A PPRuNe FUND - To assist pilots and would be pilots to achieve their goal
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Just to add to the above. Myself and Buzzoff had a couple of meetings back in the summer and sorted out the initial stages of the Mentoring programme. However, we have been waiting for the powers that be, those who have the technical knowledge that myself and Buzzoff lack, to get what we have on a piece of paper onto this thing they call the web.
We are on the case, and continue to harrass the relevant people! As soon as they convert it all to computer pages then all systems are go!
We are ready and standing by.....
We are on the case, and continue to harrass the relevant people! As soon as they convert it all to computer pages then all systems are go!
We are ready and standing by.....
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OK! The situation is this. I have at last arranged with the Royal Bank of Scotland that they will be The PPRuNe Fund bankers, at least to start with. We should have an account opened within a few short days.
Then we can get going and get the promised cash in. The problem was that no-one at three banks could decide wether we are a business or an organisation. Seems we don't fit either, but they will do whatever is necessary.
PPRuNe Towers is No.2 Signature and The Boss will be able to look in at the account via his PC to see what is happening.
No point in saying anymore at this stage, but we will be getting going real soon.
Thanks Grandad Flyer, we will do whatever is necessary to get the mentoring moving.
Then we can get going and get the promised cash in. The problem was that no-one at three banks could decide wether we are a business or an organisation. Seems we don't fit either, but they will do whatever is necessary.
PPRuNe Towers is No.2 Signature and The Boss will be able to look in at the account via his PC to see what is happening.
No point in saying anymore at this stage, but we will be getting going real soon.
Thanks Grandad Flyer, we will do whatever is necessary to get the mentoring moving.
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IFR ;
1 - I just suggested that the thread should be separated from the seasons and greetings , nothing more. But I think that this thread wouldn't be brought back without that one..so I bite my tongue on this.
2 - I said there and I'll say here again : I will be more than happy to help/contribute. Just need to get the means of sending quantities overseas right and the details of recipients.
The idea is more than valid , and I think it will be here to stay. All of you who are really doing the job are blessed people. We most are all good on speak, but few get to start and do something.You are part of that few IFR...and all the others directly involved in this iniciative.
I sincerely wish all the best to the ones who are giving their time and dedication on this.
1 - I just suggested that the thread should be separated from the seasons and greetings , nothing more. But I think that this thread wouldn't be brought back without that one..so I bite my tongue on this.
2 - I said there and I'll say here again : I will be more than happy to help/contribute. Just need to get the means of sending quantities overseas right and the details of recipients.
The idea is more than valid , and I think it will be here to stay. All of you who are really doing the job are blessed people. We most are all good on speak, but few get to start and do something.You are part of that few IFR...and all the others directly involved in this iniciative.
I sincerely wish all the best to the ones who are giving their time and dedication on this.
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WX, we will take a good look at being a registered charity but it will take time. You just cannot do it just like that. However, there is someone very experienced in these matters who is dealing with while we await getting the bank details fixed up. Oh the wheels of beaurocratic crap!
Anyhow, some cheques have arrived and we have a total of over £1400 with the promise of much more to come. Much more.
BTW, not just for WX. Are YOU among the promised senders of cash? Look forward to it ta very much.
Anyhow, some cheques have arrived and we have a total of over £1400 with the promise of much more to come. Much more.
BTW, not just for WX. Are YOU among the promised senders of cash? Look forward to it ta very much.
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Well, I don't have a lot of spare cash right now as I'm in the middle of my ATPL training.
However, having just experienced the difficulties of raising the funds myself I'd be more than happy to give up a couple of pints a month to help out other fellow wannabe's. (I don't have time to drink them anyway with all this ATPL study
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If you let me know the account details I'll happily set up a standing order for £5 quid a month.
It's not a lot I know but if we all chip in something similar it'll soon add up !!
Regards
UA
However, having just experienced the difficulties of raising the funds myself I'd be more than happy to give up a couple of pints a month to help out other fellow wannabe's. (I don't have time to drink them anyway with all this ATPL study
)If you let me know the account details I'll happily set up a standing order for £5 quid a month.
It's not a lot I know but if we all chip in something similar it'll soon add up !!
Regards
UA
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Being a final year student at the moment, I don't think I'm in a position to lend my support financially (my bank manager echoes this sentiment). However I would be more than happy to devote my time to organising some fund-raising causes.
I used to organise university balls etc., and I have organised concerts (albeit not very big ones). If my experience in the field of promotions is of any use to the PPRuNe fund, then I can certainly donate my time.
I used to organise university balls etc., and I have organised concerts (albeit not very big ones). If my experience in the field of promotions is of any use to the PPRuNe fund, then I can certainly donate my time.
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I have a question?? How is someone to be selected for any possible grant? Will the selection process be similar to BA where you have to be a business person to qualify or will it be someone who has a book with the numbers of every UK plane (Sorry Aeroplane) crossed out? Also what is the point of training someone to get a Frozen ATPL only for them to join the pool of qualified but inexperienced unemployable pilots? I know a number of First Officers and Captains and the majority of them say they have to work long and excessive hours because of understaffing. If the airlines are short of pilots why not have a sheme that helps pilots into jobs, maybe by underwriting the airlines risk in training. Why anyone, instead of everyone, should be handed a full career on a plate I believe is totally wrong and unfair on that vast majority of pilots who have had to find tens of thousands of pounds for their own training.
More people could be helped by doing this than helping one or two individuals per year.
I have a question?? How is someone to be selected for any possible grant? Will the selection process be similar to BA where you have to be a business person to qualify or will it be someone who has a book with the numbers of every UK plane (Sorry Aeroplane) crossed out? Also what is the point of training someone to get a Frozen ATPL only for them to join the pool of qualified but inexperienced unemployable pilots? I know a number of First Officers and Captains and the majority of them say they have to work long and excessive hours because of understaffing. If the airlines are short of pilots why not have a sheme that helps pilots into jobs, maybe by underwriting the airlines risk in training. Why anyone, instead of everyone, should be handed a full career on a plate I believe is totally wrong and unfair on that vast majority of pilots who have had to find tens of thousands of pounds for their own training.
More people could be helped by doing this than helping one or two individuals per year.
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I fear you have not read what has been said. But first let me take you very briefly through selection. Wannabes will be first selected for mentoring, and there are some first class Captains more than willing to undertake and oversee that. But there are a lot of details to go through.
Then there is the question of final selection, that will be done on merit and ability alone. Again we have an extreme of talent to do that.
Now to what we might do. The process will be to assist those wannabes worthy in the eyes of their peers to receive a helping hand in a cash grant. This could be for a part payment of a PPL. It could be for assistance with an IR, it could be to purchase expensive material etc., that in a nutshell is the crux of the matter.
In regard to the whole lot for one or two very good wannabes - in other words a Flying Scolarship - that is entirely dependent on the amount of cash we can generate for the fund. But it won't happen if the fund would be seriously depleted by it.
That idea is the ultimate, requiring a lot of cash but to say that it is unfair is, well, unfair. If PPRuNe aims to be the main source of young pilots for the airlines in the future, then we may find that the airlines will make a major contribution for THAT purpose alone, in which case we have the advantage of some of the best Flight Deck talent in the business. That is where PPRuNe scores hands down.
So just hold the reins for a while. We will sit down and decide, then anything might come out of it, but it will be for the wannabes - and the occassional assistance for the hard-up strivers.
Don't forget, we have all be there. Borrowing here, and borrowing there. It all has to be paid back and sometimes it takes years. We WILL make that burden easier for the best among us. Layabouts and no-hopers will be excluded - quite naturally.
Then there is the question of final selection, that will be done on merit and ability alone. Again we have an extreme of talent to do that.
Now to what we might do. The process will be to assist those wannabes worthy in the eyes of their peers to receive a helping hand in a cash grant. This could be for a part payment of a PPL. It could be for assistance with an IR, it could be to purchase expensive material etc., that in a nutshell is the crux of the matter.
In regard to the whole lot for one or two very good wannabes - in other words a Flying Scolarship - that is entirely dependent on the amount of cash we can generate for the fund. But it won't happen if the fund would be seriously depleted by it.
That idea is the ultimate, requiring a lot of cash but to say that it is unfair is, well, unfair. If PPRuNe aims to be the main source of young pilots for the airlines in the future, then we may find that the airlines will make a major contribution for THAT purpose alone, in which case we have the advantage of some of the best Flight Deck talent in the business. That is where PPRuNe scores hands down.
So just hold the reins for a while. We will sit down and decide, then anything might come out of it, but it will be for the wannabes - and the occassional assistance for the hard-up strivers.
Don't forget, we have all be there. Borrowing here, and borrowing there. It all has to be paid back and sometimes it takes years. We WILL make that burden easier for the best among us. Layabouts and no-hopers will be excluded - quite naturally.
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Smurfjet and V1rotate, thank you for your kind offers. We were hoping to get a link through pprune, that is, set up the registering through the main pprune page, but no one from pprune has yet told us if this can be done.
Myself and buzzoff have had the initial registration of interest form ready since the summer, but we still need to find out whether this can be put onto this site with the link, and have people entering their details and so on. Also, I don't know how myself and buzzoff would then access the information.
Hell, I'm just a pilot, not a computer whizz!!
However, if nothing happens I think we will set the whole thing up as a separate website and hope to get a link from pprune.
Perhaps both of you could e-mail me and let me know if any of this is feasible.
Also, if any pprune moderators are reading, could they please please please get in touch and also let us know whether we can do this through pprune or whether you wish us to set this up on a separate website.
Then we can finally get on with it.
Thanks everyone.
Myself and buzzoff have had the initial registration of interest form ready since the summer, but we still need to find out whether this can be put onto this site with the link, and have people entering their details and so on. Also, I don't know how myself and buzzoff would then access the information.
Hell, I'm just a pilot, not a computer whizz!!
However, if nothing happens I think we will set the whole thing up as a separate website and hope to get a link from pprune.
Perhaps both of you could e-mail me and let me know if any of this is feasible.
Also, if any pprune moderators are reading, could they please please please get in touch and also let us know whether we can do this through pprune or whether you wish us to set this up on a separate website.
Then we can finally get on with it.
Thanks everyone.
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The fund is steadily growing! And is close on £2000 now. It is, therefore, time to recognise some of those who contributed it.
The latest is SENSIBLE who has generously donated £500, a most generous gesture indeed.
Others are:
JP Justice
Dr Syn
A Name (no handle)
StopStart
Biggles FU
A Name
Buttons
IFR
Oldboy
Pancake
Scroggs
Orac
Darren
A.N Other x 5
GirlFlyday
exeng
The Nr Fairy
Thank you so much guys and gals. The Fund is on its way, and that I am really chuffed about. And no matter how large or small the donation, each £1 counts and will be gratefully received, and henceforth acknowledged on this thread.
PPRuNe will make a contribution to many a wannabes career in the near future so PLEASE do keep those pennies rolling in.
From now on, each time the Fund reaches another £1000 pounds I will put in £25.
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The latest is SENSIBLE who has generously donated £500, a most generous gesture indeed.
Others are:
JP Justice
Dr Syn
A Name (no handle)
StopStart
Biggles FU
A Name
Buttons
IFR
Oldboy
Pancake
Scroggs
Orac
Darren
A.N Other x 5
GirlFlyday
exeng
The Nr Fairy
Thank you so much guys and gals. The Fund is on its way, and that I am really chuffed about. And no matter how large or small the donation, each £1 counts and will be gratefully received, and henceforth acknowledged on this thread.
PPRuNe will make a contribution to many a wannabes career in the near future so PLEASE do keep those pennies rolling in.
From now on, each time the Fund reaches another £1000 pounds I will put in £25.
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Just thought I'd let you know that a few more donations have come through the post. Some have paid over the top for PPRuNe badges which is what LowNslow was suggesting.
However, as I mentioned in 'Bashes' there are new badges being made, and although what we have are a 'limited' edition it is your decision to take them but I only have 8 left. 11 are going out today.
Keep the donations coming please. I am looking forward to coughing up another £25 for the next £1000 and all after.
However, as I mentioned in 'Bashes' there are new badges being made, and although what we have are a 'limited' edition it is your decision to take them but I only have 8 left. 11 are going out today.
Keep the donations coming please. I am looking forward to coughing up another £25 for the next £1000 and all after.
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I can't believe I've missed this thread over the last 6 months and, IFR, I should take you to task for not beating everyone individually over the head with it at Gatbash. OK, we were probably too far gone to notice, and you probably did. Sorry!
I'd like to add my name to the list of potential mentors - 9000+ hours, 22 years mil (5000 hrs C130 commander), RAF Bulldog QFI, now B747 SFO with Virgin. Got almost every T-shirt going along the way!
I'd also like to echo the posts above offering a monthly contribution on a deed of covenant if the fund can get charitable status. Or even if it can't! And finally, perhaps IFR could once again publish the address for contributions?
I'd like to add my name to the list of potential mentors - 9000+ hours, 22 years mil (5000 hrs C130 commander), RAF Bulldog QFI, now B747 SFO with Virgin. Got almost every T-shirt going along the way!
I'd also like to echo the posts above offering a monthly contribution on a deed of covenant if the fund can get charitable status. Or even if it can't! And finally, perhaps IFR could once again publish the address for contributions?
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It seems to me that most "Airlines" could probably find the odd "Thousand Pounds" here and there to add to the PPRuNe Fund; seeing as they would ultimately benefit as well as the individual! Perhaps some PPRuNers are in corporate positions to open negotiations - especially if the fund attained "Charitable Status" ie. possible tax incentives...?
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