Routes That Dont Exist But Could Be Proiftable To An Airline
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From post #32:
"Another idea though would be to maybe divert one of the SFO flights or LAX into MAN to carry onto SFO or LAX. Or is that just a plain stupid idea. I think it is"
Thirty years or so ago BA used to do something similar at the other end. The LHR-LAX flight (747-100) continued on to SFO, so the idea isn't completely crazy.
Other multi-stop flights could also make sense. For example late evening LHR-MAN-GLA or LHR-NCL-EDI by BA could be make it possible to do a full afternoon's work on the continent and still get to the outer reaches of the kingdom the same day with full service, while allowing BA to carry a fairly full load out of LHR.
Other routes where a UK carrier should be able to make a profit include Osaka (or possibly even better Kobe) in Japan and Korea. And how about potential growth tourist destinations such as urumqi and Xian in China. An entry point in Western China could give much shorter travel times than going through Beijing or Shanghai.
"Another idea though would be to maybe divert one of the SFO flights or LAX into MAN to carry onto SFO or LAX. Or is that just a plain stupid idea. I think it is"
Thirty years or so ago BA used to do something similar at the other end. The LHR-LAX flight (747-100) continued on to SFO, so the idea isn't completely crazy.
Other multi-stop flights could also make sense. For example late evening LHR-MAN-GLA or LHR-NCL-EDI by BA could be make it possible to do a full afternoon's work on the continent and still get to the outer reaches of the kingdom the same day with full service, while allowing BA to carry a fairly full load out of LHR.
Other routes where a UK carrier should be able to make a profit include Osaka (or possibly even better Kobe) in Japan and Korea. And how about potential growth tourist destinations such as urumqi and Xian in China. An entry point in Western China could give much shorter travel times than going through Beijing or Shanghai.
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i agree,
i dont know why manchester doesnt push for more 'through' routes, ie like saudia already operates RYD-GVA-MAN-GVA-RYD, ok its only getting on average 100px per flight, but you know what i mean.
Looks at Qantas for instance, im sure they could come up from LHR and operate a LHR-MAN-SYD service, same as Virgin, they could do a LHR-MAN-SFO routing......
i think it could work.....
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i dont know why manchester doesnt push for more 'through' routes, ie like saudia already operates RYD-GVA-MAN-GVA-RYD, ok its only getting on average 100px per flight, but you know what i mean.
Looks at Qantas for instance, im sure they could come up from LHR and operate a LHR-MAN-SYD service, same as Virgin, they could do a LHR-MAN-SFO routing......
i think it could work.....
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i dont know why manchester doesnt push for more 'through' routes..... ok its only getting on average 100px per flight
im sure they could come up from LHR and operate a LHR-MAN-SYD service, same as Virgin, they could do a LHR-MAN-SFO routing......
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It amazes me the limited memory span of punters on here. For example why don't QANTAS serve Manchester with a B744 onwards from Heathrow. They used to but found a more profitable way of doing it. They code share on the BA shuttle so they still get the same passengers but don't have to fly a Jumbo on a short haul route to get them !
It's the same reason BA serve so few routes in Asia, they are served onwards from the hubs of their Oneworld partner airlines like JAL and QANTAS.
For the multi landing questions of London flights routing via MAN, that would be commercial suicide as the London market is highly competitive and you want to run a flight that isn't NON STOP and takes over an hour more????? Really?
As for BLK-LCY, that would stand less chance than the recently axed NCL and BHD let's be honest.
It's the same reason BA serve so few routes in Asia, they are served onwards from the hubs of their Oneworld partner airlines like JAL and QANTAS.
For the multi landing questions of London flights routing via MAN, that would be commercial suicide as the London market is highly competitive and you want to run a flight that isn't NON STOP and takes over an hour more????? Really?
As for BLK-LCY, that would stand less chance than the recently axed NCL and BHD let's be honest.
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A flight from Okinawa that's early enough to make a connection with a Europe bound flight in Tokyo or Osaka would make me happy. I always seem to end up losing a day of my trip with an overnight stay in a Japanese airport hotel.
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Alas, I believe we (VB) operated more profitable routes, both as BA and duo
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Alas, I believe we (VB) operated more profitable routes, both as BA and duo
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QF at MAN
Are we forgetting that when QF withdrew, BA in their infinite wisdom decided to operate 737s with flight numbers QF10A/QF9A, overnighting at LHR. BA withdrew those services after a year (or less) as it was "competing with it's own shuttle service"?
I would forget about operating LHR-MAN-anywhere: if there's to be Australia to be featured on the departure board for MAN, a routing along the lines of MAN-BOM-SYD giving an opportunity to market 3 sectors should become profitable I've seen some comments on other forums suggesting that SQ operating MAN-BOM was profitable when they routed some of their services through there)
I would forget about operating LHR-MAN-anywhere: if there's to be Australia to be featured on the departure board for MAN, a routing along the lines of MAN-BOM-SYD giving an opportunity to market 3 sectors should become profitable I've seen some comments on other forums suggesting that SQ operating MAN-BOM was profitable when they routed some of their services through there)
