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Photo 27th Apr 2005 22:13

001

Not just you:ok:

Gunship 27th Apr 2005 22:57

Congratulations Airbus and all the sub's involved putting this great machine together.

Amazing how CNN keeps on showing useless info re the Dreamliner - Wonder how much Boeing paid for the " add " :E

PS: I love her .. only real problem I have is to see her 5 maybe 10 .. well who cares 12 m longer. :E

Is the " stretched version" a joke or reality ?

Cheers Airbus and Europe Aviation :ok:

Jordan D 27th Apr 2005 23:15

Speedbird 001 - I had that thought as well. And boy did she fly.

Jordan

ww1 27th Apr 2005 23:23

Wow, pigs really do fly! But it really was quite impressive in the air. I noticed that the main gear bogeys tilt forward, tippy-toe'd like the b767. A mate of mine says the 67's bogeys tilt forward due to clearance issues with the cargo bay/doors. Anyone know the reason for the 380's config?

Vee One...Rotate 27th Apr 2005 23:55

I like the new "Seeing Is Believing." slogan on the Airbus website. Sounds as if they were just as surprised/amazed to see the A380 get of the ground as quite a few of us! :O

Been at work all day so only now able to kick back and have a look at all of these vids...

Very impressed so far...

V1R :ok:

25F 28th Apr 2005 01:59

Looks a lot better in the air - there's a bird with big wings!

Jerricho 28th Apr 2005 02:41


Whats that.....about a 30 minute flight
Come on PornKingFocal. That the best you got?

747FOCAL 28th Apr 2005 05:01

I think I am beginning to sense a little bit of animosity there Jerricho..... Mrs. focal thinks it is "bits" envy. :E

Me, I think your just trying to bait me. But you and I know thats not going to work. :E

AAIGUY 28th Apr 2005 05:18

Ok ..who really cares. Its a plane. In 10 years someone will build something equally new. Whatever. Just another tube someone is going to lock me in 10-15hrs keep me from home.

ITS ONLY A PLANE

The_Cutest_of_Borg 28th Apr 2005 05:46


Its a plane. In 10 years someone will build something equally new
Sorry, but this is not just another plane.

Congrats to all involved, you made history today.
So good to see what the human race is capable of with focussed minds. :ok: :ok:

Dude~ 28th Apr 2005 10:35

Gear retraction
 
Airbus.com has a great video clip showing the gear retraction. Has anybody eles noticed that the main body gear bogies, the 6 wheelers, appear to retract directly upwards rather than folding either sideways or forwards like most airliners.

How the hell do they do that?!

missioncontrol 28th Apr 2005 10:43

Congratulations to the whole Airbus Team at Toulouse and Filton...........your flying machine flies.

A moment in time to be savoured.

fastjet2k 28th Apr 2005 11:02


ITS ONLY A PLANE
Sorry, last time I checked this was an aviation website frequented by aviation professionals..... what do you expect people to be talking about besides the first flight of the world's newest and largest passenger jet?

Good on you Airbus, you've just proved a lot of people wrong...

foxmoth 28th Apr 2005 11:11

fj2k, quite agree, don't know what AAIGUY is on this site for with that sort of comment - or is he one of those jouno "spies"?:uhoh:

nosefirsteverytime 28th Apr 2005 11:33

Alright, I now will never buy a tabloid again.

I don't buy the Sun because it's racist.
I don't buy the (Irish) Star because it uses words like "Mad Mullah MacDowell"
And now if you look at page 14 of the Mirror, you'll see why I will never buy another copy.
*Hint: look at the thread I've posted my rant in*

Anyways, to bring things back on track, what did you all make of the pics in the newspapers? I liked the one the Irish Independent has. A great shot.

panda-k-bear 28th Apr 2005 11:34

Bahrainlad,

Not to mention the viability of such ludicrous routes. I'm looking forward to the Boeing 787 service from Doncaster Robin Hood to Bakersfield California, or maybe I'll go to La Paz. Loony - absolutley loony! You'd be lucky to fill a Cessna Citation once a week with people wanting to go to these destinations!

Indi - Bremen is just as loopy, quite frankly.

McAero 28th Apr 2005 11:41

Could you give us a clue? I don't buy the Mirror anyway.

:)

Ontariotech 28th Apr 2005 11:45

I am a boeing fan, never bought into the joystick controller, wheel thingy, nintendo gamepad type whatever. Always liked the stick between my legs, if you know what I mean.

I just saw the video for the first time here on AIrbus.com and WOW....absolutly awesome.

It is BIG, it sounds big, looks big and it is going to be a great airliner for any airline.


Good Job AIrbus.:ok:

xetroV 28th Apr 2005 11:47

I don't know about the pics in the (british) newspapers, but I like this pic on PlanePictures, showing the news helicopter hovering behind the A380's tail:

http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=327562

Duff beer 28th Apr 2005 11:47

380 in the UK
 
just heard on the BBC that;

"The new Robin Hood airport is the only airport in the UK, outside of London, that is capable of handling the new A380".

surely this cant be correct!

Anyone care to prove me right/wrong?

nosefirsteverytime 28th Apr 2005 11:48

They sandwiched the news on page 14, with 3/4 the width and the whole length taken up by an ad for Currys, and a full-page nissan ad on page 15.

But they then go and use a stock image of a Beluga silouetted against the sun with the caption "TAKE- OFF: Airbus A380 yesterday" I'm disappointed. :ugh: :ugh:

As for the Irish Independent, that has to be the best I've seen so far. spectators in foreground, hands and baseball hats in air, then the Airbus with the chaseplane alongside. Fantastic.

McAero 28th Apr 2005 11:53

It's true. The new runway is 2 miles long and is "potentially" the only airport outside London which could take the A380 just now.

Raggyman 28th Apr 2005 11:58

panda-k-bear - wonder how interesting it would be to have a mystery flight on a A380. Could you imagine having probably the whole population of a small village on a plane just turn up to the airport get on the plane and set course for an equally out of the way place. Maybe the A380 can become part of the new upwardly mobile trailer park crowd. Obviously Airbus haven't thought about that new possible market boom.

the_flying_cop 28th Apr 2005 12:15

maybe so but...........
 
the runway may be long enough, but (and i dont wish to deride the new robin hood enterprise) does it have the infrastructure to deal with the aircraft once it has left the runway and approaches the terminal - yes i know its 18 months away yet but im just adding a bit of food for thought.


TFC

McAero 28th Apr 2005 12:27

I don't think that was the point they were making. I doubt highly that the A380 will land anywhere else except Heathrow, Gatwick and possibly Manchester in the next 10 years.

Bagso 28th Apr 2005 12:46

Don't believe everything you see or hear on the BBC.....

GrahamK 28th Apr 2005 12:47

Prestwick as well, surely, as it can handle the Antonov 225 which is significantly bigger than the 380

McAero 28th Apr 2005 12:51

Prestwick couldn't handle that volume of passengers.

VIKING9 28th Apr 2005 12:52


Don't believe everything you see or hear on the BBC.....
Especially as BBC Radio reported last night that "The Boeing A380 flew for the first time today blah blah"......

Capt.KAOS 28th Apr 2005 13:16

On the first A380's there will "only" 555 pax I believe?

Once I landed NRT together with 4 other 747's, immigration was hell (1,5 hour).

Swedish Steve 28th Apr 2005 14:09

The undercarriage retraction is on last nights Toulouse TV news at http://www.m6.fr/html/info/player/frame_soir.htm

Its only 2 secs long!!

Tinpot Radio 28th Apr 2005 14:16

Well done to all involved in the A380 development and test flight yesterday - a magnificent achievement. You are welcome to make a low approach at London City/Biggin Hill anytime!

It seems, PPRuNe Pop, ironic that you have started another A380 thread yourself - whoops!!!!:{ :ok:

EDIT:Ho Ho Ho, Tinpot. I've given you the benefit of the doubt on your reading skills and put your witty retort here.

To Tinpot and anyone else who cannot read - I'm in a 'Dalek' mood (UK TV theme) and ANY other new threads on the first flight will be RUTHLESSLY EXTERMINATED so all your wit and repartee will go to waste!
:{

Sultan Ismail 28th Apr 2005 14:54

Where will it land?

Elaborating on McAero's posting, when the A380 enters commercial service with Singapore Airlines the most travelled route will be the SIN-KUL Shuttle, about 240 nm's and 50 minutes, at 30 pounds sterling return this is going to be one very popular route. Singapore used the Shuttle to get their crews up to speed on the A345.

My first flight in the Boeing 747 was Geneva to Zurich, December 1970, and a bargain at SFR100 return.

The sooner this 'plane gets commercial the better, last weekend I was waitlisted in Biz for KUL-LHR, both directions, and I never got above 7 on the list, and I had booked 2 weeks earlier. Mind you Malaysian know how to look after you back in economy.

JamesT73J 28th Apr 2005 15:33

Is it possible that it may have similar runway performance to the 747, despite the obvious size and weight factors?

I seem to remember reading that Airbus were claiming similar takeoff performance on a 'typically' loaded aircraft, but I'm damned if I can remember where this was written. It could of course have been marketing exuberance.

If that is the case that's one half of the hypothetical question answered. That being said I'm sure there's alot of infrastructure associated with an aircraft this size and that will probably be the biggest obstacle.

I'm curious to see how well it stops. There must be some fearsome energy being transferred to those brakes, even with the spoilers and 2 reversers working.

jay_hl 28th Apr 2005 15:37

Retracting Gear
 
Here is a vid of the 380 retracting its gear yesterday while in-flight.

Its quite spectacular to watch.

http://www.airbus.com/A380/seeing/indexminisite.aspx

Go to enter
Then on the left for Videos
and look to the second from the left called A380 in flight under the title A380 Maiden Flight

Enjoy

Jay

spud's on the job 28th Apr 2005 15:40

Lovely video Swedish Steve
 
Bu99er the A380, Miss France in Playboy shocker at 9:35 on your video - cheers for that!!!

back to the thread

Main_Tenant 28th Apr 2005 16:38

The comment about Robin Hood being able to take this plane is surely relevant to overall air safety. This plane with so many passengers is going to have to land on occasion for medical emergencies. In the immediate future there are not going to be many opportunities for that runway length. The fact the airport cannot efficiently cope with regular visits does not detract from the usefulness of “any port in a storm”. The Far East routes will presumably have to investigate where they can put down in a hurry.

MarkD 28th Apr 2005 17:00

Main_Tenant

the main issue with 380 is not runway length but taxiway width and wing overhang. Obviously Robin Hood were able to design in A380 from the start where older airports have to adapt.

As for diversions: remember one engine out of four is a lot easier to choose diversion than one engine out of two, and makes losing an engine on takeoff easier to manage! A short ferry flight to origin/mx base or to destination will reduce TOW well below the usual requirements. 777s have been popping into tight fields too - people manage to sort them!

(edited for clarity)

ShotOne 28th Apr 2005 17:44

Yes, very impressive -although I can't say the same for the BBC coverage of the flight which gave about the same airtime allocated for the flight to some sweater wearer from Friends of the Earth spouting dubious statistics about greenhouse gasses.

JamesT73J 28th Apr 2005 17:59

Sky News had a dual feed right up until the A380 turned onto the runway, which had one pane showing Michael Howard sitting in an aircraft window seat, and the other pane showing the Airbus taxiing, which led to a few confused looks at work from passers by.


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