So you can confirm that vietjet does do paytofly?

They are going on my blacklist !

More details? Who are the agents? How much does it cost? And what sort of individuals are lining up for this 'privilege' ?

and paying for OBS? hahahaha :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsQIqv1PfTM

check the YT link, it's in french... would be nice with subtitles, maybe someone would do it...anyway, at the 59 minutes, you will hear clearly the airlines names who signed a contract with an italian agency...no name ! what a pity...it was under hidden camera.

some french, have balls to talk about pay to fly theme ! and it's not finished. The broadcast is short , about 20 minutes...what a pity too.

But that's a start.

About the OBS flights, if it's true that it's paying, ahahah what a shame.

You do work during OBS flights !!! (radio, or doing the loadsheet, even though now, apparently in HCM and Hanoi, the ground staff does the loadsheet).

So I'm paying for OBS, hours I cannot count as I'm not operational yet, you do limited cockpit preparation and maybe some radio work. ! And they want money for these sectors ? For the most part you look at the window and take pictures for Facebook !

That's all these p2frs are good at selfies. !

Dude, can"t you imagine that you'll be airline pilot, best job (sorry.. hobby) in the world ?
so, yes, you have to pay for this privilege to post pics on FB !!

god ! you should pay for this job, and not being paid! so be happy ok ?

(irony) ;)

Greenlight, I want to thank you for the link to the french TV. I am the one that participate...

I made some enquiries for the TV and I obtain several propositions.... There are so many offers for Pay To Fly with no contract, no salary, nothing,....

Subtitles are coming soon....

We have created a petition against Pay To Fly. We need 100.000 signatures to be heard by european commission:
https://secure.avaaz.org/fr/petition/p2f_must_stop/

Please, sign and make it turn!

You ? wow awsome buddy !
No prob, don't mention it! you're welcome....
I understand french that's why I heard about it, but sure, the subtitles are more than welcome too.

haha ! you bet !

As you said, it's just the beginning.... We are making noise and some european pilots associations are supporting us....

We have to speak loudly about Pay To Fly to be heard

Yep, I confirm.
French SNPL is backing us. Swiss AEROPERS ans Belgium BeCA is discussing support as well as the ECA (European Cockpit Association), in a meeting set this week.

Wow I bet all the P2F airlines of southeast asia will be shaking in their boots, when they hear all those european pilot's unions in France and Belgium are "holding meetings" and "discussing support" and "making noise" :rolleyes:

That's all that unions are good for these days unfortunately

I think lion air should be punished but it's the agents themselves that need to learn a lesson !

P2F airlines are probably laughing at pilots.

Like alcohol & drug, more prohibited it is, more....

12 Bad Effects of Prohibition You Should Know

They are having a good laugh, so are these scam agencies when you send the money to their bank account.

Romeo can you give us an update on your progress. ?

On a lighter note ...
 

These unfortunately aren't actually VietJet girls; they're professional models.


Racy photos of scantily-clad VietAir flight attendants stir controversy | Fox News

Of course...
In Vietnam, many things are just fake or put out smoke and mirror. (like their pseudo order of 90 airbus).
The girls are from Venus agency. And by the way, those kinds of girl would rather work as pro model than being an underpaid flight attendant in a scout uniform all the day long. I know it, I dated a pro model and they would never change their job, except when older obvisouly^^.
And personnaly, I never date a FA in the same airline...bad idea, especially when the airline is small.

Vietjet use a lot marketing strategy and they do need girls because........... they only have that. So they try to attract the young generation.

Viet Jet
 

I ve seen some comments about Viet Jet /Atrans Aviation but cannot see a direct frank comment whether this program is something similar to Lion Air ?

I am looking forwrd to see somebody actually has gone through this program and flying for Viet Jet

Thanks

That's probably because this program doesn't exist and the agent is lying to you

That's a pity. A lot of messengers I have written on that topic are not published.... :(

Pprune is not like any others forum I know....freedom of speech is not taken into account. :mad:

Not with vietjet....but Atransaviation states that they have line training in cambodja with
Angkor air, but probably is a scam, because this Angkor air, changed name few months ago...and on the old airline there are still waiting for line training 15 pilots from south korea!!!!

If an airline changes name, asks for new line training pilots, but the old airline still have 15 new recruits waiting for starting line on the bus, do you think this new Angkor air will make line training for the new pilots/recruits?

I dont believe so...if i know this story...i think atransaviation knows this story too!!!!