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5by5, Why have your fellow Arab people not donated a small percentage of their OIL WEALTH to support their brothers with aid? The poverty problems in Gaza can be eliminated in a week, but nothing like this has been done in over 50 years.
And why no OIL AID to Afghanistan, Sudan, Chad or other impoverished brother nations?
My guess is that you all are addicted to causing trouble (Jihad, revolution, call it what you will) rather than preventing it.
And why no OIL AID to Afghanistan, Sudan, Chad or other impoverished brother nations?
My guess is that you all are addicted to causing trouble (Jihad, revolution, call it what you will) rather than preventing it.
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Just one more question to our Arab/Palestinian brothers.
What make of cars do you drive, what make of computers do you use, what make of mobile phones do you have,what make of television/hi-fi (if allowed) do you have, what make of airplanes does your airline use, what.........???
What make of cars do you drive, what make of computers do you use, what make of mobile phones do you have,what make of television/hi-fi (if allowed) do you have, what make of airplanes does your airline use, what.........???
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ONTpax - If, as you write, "kicking butt" and "B-52s were rearranging Hanoi", means bombing, burning, and terrorising little girls - just what kind of moral stance is that then ? and all this from the land of the brave and home of the free ? Don’t make me laugh mate !
And whilst we're at it, lets have a little reminder of American foreign policy shall we :
Roc - Nobody expect the USA or the West to do anything, it's they who want to stick their noses into business which is really not theirs for no other reason than because they wish to defend their way of life, courtesy of a cheap and regular supply of oil. Along the way they'll prop-up no end of tyrants, in order to ensure that the price of a gallon if gas stays pretty much as it is.
In the round, it would seem a case that many just don't understand cause and effect, in that nobody expects free hand-outs - indeed is there such a thing ? - because they nearly always come with strings attached, and particularly so when given from the Western governments of USA/GB/France.
Cat Driver - If by a "show me another country that has given so much to the world as the U.S.A" you mean, their crap / non-existent culture, their crap ideals (see above), and being the most polluting country on the face of this Earth, then I'd have to agree with you !
Mischief - see above, about despots.
Mentaleena - If your measure of culture is entirely dependant upon which car, computer, mobile phone, television, hi-fi, or aircraft one uses, then I'm afraid to say that you really should take stock of your overly materialistic values, and the phrase 'morally bankrupt' comes immediately to mind.
Techman - You took the words out of my mouth.
And whilst we're at it, lets have a little reminder of American foreign policy shall we :
Roc - Nobody expect the USA or the West to do anything, it's they who want to stick their noses into business which is really not theirs for no other reason than because they wish to defend their way of life, courtesy of a cheap and regular supply of oil. Along the way they'll prop-up no end of tyrants, in order to ensure that the price of a gallon if gas stays pretty much as it is.
In the round, it would seem a case that many just don't understand cause and effect, in that nobody expects free hand-outs - indeed is there such a thing ? - because they nearly always come with strings attached, and particularly so when given from the Western governments of USA/GB/France.
Cat Driver - If by a "show me another country that has given so much to the world as the U.S.A" you mean, their crap / non-existent culture, their crap ideals (see above), and being the most polluting country on the face of this Earth, then I'd have to agree with you !
Mischief - see above, about despots.
Mentaleena - If your measure of culture is entirely dependant upon which car, computer, mobile phone, television, hi-fi, or aircraft one uses, then I'm afraid to say that you really should take stock of your overly materialistic values, and the phrase 'morally bankrupt' comes immediately to mind.
Techman - You took the words out of my mouth.
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Its called War, its ugly and brutal...By the way, the young girl in that picture is now an AMERICAN citizen, who loves this country and is raising a family here! I have no personal anomosity towards you or Palestinians, I take no sides in your conflict with Israel. It just frustrates me that you'd all would rather live in fear, than settle your differences. I just can't stomach people who expect a hand-out. In a recent interview with the Northern Alliance leader who was killed on 9 Sept, he was complaining how after the Russians left Afghanistan, the US didn't do anything to supply aid to help rebuild afghanistan, hence we have the situation we have today. We supplied them with arms and training to aid their efforts, and now we have to rebuild their country!!!!!where is it written that the US has to do this? Whats the matter? can't figure it out yourself? give me a break, you all talk like tough guys, yet you act like little schoolgirls. The point about using Arab-oil monies is valid, what about OBL and his millions, what has he done to foster peace in the Middle East? Hell, the Kuwaiti's have alot more money than the average American, go ask them for aid. Good Luck, I mean that, keep on hating America, I'll be surfing at the beach, eating a burger, and listening to some good ole Rock and Roll.
Its called War, its ugly and brutal...By the way, the young girl in that picture is now an AMERICAN citizen, who loves this country and is raising a family here! I have no personal anomosity towards you or Palestinians, I take no sides in your conflict with Israel. It just frustrates me that you'd all would rather live in fear, than settle your differences. I just can't stomach people who expect a hand-out. In a recent interview with the Northern Alliance leader who was killed on 9 Sept, he was complaining how after the Russians left Afghanistan, the US didn't do anything to supply aid to help rebuild afghanistan, hence we have the situation we have today. We supplied them with arms and training to aid their efforts, and now we have to rebuild their country!!!!!where is it written that the US has to do this? Whats the matter? can't figure it out yourself? give me a break, you all talk like tough guys, yet you act like little schoolgirls. The point about using Arab-oil monies is valid, what about OBL and his millions, what has he done to foster peace in the Middle East? Hell, the Kuwaiti's have alot more money than the average American, go ask them for aid. Good Luck, I mean that, keep on hating America, I'll be surfing at the beach, eating a burger, and listening to some good ole Rock and Roll.
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So if 'Its called War, its ugly and brutal' that must mean then that it's ok to fly a crowded airliner in to a crowded skyscraper - coz you can't have it both ways, can you ?! After all, one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.
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"So if 'Its called War, its ugly and brutal' that must mean then that it's ok to fly a crowded airliner in to a crowded skyscraper ....."
If so, you disgust me.
What I find extremely worrying is that someone with your views is (apparently) a pilot with a British carrier - recalling your detailed posts on the recent discussion: BA sells Go for £100m
I note you said in June you were leaving Go. Hope to God you haven't joined us.
Flying across the pond with someone with such an extreme and obsessive hatred of America and all it stands for is something I can do without.
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We have spent the better part of the last 20 years protecting the Arab/muzlims from the rest of the world.
They must be the worst soldiers on earth, they start a war and promptly lose it and we are called into protect them. We just spent over 50 billion dollars in boznia to keep one million muzlims from being slaughtered by milosovitch, they REPEATEDLY start wars with Israel and lose those wars, we hardly supported israel at all till the 73 war, and even then it was in return for them not taking Cairo, all of Jordan, etc...
We forced them to give back the Sinai, lebanon etc. I thought those were good ideas at the time, now I think not.
There already is a Palestinian state. Its called JORDAN. Isreal now has a peace treaty with them, but that country's first act was to declare war on Isreal. They did it again and again. The west bank was part of Jordan originally. Well, Jordan lost it in its repeated stupid wars with Israel and then signed it away at the negotiating table. The Palestinians should be repatriated to Jordan where they belong, but of course the Jordanians don't want em either. Why should it be Isreal's problem?
It is time to let the Muslim extremist actually lose a few wars rather than intervening before the logical conclusion of war (Remeber what the USSR did in Germany at the end of the war? What North Vietnam did to South Vietnam etc? What the Muslims would do to us if they had the chance? What the Taliban did to Afganistan) They have been playing their stupid games for years without consequences. Take the gloves off of Isreal.
As to oil, maybe we can get enough from Russia if we help them exploit it. I would happily pay 25 dollars a barrel for Oil to Russia rather than 15 to any ******* land where the keep promising Jihad.
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They must be the worst soldiers on earth, they start a war and promptly lose it and we are called into protect them. We just spent over 50 billion dollars in boznia to keep one million muzlims from being slaughtered by milosovitch, they REPEATEDLY start wars with Israel and lose those wars, we hardly supported israel at all till the 73 war, and even then it was in return for them not taking Cairo, all of Jordan, etc...
We forced them to give back the Sinai, lebanon etc. I thought those were good ideas at the time, now I think not.
There already is a Palestinian state. Its called JORDAN. Isreal now has a peace treaty with them, but that country's first act was to declare war on Isreal. They did it again and again. The west bank was part of Jordan originally. Well, Jordan lost it in its repeated stupid wars with Israel and then signed it away at the negotiating table. The Palestinians should be repatriated to Jordan where they belong, but of course the Jordanians don't want em either. Why should it be Isreal's problem?
It is time to let the Muslim extremist actually lose a few wars rather than intervening before the logical conclusion of war (Remeber what the USSR did in Germany at the end of the war? What North Vietnam did to South Vietnam etc? What the Muslims would do to us if they had the chance? What the Taliban did to Afganistan) They have been playing their stupid games for years without consequences. Take the gloves off of Isreal.
As to oil, maybe we can get enough from Russia if we help them exploit it. I would happily pay 25 dollars a barrel for Oil to Russia rather than 15 to any ******* land where the keep promising Jihad.
Cheers
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To those that think that the U.S. should pull out of the affairs between Isreal and the Palestinians, I would ask you this: Just how long do you think that the Palestinians would last if Isreal wasn't worried about upsetting the U.S. with their actions? Does anyone really think that Isreal wouldn't wipe them all out in a week? The Palestinians owe more to the U.S. than they think!
As to political correct speech, I invite you all to pick up a copy of "The New Thought Police" by Tammy Bruce, who herself is politically left, but she recognizes the dangers of P.C.ism. Interesting book!
As to political correct speech, I invite you all to pick up a copy of "The New Thought Police" by Tammy Bruce, who herself is politically left, but she recognizes the dangers of P.C.ism. Interesting book!
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Well said Wino.
Cheap oil ain't worth the price we are paying.
Let Saddam have Kuwait and Saudi next time.
Let them Arabs fight and back-stab each other, they only seem to be happy when they can kill and blow up people in the name of some fantasy figure named Allah.
Put a big fence around the whole region and make sure none of the terrorist rag-heads escape. We sure have no use for them in the Western world. Screw 'em and their oil.
Cheap oil ain't worth the price we are paying.
Let Saddam have Kuwait and Saudi next time.
Let them Arabs fight and back-stab each other, they only seem to be happy when they can kill and blow up people in the name of some fantasy figure named Allah.
Put a big fence around the whole region and make sure none of the terrorist rag-heads escape. We sure have no use for them in the Western world. Screw 'em and their oil.
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One as bad as the other in my view.
The biggest difference is the Israelis are far better at PR and, almost 60 years later, still use the holocaust as a trump card to justify their acts of terrorism against Palestinians in the occupied territories. The old line of "We're only defending ourselves" has worn so thin it's transparent to most thinking people.
I have the utmost admiration for the US and all it stands for. Great shame its foreign policy in the Middle East is so pro-Israeli because of the enormous Zionist lobby which prevents rational thinking.
The biggest difference is the Israelis are far better at PR and, almost 60 years later, still use the holocaust as a trump card to justify their acts of terrorism against Palestinians in the occupied territories. The old line of "We're only defending ourselves" has worn so thin it's transparent to most thinking people.
I have the utmost admiration for the US and all it stands for. Great shame its foreign policy in the Middle East is so pro-Israeli because of the enormous Zionist lobby which prevents rational thinking.
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Just a small point, where on earth did you get so brilliant at analysing people?
I said to you:
"What make of cars do you drive, what make of computers do you use, what make of mobile phones do you have,what make of television/hi-fi (if allowed) do you have, what make of airplanes does your airline use?"
You said to me:
"If your measure of culture is entirely dependant upon which car, computer, mobile phone, television, hi-fi, or aircraft one uses, then I'm afraid to say that you really should take stock of your overly materialistic values, and the phrase 'morally bankrupt' comes immediately to mind."
I say to you - JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION!
Don't try and be too clever mate. You know jack sh*t about me, let alone TELLING me I am materialistic.
So how do you drive to work then on a fuc*in camel?
Just a small point, where on earth did you get so brilliant at analysing people?
I said to you:
"What make of cars do you drive, what make of computers do you use, what make of mobile phones do you have,what make of television/hi-fi (if allowed) do you have, what make of airplanes does your airline use?"
You said to me:
"If your measure of culture is entirely dependant upon which car, computer, mobile phone, television, hi-fi, or aircraft one uses, then I'm afraid to say that you really should take stock of your overly materialistic values, and the phrase 'morally bankrupt' comes immediately to mind."
I say to you - JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION!
Don't try and be too clever mate. You know jack sh*t about me, let alone TELLING me I am materialistic.
So how do you drive to work then on a fuc*in camel?
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Well for starters some of you might like to go and (re)read the big red print at the bottom of each page.
As in, I am not actually a Palestinian and thus far what I've written was designed to weedle out a response from those amongst us who exhibit what might be described as somewhat bigoted and xenophobic veiws, e.g. (and to answer a question) No, Mentaleena, I don't actually 'drive to work on a fuc*in camel' (sic), I actually use a very nice british built LandRover - but I'm sure you (now) see my point.
That said, and judging from some of the replies, and speed with which some leap to judgements, is it any wonder that the world's in the state that it is ?!
Ho hum.... can I have my hook back now mister ?
As in, I am not actually a Palestinian and thus far what I've written was designed to weedle out a response from those amongst us who exhibit what might be described as somewhat bigoted and xenophobic veiws, e.g. (and to answer a question) No, Mentaleena, I don't actually 'drive to work on a fuc*in camel' (sic), I actually use a very nice british built LandRover - but I'm sure you (now) see my point.
That said, and judging from some of the replies, and speed with which some leap to judgements, is it any wonder that the world's in the state that it is ?!
Ho hum.... can I have my hook back now mister ?
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You really lost any support you had on this issue with your statement about flying a jetliner into the World Trade Center is somehow analogous to the picture of the young girl running from a B-52 strike.
As a military pilot, let me enlighten you! first whatever the mission was of that B-52 it was undoubtably a military target. Said target was ringed with AAA weoponry, SAM sites, and other military defences. The B-52 pilots were therefore flying into a combat zone, knowing they would be targeted by said defences, therefore their actions, flying into the face of danger can be called Heroic, Brave, dedicated...the fact that that young girl was caught in the middle of this was unfortunate, and most Americans feel quite sad when viewing that picture. That is why its so famous, its also why I know what eventually happened to that girl.
Now the people who hijacked the airliners, knew they were walking into a situation where nobody on those jets were armed, they slit the throats of the Female flight attendents...cause I guess they figured they might be able to beat up a few girls, then they killed the pilots in cold blood...they then turned on the Twin Towers, No SAMS, NO AAA..easy targets...they didn't kill combatants, they killed office workers..secrataries, businessmen with no means of defending themselves...So they are cowards...plain and simple...We call them "yellow" here in the States. We have also witnessed the true heroism of the same "Islamic warriors" when confronted by a real armed force, not women, and their actions speak louder than words!!! never in the history of warfare has such a pathetic display of military ineptitude been showcased, It should be an emabarassment!the only thing a true military needs when fighting these jokers, is plenty of MRE's to feed them after they surrender. Now, back to flying subjects...
You really lost any support you had on this issue with your statement about flying a jetliner into the World Trade Center is somehow analogous to the picture of the young girl running from a B-52 strike.
As a military pilot, let me enlighten you! first whatever the mission was of that B-52 it was undoubtably a military target. Said target was ringed with AAA weoponry, SAM sites, and other military defences. The B-52 pilots were therefore flying into a combat zone, knowing they would be targeted by said defences, therefore their actions, flying into the face of danger can be called Heroic, Brave, dedicated...the fact that that young girl was caught in the middle of this was unfortunate, and most Americans feel quite sad when viewing that picture. That is why its so famous, its also why I know what eventually happened to that girl.
Now the people who hijacked the airliners, knew they were walking into a situation where nobody on those jets were armed, they slit the throats of the Female flight attendents...cause I guess they figured they might be able to beat up a few girls, then they killed the pilots in cold blood...they then turned on the Twin Towers, No SAMS, NO AAA..easy targets...they didn't kill combatants, they killed office workers..secrataries, businessmen with no means of defending themselves...So they are cowards...plain and simple...We call them "yellow" here in the States. We have also witnessed the true heroism of the same "Islamic warriors" when confronted by a real armed force, not women, and their actions speak louder than words!!! never in the history of warfare has such a pathetic display of military ineptitude been showcased, It should be an emabarassment!the only thing a true military needs when fighting these jokers, is plenty of MRE's to feed them after they surrender. Now, back to flying subjects...
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Roc - First of all, I'm not looking for support - you might be, but I'm not as in, I've got my point of view, and you've got yours - after all it's democracy (warts and all) right ?!
Nb. Before you slate me for saying the above, it's not being un-patriotic, it's not being subversive, moreover in all of my above postings I'm more interested in raising the consciousness of our thoughts and actions. E.g. just a few hundred years ago here in the UK it used to be thought that burning of folks at the stake for Heresy was a 'just punishment', but we've since moved onwards to no longer believe that this is appropriate; well, at least some of us have.
Now with respect to being yellow, I imagine that we're talking about the same shade of yellow that we here in the UK call those USA based IRA sympathisers who've, for years, been bank-rolling the IRA terrorists (well that's how we see them in the UK - of course they see themselves as 'freedom fighters') in their 'war' against the 'imperialists' of the UK - e.g. what about some of those obscene (in UK eyes) IRA contingents present in many a USA St.Patricks day parade ? ; and one might say that it's with some satisfaction (and dare I say it, in that it's probably as a direct result of Sept 11th, that many within the USA having now had a taste of what it's like to be on the receiving end of such sudden and murderous outrage, e.g. of the kind which we in the Europe have been suffering for years) that the cash flow to the IRA Terrorist's has seemingly dried up; indeed to such an extent that it seems to be tipping the IRA's balance towards 'Jaw, not War' - let's hope so !
In any event the fact that, as you wrote, whatever the mission was of that B-52 it was undoubtedly a military target. Said target was ringed with AAA weaponry, SAM sites, and other military defences. The B-52 pilots were therefore flying into a combat zone, knowing they would be targeted by said defences, therefore their actions, flying into the face of danger can be called Heroic, Brave, dedicated... and yet within that said same target they knowingly bombed civilians (i.e. you yourself used the phrase 'ringed' - well just what did you think was in the middle ?) - see the picture above - makes it all the more obscene, indeed to the extent that your so called, and pompous, heroism disgusts me !
Imho, flying at high altitude, opening the bomb doors, and dropping your 'dumb' bombs on to your (who knows what) target, is just NOT the same as looking the person / child in the eye and killing / maiming them !
E.g. Would the self same pilot willingly pour Napalm over children if he/she was on the ground and facing them ? Me thinks not; which sort of proves that, SAM's aside, with the luxury of several miles of air between you and your 'target', it's surely (obviously) a lot easier to do. Plus, much like those terrorists of Sept 11th, you are of course, "just following ze orders !" which, palatable or not, is also what the guards at Aushwitz, Buchenwald, Belsen, etc, said in their defence.
Also, when you write 'the fact that the young girl was caught in the middle of this was unfortunate' (of course what she has since done with her life in no way sanctions what was done to her way back when by a USA bomber crew), is that the same as the military euphemism for 'collateral damage' ? because one can be certain that this is the exact same rationale that OBL uses to justify his ends - as indeed as do the IRA, UDA, ETA, (to name but some, e.g. see: http://www.terrorism.net/groups/ - it's amazing what you can find on the net ! ).
I.e. I'm sure that you'd feel just fine-and-dandy about it if it was your child / sibling who was assaulted as such (e.g. limbs blown off, blinded, killed), and you'd accordingly simply turn the other cheek, forgive and forget, etc (queue the Lords Prayer), e.g. what about that young boy (Muhammad Al Durah, 12yrs) who was shot dead / murdered whilst sheltering, terrified, behind his father who was trying to shield him after they became caught under Israeli fire near Netzarim in the Gaza Strip (and whose murder was subsequently reported by many a USA based network as 'caught in cross-fire - yeah, right ! - e.g. that's not how the French media reported it), i.e. what would you do if you were his father / brother / uncle ?
E.g. Let's remind ourselves:
And don’t kid yourself, the above is a direct result of what Western foreign policy can do (when you see the big picture, et al).
Now don't get me wrong, I'm no pacifist, i.e. If you harmed just one hair of any of MY children's heads then I'd hunt you down and kill you like the scum that you are ! (nb. I'm writing that as a turn of phrase, i.e. it's not aimed at anybody personally) as I'm sure that you would me, in the reciprocal position - and accordingly one can surely see how conflicts both start and promulgate.
So, what's to do ?
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Nb. Before you slate me for saying the above, it's not being un-patriotic, it's not being subversive, moreover in all of my above postings I'm more interested in raising the consciousness of our thoughts and actions. E.g. just a few hundred years ago here in the UK it used to be thought that burning of folks at the stake for Heresy was a 'just punishment', but we've since moved onwards to no longer believe that this is appropriate; well, at least some of us have.
Now with respect to being yellow, I imagine that we're talking about the same shade of yellow that we here in the UK call those USA based IRA sympathisers who've, for years, been bank-rolling the IRA terrorists (well that's how we see them in the UK - of course they see themselves as 'freedom fighters') in their 'war' against the 'imperialists' of the UK - e.g. what about some of those obscene (in UK eyes) IRA contingents present in many a USA St.Patricks day parade ? ; and one might say that it's with some satisfaction (and dare I say it, in that it's probably as a direct result of Sept 11th, that many within the USA having now had a taste of what it's like to be on the receiving end of such sudden and murderous outrage, e.g. of the kind which we in the Europe have been suffering for years) that the cash flow to the IRA Terrorist's has seemingly dried up; indeed to such an extent that it seems to be tipping the IRA's balance towards 'Jaw, not War' - let's hope so !
In any event the fact that, as you wrote, whatever the mission was of that B-52 it was undoubtedly a military target. Said target was ringed with AAA weaponry, SAM sites, and other military defences. The B-52 pilots were therefore flying into a combat zone, knowing they would be targeted by said defences, therefore their actions, flying into the face of danger can be called Heroic, Brave, dedicated... and yet within that said same target they knowingly bombed civilians (i.e. you yourself used the phrase 'ringed' - well just what did you think was in the middle ?) - see the picture above - makes it all the more obscene, indeed to the extent that your so called, and pompous, heroism disgusts me !
Imho, flying at high altitude, opening the bomb doors, and dropping your 'dumb' bombs on to your (who knows what) target, is just NOT the same as looking the person / child in the eye and killing / maiming them !
E.g. Would the self same pilot willingly pour Napalm over children if he/she was on the ground and facing them ? Me thinks not; which sort of proves that, SAM's aside, with the luxury of several miles of air between you and your 'target', it's surely (obviously) a lot easier to do. Plus, much like those terrorists of Sept 11th, you are of course, "just following ze orders !" which, palatable or not, is also what the guards at Aushwitz, Buchenwald, Belsen, etc, said in their defence.
Also, when you write 'the fact that the young girl was caught in the middle of this was unfortunate' (of course what she has since done with her life in no way sanctions what was done to her way back when by a USA bomber crew), is that the same as the military euphemism for 'collateral damage' ? because one can be certain that this is the exact same rationale that OBL uses to justify his ends - as indeed as do the IRA, UDA, ETA, (to name but some, e.g. see: http://www.terrorism.net/groups/ - it's amazing what you can find on the net ! ).
I.e. I'm sure that you'd feel just fine-and-dandy about it if it was your child / sibling who was assaulted as such (e.g. limbs blown off, blinded, killed), and you'd accordingly simply turn the other cheek, forgive and forget, etc (queue the Lords Prayer), e.g. what about that young boy (Muhammad Al Durah, 12yrs) who was shot dead / murdered whilst sheltering, terrified, behind his father who was trying to shield him after they became caught under Israeli fire near Netzarim in the Gaza Strip (and whose murder was subsequently reported by many a USA based network as 'caught in cross-fire - yeah, right ! - e.g. that's not how the French media reported it), i.e. what would you do if you were his father / brother / uncle ?
E.g. Let's remind ourselves:
And don’t kid yourself, the above is a direct result of what Western foreign policy can do (when you see the big picture, et al).
Now don't get me wrong, I'm no pacifist, i.e. If you harmed just one hair of any of MY children's heads then I'd hunt you down and kill you like the scum that you are ! (nb. I'm writing that as a turn of phrase, i.e. it's not aimed at anybody personally) as I'm sure that you would me, in the reciprocal position - and accordingly one can surely see how conflicts both start and promulgate.
So, what's to do ?
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" ..... and one might say that it's with some satisfaction (and dare I say it, in that it's probably as a direct result of Sept 11th, that many within the USA having now had a taste of what it's like to be on the receiving end of such sudden and murderous outrage, e.g. of the kind which we in the Europe have been suffering for years) that the cash flow to the IRA Terrorist's has seemingly dried up ...."
Frightening thought that he seems to be, or have been, a professional pilot.
Now that he's identified as a pilot with 'Go', he claims not to be Palestinian.
I wonder which is the true version.
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Duh, Hoverman, if you try removing the parenthesis - i.e. (the brackets) - around what I said, it'll make a lot more sense.
E.g. You should have read it as "and one might say that it's with some satisfaction that the cash flow to the IRA Terrorist's has seemingly dried up ...." with the bit within the 'brackets' adding some value as to maybe why that has happened.
I any event hopefully it all means that we'll now see a lot less people being killed / maimed in the UK as a result of the decrease in the activities of the IRA; an organisation which has, as a matter of record, been funded from within the USA (amongst others) by various misguided (imho) patriots.
And there's a point, maybe the some of those Irish Americans who've funded the IRA's bombs would like to apologise to those within the UK for the deaths and deformities which they've caused ?!
Ultimately, what's written above in no way promotes any satisfaction with what happened during the events in America on Sept 11th, indeed far from it, e.g. just take a look a the numerous pictures / video of all those children & teenagers who kissed & waved their daddy / mummy goodbye on that fateful morning, never to see them again - it's heart-wrenching beyond words, and I wholeheartedly condemn it !
Nb. It's point of view which I'm expressing - not barbarity - and some of you (very worryingly) can't seem to tell the difference.
Ps. and for what it's worth, I don’t work for Go - duh !
[ 25 November 2001: Message edited by: 5by5 ]
E.g. You should have read it as "and one might say that it's with some satisfaction that the cash flow to the IRA Terrorist's has seemingly dried up ...." with the bit within the 'brackets' adding some value as to maybe why that has happened.
I any event hopefully it all means that we'll now see a lot less people being killed / maimed in the UK as a result of the decrease in the activities of the IRA; an organisation which has, as a matter of record, been funded from within the USA (amongst others) by various misguided (imho) patriots.
And there's a point, maybe the some of those Irish Americans who've funded the IRA's bombs would like to apologise to those within the UK for the deaths and deformities which they've caused ?!
Ultimately, what's written above in no way promotes any satisfaction with what happened during the events in America on Sept 11th, indeed far from it, e.g. just take a look a the numerous pictures / video of all those children & teenagers who kissed & waved their daddy / mummy goodbye on that fateful morning, never to see them again - it's heart-wrenching beyond words, and I wholeheartedly condemn it !
Nb. It's point of view which I'm expressing - not barbarity - and some of you (very worryingly) can't seem to tell the difference.
Ps. and for what it's worth, I don’t work for Go - duh !
[ 25 November 2001: Message edited by: 5by5 ]