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pfvspnf 29th Sep 2014 13:36

What a scam mate , first vietjet now Cambodia, they keep throwing out names. A friend of mine was told his linevtrainjng will be in Congo then Mexico then Tunisia and was finally screwed over by the agent .

lee_apromise 2nd Oct 2014 06:38


there are still waiting for line training 15 pilots from south korea!!!!
These idiots paid $50K for A320 TR and line training fees. All they get paid is per diem whilst flying. P2F never fails to disappoint! :D

pfvspnf 3rd Oct 2014 08:51

So they are flying ? Do they get a job after ?

lee_apromise 3rd Oct 2014 10:39


So they are flying ? Do they get a job after ?
AFAIK, they were told that if they perform well during their 500 hours line training, they would receive job offers but if you are the owner, will you offer them job offers? There are plenty of other people lining up to give you $50K per head for giving them 500hrs on A320. Besides, that airline is not financially stable anyway.

squarecrow 3rd Oct 2014 15:49

Chris Flores,
That Information is Bull with a Capital B. Cambodia Angkor Air is 49 percent owned by Vietnam Airlines. They have been going for 5 years plus and currently don't have dealings with Korean's or P2F schemes.
They also have not changed the Name either. Sounds like a scam going on with an outfit called 9star in Thailand or maybe Skywings is involved in Cambodia. Both have Korean Management.

Cris_Flores 3rd Oct 2014 22:56

Cambodja Angkor Air is the national airline, never made P2F schemes. Will start now?

Sky Wings managed by Korean team changed name couple weeks ago. And has p2f pilots waiting to join...

Now...which one it is...

Luke SkyToddler 4th Oct 2014 01:15

Cambodia Angkor Air is effectively a subsidiary of Vietnam Airlines, and is operated by VNA pilots with Vietnamese licences. They are absolutely definitely NOT involved in selling any kind of pay-to-fly, through themselves or any agency.

Anyone who claims otherwise, or asks for money from aspiring pilots, is lying and should be reported to the local anti-fraud authorities.

ZFT 4th Oct 2014 02:28

I suspect that Cris_F may be getting himself confused with Bassaka Air which has started up in Cambodia with I believe Chinese money and support?

kwaiyai 4th Oct 2014 09:39

Angkor Air has no need or plans to set up some P2F. Luke is correct except there is a few Local and Foreign Non VNA Crew with them.

Skywings is still operating as Skywings and there is another new start called Apsara which just got its AOC.

Bassaka has no dealings with P2F and anyway my SSCA Friend told me
still No AOC yet for them. Suspect its Skywings up to something, if you know the Management there Nuff said.

I also hear 9star Boss is up to some Dodgy scam with an ex Non Thai FO who went to Vietjet then left under a cloud again. Lots of post's about that Wazz on here. Something about Korean Cadet's so figure that one.

Cris_Flores 4th Oct 2014 17:11

All i wanted to say was that Skywings is in trouble because has 15 new pilots to join linetraining since June/July. The national carrier Angkor air will not start p2f.


So if atrans aviation is stating that will have line training in Cambodja with one airline called Angkor Air, its a SCAM for me.

squarecrow 10th Oct 2014 17:56

Cambodian start-up, Apsara Int'l Air, launches flights

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09OCT2014
Apsara International Air (IP, Siem Reap) commenced scheduled operations on Wednesday, October 8, 2014 with daily flights between Phnom Penh and Siem Reap. Operations are on-board a sole A320-200, XU-ZAB (cn 476), sourced from fellow Cambodian carrier, Skywings Asia Airlines (ZA, Phnom Penh).

Airline CEO, Zhang Xiaopeng, says the Chinese-backed carrier intends to open up international routes to Japan, South Korea and Russia, once domestic operations have stabilized.

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WYOMINGPILOT 11th Oct 2014 00:29

Add to this list Bassaka Air another Chinese backed Cambodia start up to launch in Dec. 2014 using A-320s. It seems like Cambodia is turning into a huge start up market.

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Luke SkyToddler 11th Oct 2014 05:35

... and I'll bet $100 that at least half of them will be gone again within a few months of starting up ... basically as long as it takes for them to run up some huge unpaid bills for fuel and maintenance and landing fees, and fleece a few wide eyed wannabes for a few hundred grand of "line training" ... then hello mysteriously one morning the office will be locked and the "management" will be nowhere to be seen :hmm:

kwaiyai 11th Oct 2014 11:35

I like the way it say's Bassaka will start ops in Dec 2014. Last I heard still no AOC and 2 planes parked at PNH. I also hear SSCA not happy as they have been doing stuff without approval.

pfvspnf 12th Oct 2014 12:04

There is no line training with SAS or ATRANS . Someone confirmed this to me

Cris_Flores 13th Oct 2014 23:33

squarecrow...right on spot! Thanks.

Now its clear....

kwaiyai 14th Oct 2014 13:03

I stand corrected Bassaka got it at last so good luck to them.

Luke with respect the way Cambodia Angkor is being run is not impressive at all either, take that any way you want.
Regard's

Superstaraut 15th Oct 2014 11:26

Hello Marco,

Did you really met them?
Please tell us more about them..
Do you think they are really serious?
Thank you so much

Greenlights 5th Nov 2014 05:54

If you are FO you have very few chances now to interest them.
VJ have more cadets than seats available now. PLus some FO pay for line training...so even with experience on type it is tough to move here unfortunately.

pfvspnf 6th Nov 2014 07:35

There is no Line training at viet jet now only cadets and experienced FOs


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