud, because I took my nickname after your so well known name here.

It seems to me, you are the second best known person herein the forum after 411A.

To give you some insight from Frankfurt/Germany. The people you are referring to in your post would like to stop airtraffic completely in Frankfurt Rhein/Main and they are also a privately organised group.

Just for your information and back to the facts:

The ILS intercept was out of 3000´ feet, fully established, instead out of the standard 4000´ and that was one of the points, where they had their first noise monitoring point.

Second, we really got a laugh out of the statement from the generated tornados and the rooftops in danger in the approach path from RWY 07 ( a little in front of the marker ).

"Such turbulence he has “never experienced". If the plane would have flown very low over Raunheim, “the roofs would have blown off".


But just a little info about that A380.

Lufthansa will phase out the 747 now, since they need so much fuel.
The A340-600 is saving 25tons compared to the 747-400 in fuel on each leg to Buenos Aires. (same payload, wind etc.. )
The A380 is at least 15% more efficient in any sector then the A340-600.

But they are thinking at Lufthansa about buying a 787, when the aircraft will perform as promised and that also in time.

hope that makes you happy...

MarkD 12th Nov 2005 01:11

alert5 probably made a typo while hoping to pull people to his blog as usual. At least he isn't just linking to someone else's site this time - although there is no attribution on the photos...

BlueEagle 12th Nov 2005 01:11

Thanks Avman. I'd love to see an A380 land at Seletar!!!

alert5 12th Nov 2005 02:25

I took the photos myself for your information. Taken with a Casio EX-Z3. Need more proof?

And sorry for the typo. I was rushing to get to work.

bantios 12th Nov 2005 07:39

A380 at Melbourne
 
Any fellow pilots going to watch the A380 land this Monday at Melbourne airport?

I will be there with a smile on my face.

One day,, just one day ill be off the 320 and onto this massive 380.

bekolblockage 12th Nov 2005 08:41

Saw it land in Singapore yesterday. Doesn't look that long, but it sure is high and wiiiiiiide!

Greenmonkey 12th Nov 2005 09:09

i might go on monday evening, does any one know what there is gonna be to do there, are you going to be able to see the thing ?

bantios 12th Nov 2005 09:13

The viewing deck inside the airport will be open all day and night to view the A380. Being a pilot on a bus already; we will be given a tour of the insides.

blackwatergoblin 12th Nov 2005 09:58

BIggggggggg!
 
Ramblings of a feeble mind edited out.....

Traffic 12th Nov 2005 14:24

There was plethora of old kit around the place at Changi this morning...

Travolta's V-Jet Qantas 707 which I presume is a trailing spouse for the A380 Tour Downunder.

Aso a Pakistan 707 on the hardstand around Bay 40, plus the usual KC135 parked over the far end of the strip.

ExSimGuy 12th Nov 2005 17:12


Any fellow pilots going to watch the A380 land
Careful, Guys - Better wear your wings and stripes. You could getmistaken for spotters :*

Bantios, Hope you get your wish (ah, if I was a few years younger . . . AND had a few more \"A-Levels\")

jamesh.com.au 14th Nov 2005 11:30

A380 @ YMML
 
http://trapdoor.darb.net/gallery/A380-YML-141105

Thanks a ton to John Eacott for the ride! Hopefully this is the right forum for these!



http://trapdoor.darb.net/albums/A380...6940.sized.jpg



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http://trapdoor.darb.net/albums/A380...6968.sized.jpg


More here: http://trapdoor.darb.net/gallery/A380-YML-141105

VC10 Rib22 14th Nov 2005 11:40

I loved seeing her at Paris 2005, nice the Aussies have finally got to see her sheer size, in the flesh. Good crowds, too.

VC10 Rib22

:ok:

Sultan Ismail 14th Nov 2005 17:29

Hope it goes to the paint shop before it gets here on Thursday or Malaysia Airlines will be p*ss*d off.

Did you notice the SIA logos at WSSS, the QANTAS logos at YMML

exmax 15th Nov 2005 00:15

Thanks for posting those pics of the A380 in MEL, I managed to see it's departure ex SYD yesterday morning and certainly was the highlight of my day.:D

exmax

jamesh.com.au 16th Nov 2005 11:50

thanks guys, I was just in a fortunate position. I think I was the only airborne photographer there .... which is quite funny as it was my first time in a harness, hanging out of a jetranger!

BOAC 16th Nov 2005 12:31

Taking bondage to 'new heights', Jamesh?:D

jamesh.com.au 17th Nov 2005 19:11

LOL! I never said first time in bondage ... Don't Go There! :O :p

Sultan Ismail 17th Nov 2005 23:43

Corporate Logos

Pleased to report that it did arive in Kuala Lumpur with MALAYSIA logos, a lot of paint has gone into this promo tour, that QANTAS logo took up a lot of real estate.

dushank 19th Nov 2005 07:39

A380 in Dubai airport - pictures
 
Taken on 19th November 2005 from a nearby building.

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7559/p60300274af.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/97/p60300290of.jpg
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8593/p60300300fg.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4661/p60300314sb.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3286/p60300328jq.jpg

vapilot2004 19th Nov 2005 08:02

Dushank, you are a good man for posting these first photos !

Thank you thank You !

According to the Airbus website, the big bird (as I like to call her) will be the highlight of the show - including flying demonstrations.

I've seen Lockheed's C-5s at close range -very impressive - I would imagine an A380 would be quite the thrill to see in person too ! (a bit quieter I should think)

For having only a couple of A380 copies flying about - there sure are a nice variety of airline colors to see.


BRGDS,
vapilot

:cool:

PS for the technical among us - Airbus has recently released the Airport planning documents on the A380 - including typical seating, jet exhaust maps, dimensions and service ports.

White Knight 19th Nov 2005 10:34

As I said on the thread running in the Middle East forum, the 380 dressed in Emirates logo looked great this morning flying around Jumeirah...

And it was VERY QUIET - I think the Learjet chase plane doing a photoshoot generated far more noise:{

JJflyer 20th Nov 2005 15:44

Ugly
 
But oh my is it ugly. It looks even worse in real life than it does on pictures.

JJ

dushank 22nd Nov 2005 13:08

A380 in Dubai Air Show 2005
 
A380 in Dubai Air Show 2005

Isn't she beautiful ?

The credit goes to my friend Viren Pushpanayagam who captured these lovely shots.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6783/p10505763ok.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/844/p10505942ok.jpg

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6696/p10505956op.jpg

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/4549/p10505968at.jpg

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8595/p10506004ol.jpg

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http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7946/p10506171xb.jpg

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/8923/p10506180ih.jpg

Xeque 22nd Nov 2005 14:42

These are fabulous pix. But can you imagine how much more impressive it will all be in years to come when the fuselage plugs go in and the aircraft becomes a lot longer than it is now.

Remember the A340. It looked quite squat until the 400 and 600 versions were introduced.

reverserunlocked 25th Nov 2005 01:48

Cue Andy from Little Britain voice.. 'I don't like it'

luchtzak 1st Dec 2005 23:01

Exlusive Pictures Of Emirates' A380 Escort By PDF
 
He is Belgian ánd he is leading the Emirates-Airbus A380 integration program: captain Patrick De Roeck was the very first commercial pilot to fly the Airbus A380 for Emirates Airlines on the Dubai Air Show, escorted by the 'Patrouille De France'. Have a look at the images here: http://www.luchtzak.be/article10645.html

greetz,

Bart

brockenspectre 2nd Dec 2005 11:29

Great pics! Can't wait to see my first "live" A380 ... :ok:

sarah737 4th Dec 2005 00:06

Not on the pictures, but the patrouille de france flew a barrel roll around the 380.

BOAC 4th Dec 2005 08:00

I KNEW the wake turbulence was going to be a problem...........:D :D

Alain 10th Dec 2005 18:55

SIA first to get A380
 
hey everyone

i was sure to see a A380 with a big sticker on it saying SIA is to be the first one to take delivery of the A380 but now im seeing all these pictures of Emirates A380 fully painted and all, im not quite sure if it is in service yet but can anyone explain to me whats going on there???

cheers

ciao

akerosid 10th Dec 2005 19:11

Hi Alain,

SIA will get its first A380 in Nov/Dec of next year; Emirates will gets its first aircraft in/about April 2007 (although Tim Clarke, EK's CEO, has said he's not altogether convinced of this - and is dangling the expected A350 order as a means to "encourage" Airbus to deliver on time).

The Dubai Air Show was held last month and since EK is a pretty sizeable A380 customer (the biggest by a long way) and since EK is a big Airbus customer, an A380 was painted in EK's livery for the show.

I don't think the one painted in EK colours is actually going to EK; indeed, ironically, two of the test aircraft (possibly including that one) are going to find a home a few miles down the road in AUH, with Etihad.


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