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Jet22 11th Jun 2008 18:27

Routes That Dont Exist But Could Be Proiftable To An Airline
 
This is the thread where you have you say on routes that you think airlines should do and they are able to make a profit on.

BA-LHR to KUL with a 772 to begin with then move onto a 744
BA-LHR to TPE with a 772 to begin with then move onto a 744

Your suggestions!

Jerbourg 11th Jun 2008 18:36

GCI - LCY twice daily, early am, dept from London & evening dept. from Guernsey. The route is a sure fire winner with the Guernsey banking community crying out for this service.

mmeteesside 11th Jun 2008 18:46

Durham Tees - Lanzarote - not offered in the winter - GSM did it last winter and it did very well. Also Jersey in the winter used to work nicely for bmibaby.
Other destinations include Paris, Rome, Verona/Venice, Toulouse, Prague and Geneva which would all be profitable with the right type of aircraft and fare structure.

dbertman 11th Jun 2008 18:56

Just to be provincial:

DSA to CDG/FRA/AMS with either Air France, Lufthansa or KLM so it is actually possible to fly to a greater range of destinations through connecting flights rather being limited to the small range of lo-co point to point destinations.

northumberlandairway 11th Jun 2008 18:58

NCL to pretty much anywhere in Germany and Northern Italy. Three times a week would do - we're not greedy. Poland other than Krakow might be good too.

ROSSKi MYT 11th Jun 2008 18:58

GLA- SFO/ MIA - GSM 767
GLA- JFk- American 757
GLA- SYD- Wantas 744

Skipness One Echo 11th Jun 2008 19:26

This is the part where spotters with no business acumen spout complete uninformed you mean...........

BA-LHR to KUL with a 772 to begin with then move onto a 744
BA-LHR to TPE with a 772 to begin with then move onto a 744
Lost money and was dropped. BOTH OF THEM.


GCI - LCY
No slots available for a lower yielding route than the current invasion from Edinburgh, Germany and Switzerland.


GLA- SFO/ MIA - GSM 767
GLA- JFk- American 757
GLA- SYD- Wantas 744
The only place Scotland can sell in Florida is Orlando for the kids and Disenyworld.
AA pulled all their JFK long haul B757 ops. MAN was dumped recently.
As for QANTAS B747-400s to Sydney, I mean come on get real. It's a spotters wank fest. Have you seen the price of oil? Even BA are struggling to make real yield on LHR-SYD !

Edited:

mickyman 11th Jun 2008 19:36

This is a thread started by a 15 year old kid

enough said!

mm

HZ123 11th Jun 2008 19:54

I find it a bit rich that some of you older people are rude and insulting to a young person. The title of the thread was clear enough, if you have nothing positive to say then go and do something else. Business acumen in my experience of 40 years in aviation has little to do with anything that airlines management use when make decisions, not unlike the government.

Jet 22 you keep putting up the threads.

Jerbourg 11th Jun 2008 20:22

GCI-LCy would be a high yield route. The Guernsey finance community would swallow a high fare just to avoid using LGW. Believe me.


Also this thread is about what routes we believe should/could be operated your comment about slots "Skipness" is irrelevant..

SOTV 11th Jun 2008 20:25


This is a thread started by a 15 year old kid

enough said!

mm
Bit harsh old boy.

However. How about a 146/TP from Carlisle to London City on a 1/2 out 1/2 in basis daily. Eastern could be a good model for this.

Virgin Trains charge for a 0544 dep/0953arr and a 1808 dep/2143arr the same day a very reasonable £377 business return. They can only charge this rate because of a non existent air alternative.

Of course a local man can do the 90 minute drive and catch the first BA to Heathrow from Newcastle and then slug it out into central London.

Just a thought.

OliWW 11th Jun 2008 20:44

Similar to Luton Really Ryanair and Thomsonfly both go to Marrakesh and those flights are doing fine: therefore I think that

FR 2x Weekly = East Midlands - Marrakesh
FR 2x Weekly = East Midlands - Malta
FR 2x Weekly = East Midlands - Seville
FR 2x Weekly = East Midlands - Fuerterventura
WW Daily = East Midlands - Dusseldorf
WW Daily = East Midlands - Hamburg
WW 2x Weekly = East Midlands - Mahon

I mean, the chances are very slim, but I believe from EMA long haul is becoming worse and worse, no Puerto Plata flight from 09, however, I believe that a weekly Toronto flight would defentally work, with a operator like Air Transat for example and maybe a New York flight, 2-4 times a week.

Skipness One Echo 11th Jun 2008 21:03


Also this thread is about what routes we believe should/could be operated your comment about slots "Skipness" is irrelevant..
If you ignore the real world then it's just pure bloody fantasy. How about a route from your-arse to your-elbow ! Or from Barra to Heathrow Terminal 2 on a BA B757. I'd like to see that !

trebor 11th Jun 2008 21:11

As stated before , this thread was started by a 15 year old.
SKIPNESS :mad::mad::mad:

Mr A Tis 11th Jun 2008 22:35

Yup much better to leave these things to trained business brains that ran BaCon,Silverjet, Air Wales, AV8, Debonair, Euromanx, Amber Air, Paramount, Air Europe, Dan Air, Emerald, Gill Air, & that's just to name a few UK failures. Some of the ones flying now seem to be making bonkers decisions with the inevitable outcomes on the horizon.
Don't think the 15 year old could do any worse than some of the "brains" out there.
If the lad wants to dream a little & others join in, then its a free country ( at the moment), so let him. Anyhow many airlines do encourage SLF to submit route ideas, so there !!! leave the kid alone:cool:

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The Real Slim Shady 11th Jun 2008 22:37

SOTV

Newair looked at Carlisle to Biggin Hill in the 90s.

They claimed they had extensive MR which indicated that every man and his dog would use the service. They offered me a job and I said, No Way Pancho it wont work.

They lasted, maybe, 3 months.

airvanman 12th Jun 2008 02:17

Oxford - EDI,BHD,DUB,AMS etc, etc.. In a large catchment area doing nothing. Just had the runway done up.

:8Get a few ex SAS cheap -8s, Stick a few PortaKabins together for a terminal, cheap parking, give a nice freindly local service better than the soulless big airports.

Call it Morse Air ;)

Easy as p*ss this airline game! Oh... do keep an eye on the -8 wheels!

wingeel 12th Jun 2008 02:37

Skipness One Echo
 
Has AA dumped MAN ? I thought that MAN-ORD had been reduced to 5 x weekly for the winter. Or are you referring to the BOS service ?

jet_air 12th Jun 2008 05:48

CMB-BLR-DXB A 320/ B 738 Daytime.
BOM-TRZ-SIN A 320/ B 738 Any time.

Both Bangalore and Trichy have huge pottential due to growth in I.T. , Agricultural and Heavy Machinery Sectors. And if any airline realises the pottential in this route then it would hit a Jack Pot !

Bangalore has just opened its New Airport.
And Trichy is undergoing an massive expansion with the Rwy 09/27 beeing extended upto 12,500 feet with already loads of regional operators flying in and out their single aisle jets out of this airport with full capacity.

Jet22 12th Jun 2008 07:24


This is a thread started by a 15 year old kid

enough said!
Cant read then.If you read the thread title it says 'Routes that dont exsist but could be proiftable'

Because i am only 15 dosnt mean i dont understand the basics of Avation world aswell as a bit of the business side.


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