A380 - combined threads
There were two out on the ramp (SE corner of airport) Monday evening, one with the Airbus paint scheme (tail) and the other was in all white - would that be number one and two respectively?
Also one or two others out on the tarmac by the main assembly halls to the NW of the airport so things are certainly progressing.
Also one or two others out on the tarmac by the main assembly halls to the NW of the airport so things are certainly progressing.
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this aircraft is MSN004 the forth bus off the production line, MSN 002/003 are being kept on the ground for interior testing, MSN001 as you well know made the maiden flight a few months back,
everything seems to be going ok for the A380 team at the moment, i hear they are ahead in testing
cheers
scott waterworth
everything seems to be going ok for the A380 team at the moment, i hear they are ahead in testing
cheers
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Nr. 4 is coming
I just read in a news release that due to engine-problems nr. 4 will visit Frankfurt. One engine of Nr. 1 was replaced and the reinstallation of test equipment will take some time. Here's the link (sorry, its in german, couldn't find one in english language):
Engine replacement
Engine replacement
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google translation:-
Press release conveys of directnews. For contents of this press release alone the reporting enterprise or the reporting institution is responsible.
A 380 has problems with an engine
F.A.Z. FRANKFURT, 28 October. With the new large-capacity aircraft A380 problems with the engine arose. The Frankfurt general newspaper (expenditure for Saturday) reports. Therefore the European manufacturer airbus on Saturday another test flight things than planned to Frankfurt airport sending, where different maneuvers and process at the soil are to be tried out. To information of this newspaper it had come on Thursday to technical problems with one of the two A380-Maschinen tested at present. The test flights of both airplanes - both the number 1 as well as the number 4 - are to have been broken off. About it high-level personnel is to have been informed on late Thursday by E-Mail. On Saturday now the A380 with the manufacturer number 4 is planned the number 1 to Frankfurt to fly, not as before.
A spokeswoman von Airbus in Toulouse confirmed that at test flight things number 1 was arisen "with an inspection a problem". "preventive" one exchanged this engine, which comes from the manufacturer Rolls-Royce, now. It did not want to confirm rumors, to which it had come to a fire in the engine. Due to the complex installation of test equipments at the new engine stick the A380 number 1 now only once at the soil, said it. So far it was intended that he starts in the next week to test flights to Singapore, Kuala Lumpur and Australia. In the schedule for it nothing is to change, was called it in Toulouse.
Contentwise further inquiries arrange you please:
Frankfurt general newspaper Mr. Jahn Tel.: 0049 (0)69-75 91-14 40
Press release conveys of directnews. For contents of this press release alone the reporting enterprise or the reporting institution is responsible.
A 380 has problems with an engine
F.A.Z. FRANKFURT, 28 October. With the new large-capacity aircraft A380 problems with the engine arose. The Frankfurt general newspaper (expenditure for Saturday) reports. Therefore the European manufacturer airbus on Saturday another test flight things than planned to Frankfurt airport sending, where different maneuvers and process at the soil are to be tried out. To information of this newspaper it had come on Thursday to technical problems with one of the two A380-Maschinen tested at present. The test flights of both airplanes - both the number 1 as well as the number 4 - are to have been broken off. About it high-level personnel is to have been informed on late Thursday by E-Mail. On Saturday now the A380 with the manufacturer number 4 is planned the number 1 to Frankfurt to fly, not as before.
A spokeswoman von Airbus in Toulouse confirmed that at test flight things number 1 was arisen "with an inspection a problem". "preventive" one exchanged this engine, which comes from the manufacturer Rolls-Royce, now. It did not want to confirm rumors, to which it had come to a fire in the engine. Due to the complex installation of test equipments at the new engine stick the A380 number 1 now only once at the soil, said it. So far it was intended that he starts in the next week to test flights to Singapore, Kuala Lumpur and Australia. In the schedule for it nothing is to change, was called it in Toulouse.
Contentwise further inquiries arrange you please:
Frankfurt general newspaper Mr. Jahn Tel.: 0049 (0)69-75 91-14 40
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Weekend is over, and this happened during the visit of the A380:
Loads of local spotters feel a bit kidded because 30 min before scheduled landing the runway was changed from 07 to 25. I don't know the reason for the change but there must have been a good one (change of wind direction perhaps :-)), they wouldn't change only to get rid of some people with cameras as some assume on their local forum.
Nearly all tests were going well, but this is a topic which is covered by a lot of the media.
Nr. 4 left frankfurt at 9:25 with one extra round over frankfurt, but try to see a white plane in fog, haha, i image i heard it but since it is said to be so quiet i think i heard the SAS leaving to Stockholm (MD 80)
Regards from FRA
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ps: oh, i forgot, fraport calculated with about 50.000 visitors, but only 5.000-10.000 (depends on the source of the estimation) came to the A380. They should change the reg to F-WPIF (white plane in fog)
Loads of local spotters feel a bit kidded because 30 min before scheduled landing the runway was changed from 07 to 25. I don't know the reason for the change but there must have been a good one (change of wind direction perhaps :-)), they wouldn't change only to get rid of some people with cameras as some assume on their local forum.
Nearly all tests were going well, but this is a topic which is covered by a lot of the media.
Nr. 4 left frankfurt at 9:25 with one extra round over frankfurt, but try to see a white plane in fog, haha, i image i heard it but since it is said to be so quiet i think i heard the SAS leaving to Stockholm (MD 80)
Regards from FRA
hanx
ps: oh, i forgot, fraport calculated with about 50.000 visitors, but only 5.000-10.000 (depends on the source of the estimation) came to the A380. They should change the reg to F-WPIF (white plane in fog)
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Viewing areas at brisbane for the A380
Hi Guys,
I am heading the BNE for the first landing of the A380 in Australia on the 11th of november.
I know it lands in the eavening of the 11th and was wondering if any pprune members know of any good viewing areas at brisbane Intl
Inside the terminal is ok but would rather be outside if possible.
Any info would be great.
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I am heading the BNE for the first landing of the A380 in Australia on the 11th of november.
I know it lands in the eavening of the 11th and was wondering if any pprune members know of any good viewing areas at brisbane Intl
Inside the terminal is ok but would rather be outside if possible.
Any info would be great.
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3rd Airbus A380 Takes to the air
The 3rd Airbus A380 to take to the sky's, did so yesterday the 3rd November.
Aircraft MSN 002 flew for 3 hours, yesterday afternoon.
The tour of Asia and Australia has been delayed, aircraft due to arrive in Singapore on 11th November, instead of the 8th.
This is due to two engines being changed at the request of Rolls-Royce after an earlier change.
The aircraft tour of Australia will be unchanged.
Details on the Airbus web site.
Aircraft MSN 002 flew for 3 hours, yesterday afternoon.
The tour of Asia and Australia has been delayed, aircraft due to arrive in Singapore on 11th November, instead of the 8th.
This is due to two engines being changed at the request of Rolls-Royce after an earlier change.
The aircraft tour of Australia will be unchanged.
Details on the Airbus web site.
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F-WXXL landed for the first time in Hamburg (EDHI) today 1319z. It was welcomed by the German head of Airbus and lots of Airbus workers and spotters as well It will get interior for ~500 pax with subsequent test flights.
It will get interior for ~500 pax with subsequent test flights.
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A380 is louder than assumed
THERE WILL BE NO QC 2 FOR YOU
A380 is louder than assumed
Media: Frankfurter Rundschau
Author: Wolfgang Schubert
Date: 05 November 2005
Fraport and expansion opponents present results of measurements/not tested in normal every-day conditions
The Airbus A 380 was as loud as a Boeing jumbo jet 747 during the test landing in Frankfurt a week ago. Moreover the [A380] causes dangerous wake vortices because of its size, communicated the German aircraft noise monitoring organization on Friday in its measurement results. Fraport confirmed the measuring data to a large extent.
Frankfurt • "The shouts of joy [about the A380] are to be referred to the land of fairytales", said Sascha Friebe, chairman of the German aircraft noise monitoring organization (DFLD). Lufthansa managers, airport CEO William Bender, Minister President Roland Koch and Chief Burgomaster of Frankfurt Petra Roth had talked about a "quiet giant bird” after the landing before 10,000 spectators last Saturday, which flew in "like a glider."
The measurements of the aircraft noise service in Moerfelden Walldorf, which considers itself as an "independent non--governmental organization" and is predominantly organized in the airport development opposition, show the opposite. The mega-airplane, which should have been three to four decibels quieter than the largest passenger airplane the Boeing 747-400 according to manufacturer data, was as loud as other large-capacity aircraft during the landing. The measuring instrument of DFLD registered 67 decibels over Neu-Isenburg south of Frankfurt.
The noise might have been even stronger. On Friday airport operator Fraport submitted its own results of measurement, which are even higher than those of the DFLD. For Offenbach-Bieber Fraport indicated 70.3 decibels, in Offenbach-Lauterborn was it 71.8, in Frankfurt-South 75.3 and at level of the Stadtwaldhaus just before touch down 82.3. In comparative values with a 747 plane, which had landed during the same morning, were only lower at the Stadtwaldhaus. In Frankfurt-South and in Offenbach-Lauterborn the A 380 was substantially louder
During takeoff, Fraport registered values that were below those of the 747. The Airbus however only weighed 400 tons. If it would be fully occupied for a flight to Tokyo and would have been refueled, the plane would have weighed 560 tons and would have been much louder than the 65.7 decibels over Raunheim and the 74.5 over Weilbach.
Fraport emphasized however that the measured values of only one landing and one takeoff of a prototype is not representative. The test plane was even equipped with measuring instruments at the fuselage and the wings, which would have caused additional surge noises.
The aircraft noise monitoring organization criticized also that the A 380 was not tested under everyday life conditions. The air traffic control (DFS) granted the pilots "ideal landing conditions". The distance to the next jet for instance was with ten miles so large that the A 380 could land "with low speed and therefore quietly". DFS spokesperson Axel Raab said, they had opted for a large distance for safety reasons because of possible turbulence.
Those are extremely large according to data of the DFLD. The A 380 has caused, "a good two minute tornado with noise values of about 70 decibels," said Friebe. Such turbulence he has “never experienced". If the plane would have flown very low over Raunheim, “the roofs would have blown off".
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I wonder how that PAX Evac test is stacking up?
A380 is louder than assumed
Media: Frankfurter Rundschau
Author: Wolfgang Schubert
Date: 05 November 2005
Fraport and expansion opponents present results of measurements/not tested in normal every-day conditions
The Airbus A 380 was as loud as a Boeing jumbo jet 747 during the test landing in Frankfurt a week ago. Moreover the [A380] causes dangerous wake vortices because of its size, communicated the German aircraft noise monitoring organization on Friday in its measurement results. Fraport confirmed the measuring data to a large extent.
Frankfurt • "The shouts of joy [about the A380] are to be referred to the land of fairytales", said Sascha Friebe, chairman of the German aircraft noise monitoring organization (DFLD). Lufthansa managers, airport CEO William Bender, Minister President Roland Koch and Chief Burgomaster of Frankfurt Petra Roth had talked about a "quiet giant bird” after the landing before 10,000 spectators last Saturday, which flew in "like a glider."
The measurements of the aircraft noise service in Moerfelden Walldorf, which considers itself as an "independent non--governmental organization" and is predominantly organized in the airport development opposition, show the opposite. The mega-airplane, which should have been three to four decibels quieter than the largest passenger airplane the Boeing 747-400 according to manufacturer data, was as loud as other large-capacity aircraft during the landing. The measuring instrument of DFLD registered 67 decibels over Neu-Isenburg south of Frankfurt.
The noise might have been even stronger. On Friday airport operator Fraport submitted its own results of measurement, which are even higher than those of the DFLD. For Offenbach-Bieber Fraport indicated 70.3 decibels, in Offenbach-Lauterborn was it 71.8, in Frankfurt-South 75.3 and at level of the Stadtwaldhaus just before touch down 82.3. In comparative values with a 747 plane, which had landed during the same morning, were only lower at the Stadtwaldhaus. In Frankfurt-South and in Offenbach-Lauterborn the A 380 was substantially louder
During takeoff, Fraport registered values that were below those of the 747. The Airbus however only weighed 400 tons. If it would be fully occupied for a flight to Tokyo and would have been refueled, the plane would have weighed 560 tons and would have been much louder than the 65.7 decibels over Raunheim and the 74.5 over Weilbach.
Fraport emphasized however that the measured values of only one landing and one takeoff of a prototype is not representative. The test plane was even equipped with measuring instruments at the fuselage and the wings, which would have caused additional surge noises.
The aircraft noise monitoring organization criticized also that the A 380 was not tested under everyday life conditions. The air traffic control (DFS) granted the pilots "ideal landing conditions". The distance to the next jet for instance was with ten miles so large that the A 380 could land "with low speed and therefore quietly". DFS spokesperson Axel Raab said, they had opted for a large distance for safety reasons because of possible turbulence.
Those are extremely large according to data of the DFLD. The A 380 has caused, "a good two minute tornado with noise values of about 70 decibels," said Friebe. Such turbulence he has “never experienced". If the plane would have flown very low over Raunheim, “the roofs would have blown off".
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I wonder how that PAX Evac test is stacking up?
Your usual ill-informed BS, 747 F***all.
The full scale A380 passenger evacuation test is due to be conducted early next year. Hopefully the US made escape slides will work OK.
The full scale A380 passenger evacuation test is due to be conducted early next year. Hopefully the US made escape slides will work OK.
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Hey that looks like it came out of a German newspaper to me. I just posted it.
Personally, I don't think it would matter who made the slides. Airbus will never get 873 PAX off of that airplane in 90 seconds.
Personally, I don't think it would matter who made the slides. Airbus will never get 873 PAX off of that airplane in 90 seconds.