A PPRuNe FUND - To assist pilots and would be pilots to achieve their goal
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When Danny gets back from his hard weeks slog in Barbados!!!!! Tuesday I think, and after he has had his mandatory kip, he will sign the last docs for the bank and I can open the account.
Till then my hearties you can send cheques made out to The PPRuNe Fund at the address on my post in PAGE 3 of this thread.
As many cheques as you want - I have a quite a few to enter into our new paying in book - when it arrives - and after that we can use the new technology to transfer funds electronically. I stand by what I have said recently, for every £1000 we achieve I will add £25 each time.
Out of Trim. Yes! An idea we have had for some time, which fits nicely with another view that PPRuNe will be a place for airlines to find their new young pilots. Especially as there will be a serious shortage of them within two years. So, the airlines will be approached to provide some funds
Charity Status. Another thing we are working on. Dr Syn is doing that. He has been involved in the mysterious and wonderful world of charities for some years and is the ideal chap for the job.
Mentoring. That is coming along now and we should be on our way soon. Another very experienced PPRuNer has offered himself just recently, and since I know of his quality and background we will not be short of the right people to assist the leader, a Training Captain with BUZZ.
It's happening guys and gals. After 40 years in aviation I am as excited about this as anyone, and will work like hell with the help of some very able and capable people.
NEVER, never forget, that here on PPRuNe we have the best flight deck, ATC, Cabin Services and Engineering people - including the three Armed Services - anywhere in the world. Many we can use, if they live in the UK for example, some we gain advice from if they live outside. You would be seriously surprised at the amount of little ideas that pop-up on my mail. I cleaned out over 600 e-mail messages yesterday - EVERY one of them no older than 4 months. The advice goes in pigeon holes along with other ideas, which I look at regularly. I Love it!
Don't forget our slogan.
"LET'S PUT SOMETHING BACK"
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Till then my hearties you can send cheques made out to The PPRuNe Fund at the address on my post in PAGE 3 of this thread.
As many cheques as you want - I have a quite a few to enter into our new paying in book - when it arrives - and after that we can use the new technology to transfer funds electronically. I stand by what I have said recently, for every £1000 we achieve I will add £25 each time.
Out of Trim. Yes! An idea we have had for some time, which fits nicely with another view that PPRuNe will be a place for airlines to find their new young pilots. Especially as there will be a serious shortage of them within two years. So, the airlines will be approached to provide some funds
Charity Status. Another thing we are working on. Dr Syn is doing that. He has been involved in the mysterious and wonderful world of charities for some years and is the ideal chap for the job.
Mentoring. That is coming along now and we should be on our way soon. Another very experienced PPRuNer has offered himself just recently, and since I know of his quality and background we will not be short of the right people to assist the leader, a Training Captain with BUZZ.
It's happening guys and gals. After 40 years in aviation I am as excited about this as anyone, and will work like hell with the help of some very able and capable people.
NEVER, never forget, that here on PPRuNe we have the best flight deck, ATC, Cabin Services and Engineering people - including the three Armed Services - anywhere in the world. Many we can use, if they live in the UK for example, some we gain advice from if they live outside. You would be seriously surprised at the amount of little ideas that pop-up on my mail. I cleaned out over 600 e-mail messages yesterday - EVERY one of them no older than 4 months. The advice goes in pigeon holes along with other ideas, which I look at regularly. I Love it!
Don't forget our slogan.
"LET'S PUT SOMETHING BACK"
[This message has been edited by InFinRetirement (edited 31 December 2000).]
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InFin Ive read this thread over and over again and I cant seem to find the answer to a question I have:
Dont read this the wrong way, but is this Fund going to simpley be a handout for kids who eventualy want airline jet jobs, or is it meant instead to be a very minimal low-interest loan for them?
Also will the type of flying the kid wants to get into be taken into account?
Thanks.
Dont read this the wrong way, but is this Fund going to simpley be a handout for kids who eventualy want airline jet jobs, or is it meant instead to be a very minimal low-interest loan for them?
Also will the type of flying the kid wants to get into be taken into account?
Thanks.
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Hi Slasher. I am sorry if it hasn't come across too well but the basic plan will be to help wannabes on the first step of the ladder, to a PPL, ATPL, IR or whatever the circumstances happen to be.
The first part is selection for mentoring. That will be pretty hard on wannabes for obvious reasons. The main one being that we don't want to waste the money on anyone without the necessary ability to succeed.
There is NO pay back. If the guys are worthy then it will be given to assist them get to on their way to a licence.
For example we could be asked to pay for fees, for study material, for almost anything to get them their licence. We could even pay for a whole course if the guy was particularly good.
Does that help? Hope so, it's a bit late and the Isle of Jura single malt is taking effect.
Happy New Year to you mate. Have a great 2001.
The first part is selection for mentoring. That will be pretty hard on wannabes for obvious reasons. The main one being that we don't want to waste the money on anyone without the necessary ability to succeed.
There is NO pay back. If the guys are worthy then it will be given to assist them get to on their way to a licence.
For example we could be asked to pay for fees, for study material, for almost anything to get them their licence. We could even pay for a whole course if the guy was particularly good.
Does that help? Hope so, it's a bit late and the Isle of Jura single malt is taking effect.
Happy New Year to you mate. Have a great 2001.
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InFinRetirement; happy New Year to you Sir, I do appreciate all the efforts you do, and I hope it will all work out as it is for a noble cause, I was following up your responses and the last one to Slasher, and I think to be able to make it a long lasting thing that the people we help should be able to pay the amount paid to them at any long term convenience when they get employed, so the account will always have some money and more people will benefit, please consider having a clear policy regarding this matter. This whole project should carry the name of the inventor . Thank you
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InFinRetirement:
This is an ecellent idea and hope it gets of the ground safely.My cheque is in the post (the bank manager can get stuffed
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I have two points to make - not so long ago I went to the careers adviser at school and suggested I wanted to be a pilot, they laughed and suggested a career in the NHS, therefore I think careers advise to those still at school is important.
Now I have a shiny new Frozen ATPL/IR , although its starting to look more tarnished the more CV's I send out. so advise after training for those of us who have licenses, but no job, would be welcomed such as workshops looking at CV's, interview techniques and all the usual physco babble and tests.
Happy New Year to Everyone and good luck with the fund.
Strimmer
This is an ecellent idea and hope it gets of the ground safely.My cheque is in the post (the bank manager can get stuffed
)I have two points to make - not so long ago I went to the careers adviser at school and suggested I wanted to be a pilot, they laughed and suggested a career in the NHS, therefore I think careers advise to those still at school is important.
Now I have a shiny new Frozen ATPL/IR , although its starting to look more tarnished the more CV's I send out. so advise after training for those of us who have licenses, but no job, would be welcomed such as workshops looking at CV's, interview techniques and all the usual physco babble and tests.
Happy New Year to Everyone and good luck with the fund.
Strimmer
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InFinRetirement
Have read the whole post with considerable interest as an aspiring wannabee and as nice as any potential funding aid is, I'm not sure if that would help the industry as a whole. Granted it might make say two more potential pilots a year to go onto jobs but, and this might sound crazy coming from someone in need of sponsorship, would the funding not be better utilised by helping more people. In other words, whilst sponsoring helps a few, things like workshops, mentoring and advice would help many.
Wouldn't that increase the impact that the fund actually had on the industry as a whole, much more than the funding help?
Just a thought. It is an extremely good idea though.
I noticed that the mentoring idea was mentioned to be up and running. Is it to be on a separate site?
Have read the whole post with considerable interest as an aspiring wannabee and as nice as any potential funding aid is, I'm not sure if that would help the industry as a whole. Granted it might make say two more potential pilots a year to go onto jobs but, and this might sound crazy coming from someone in need of sponsorship, would the funding not be better utilised by helping more people. In other words, whilst sponsoring helps a few, things like workshops, mentoring and advice would help many.
Wouldn't that increase the impact that the fund actually had on the industry as a whole, much more than the funding help?
Just a thought. It is an extremely good idea though.
I noticed that the mentoring idea was mentioned to be up and running. Is it to be on a separate site?
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It has been quite difficult getting things up and running now but the bank details are complete, we should have an account opened very very shortly.
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On another piece of news, of which there will be more details later, is that one of our member's has produced a beautiful painting of a TSR2. He then thought it would be a good idea to let the PPRuNe Fund have full print rights to it, so that we could sell the prints. He will, of course, retain the original, but a printer friend of his has agreed to print a large number of copies for free, and then to destroy the plates after the print run. They will sell at a modest price each.
However, I got in touch with Roland Beamont - TSR2's original Chief Test Pilot - with the help of our own John Farley, and 'Bee', as he is affectionately known, has agreed to 'come out of retirement' and sign around 350 limited editions. A very nice gesture, which is very much appreciated. These will obviously sell as a collectors item. I am also hoping that the deputy Chief Test Pilot, Jimmy Dell, will also sign them. A price for these limited editions will be announced later. They will be available in early March we hope. But it will certainly add much more cash into the fund.
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On another piece of news, of which there will be more details later, is that one of our member's has produced a beautiful painting of a TSR2. He then thought it would be a good idea to let the PPRuNe Fund have full print rights to it, so that we could sell the prints. He will, of course, retain the original, but a printer friend of his has agreed to print a large number of copies for free, and then to destroy the plates after the print run. They will sell at a modest price each.
However, I got in touch with Roland Beamont - TSR2's original Chief Test Pilot - with the help of our own John Farley, and 'Bee', as he is affectionately known, has agreed to 'come out of retirement' and sign around 350 limited editions. A very nice gesture, which is very much appreciated. These will obviously sell as a collectors item. I am also hoping that the deputy Chief Test Pilot, Jimmy Dell, will also sign them. A price for these limited editions will be announced later. They will be available in early March we hope. But it will certainly add much more cash into the fund.
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Slasher
I've missed you! (or not read the right threads?)
I would sincerely hope that the pilots that The Fund helps to put into right-hand seats (and later move to the left!) would be very serious contributors to The Fund in later years!
In the fraternal and philanthropic lodge to which I belong, we hand out assistance ( we don't "do" loans) to where it is needed, but the recipient often puts more back if he finds that our assistance is no longer needed and that he is in a position to help others.
(no "PC-correctness" comments, please - it's a "Male only" organisation
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What Goes Around . . . . .
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I've missed you! (or not read the right threads?)
I would sincerely hope that the pilots that The Fund helps to put into right-hand seats (and later move to the left!) would be very serious contributors to The Fund in later years!
In the fraternal and philanthropic lodge to which I belong, we hand out assistance ( we don't "do" loans) to where it is needed, but the recipient often puts more back if he finds that our assistance is no longer needed and that he is in a position to help others.
(no "PC-correctness" comments, please - it's a "Male only" organisation
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What Goes Around . . . . .
. . often makes a better landing
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Absolutely S/Bird. We will put a copy of it where all can see it.
In fact I spoke to 'Bee' Beamont this afternoon and he tells me he is not well. He is now 81, and I suddenly realised how nice it was of him to take this as one last committment.
He is still "bloody annoyed" that TSR2 was dumped! Gave me the date of the very first test flight too. Great man!
In fact I spoke to 'Bee' Beamont this afternoon and he tells me he is not well. He is now 81, and I suddenly realised how nice it was of him to take this as one last committment.
He is still "bloody annoyed" that TSR2 was dumped! Gave me the date of the very first test flight too. Great man!
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Thanks to all those involved in setting up a pprune fund to help out some wannabes. It's good to see that people involved in aviation are willing to help out those of us striving to break into the industry.
As to whether to make large sponsorships, or more smaller sponsorships, I'm sure that is something that you will decide once you see how successful the fund is at raising money initially.
Let's hope this is the beginning of many more such generous schemes.
As to whether to make large sponsorships, or more smaller sponsorships, I'm sure that is something that you will decide once you see how successful the fund is at raising money initially.
Let's hope this is the beginning of many more such generous schemes.