Some of you should read the previous 23 Pages where you will find all the infos you need

To work in Vietnam you need to go with an agency
Parc Aviation is the first choice
then Europacific and Ristworth

The salary include EVERYTHING no tax to pay in Vietnam (but your country????)

Everything means if you receive 12000 US/month
you pay for your accomodation * maybe 1000 us /month
you pay your food and beers and all your expense (except Hotel and transport OFF base )for your 6 weeks anywhere you are
your travel is free on your rotation on Vietnam Airlines ONLY
If you live in America(exemple) you will have to BUY a ticket from Paris, Frankfurt or Tokyo to your destination
No pension plan
No school allowance for kids
No dispatch
No loss of license insurance
For those pilots who are working with a real Airlines (SIA,Emirates,ect,ect) stay where you are (I know some of you are not happy at those Airlines but this is 100 times better)
IF you D ONT HAVE A JOB now YES it is a good place to work specialy if you are single
The FO are generally OK
Roaster a lot of change on ATR and A320 B777 not so bad

well just to add my opinion on 3 things

f/o's............DO suck................no SOP, no discipline, half of the check list's , they think they're driving a scooter, its like if some one told them to do nothing but take all the catering after a days work from the galleys!!!! if you can get along with that you'll be just fine , ohhhh they also smoke like prostitutes in the cockpit no permission asked to the captain

roster on the 320 its the worst !!!! not ATR, thats a paid holiday for those guys

and it doesnt matter if youre married
it will not be too difficult to find some cute viet girl :ok:

c ya

FO... do suck???????????:=:=Hey Skipper take it easy:) may be they smoke like whores but you complain like one of them:}

I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I feel that FO's on the A320 fleet operate on a very high standard, many have already progressed to the L/H seat are doing well.

Cheers D.L.

just wondering about the sim interview.....
 

Would appreciate any info on the sim interview. I will be heading out to SIN in a couple of weeks....

Also any recommendations on good, inexpensive areas to live in Saigon?

Private messages are cool.

Thanks!

Hello!

I am also attending a sim session within two weeks! Anyone with some advise?

Thanks very much in advance!

grtz:ok:

hello folks

just to know...how long does it take to be called for the sim after having applied with parc?

thks a lot in advance:ok:

PM me for details.

Cheers

Can be anywhere from Minutes, to months. Generally, within a few weeks.

Generally speaking, I have to agree. Like any other airline, there are always exceptions, but as a general rule these guys are pretty good operators.

One recent candidate that I'm aware of had the same issue. His solution was to attend one of the type-rating schools in the US ("Primair" I recall was the name of the school) and pay for his own check-ride renewal. Also, he had the "Circling" restriction removed during that check-ride.

Incidently, he was successfull in his SIM evaluation and will be joining VNA in the coming weeks.

No, Parc Aviation and Rishworth share the recuiting efforts. But, if you have already had Rishworth (or Parc) begin any recruitment process on your behalf, you will not be able to change agencies. There is an accepted rule that once one agency has you, you cant' change to another UNTIL the end of the first contract. Even then, changing agencies is subject to all sorts of different criteria and approvals.

Screening soon
 

Hi guys,

Anybody who has been to the screening recently would be so kind to share their experience?
I've been invited to singapore and would like to know as much as possible before getting there.
Thanks in advance and safe flying.

If you use Airbus FCOM already, you should be fine.
Have you received your syllabus? We followed the syllabus that was sent to us.

Even though my sim partner and I came from different airlines with different procedures, we were able to get through the sim evaluation and offered positions.

You will get multiple failures, circling and vor approaches, landing with at least a 20 knot cross wind and no auto thrust or auto pilot.

Thanks for that info. No I haven't recieved any syllabus yet, probably because I don't have a fixed date for the sims.
Is there anything else on the screening apart from the sims? any technical questionare or one to one interview?
Thanks again and safe flying.

Gday guys,

Ive also applied for an A320 f/o job through PARC. Has anybody recieved any dates for screening in Nov as my application has been in the system for over a month? Is it normal to deal with one person one week and a different person the next during this process. From experience who do you guys believe is better PARC or Rishworth? Lastly how many weeks notice do they give you before the actual screeing date? Your help is greatly appreciated!

Rgrds
UFC!!;)

Hey UFC... for what it's worth I've had the exact some results that you have. I've applied with Parc and been told that my app has been approved and to expect an evaluation in November as soon as they finalize their sim dates. (Also dealt with several different people which kind of confused me as well).

I guess we just have to be patient...

:hmm:

I'm not going to chance any action from either of the companies by posting my opinion about this.

However, there are several cases of Rishworth Pilots changing over to Parc for various reasons. There is NOT ONE instance of a Parc Pilot changing over to Rishworth!

I think that this fact speaks for itself, thus answers your question. :O

a330 info required
 

:OHi guys.

Lots of info on a320 topics, but does anyone know of the latest situation re
A330 recruitment, in particular Capts. I seem to get mixed messages about the A330 fleet for DEC's. Parc and Rishworth are advertising but some posts infer not a lot is happening. Any latest info would be very helpful.

Many thanks

Thanks Jimmy for you reply. I guessed that my be the case!
:ok:

When are you "committed" when you talk to these contract agencies? I have only submitted paperwork, not gone to a screening yet. I signed a declaration that states "if accepted for an interview and if I successfully pass the screening I agree to be contracted only by XXXX, on its contract with yyy airline." At what time in the process are you 'committed'? Is the above statement a two parter--pass the screening and get accepted for an interview?

I was told that I could apply to several contracting agencies but to different Airlines, ie xxx contract agency for an Asian carrier and YYY agency for a Middle East carrier. Is that correct?

On another front--how does one keep current while awaiting a job offer?

Sim check paperwork
 

Can someone tell me what you need to bring to the sim check in Singapore as far as paperwork? Do you need to bring licenses, log books, medical, or anything else?

My contract agency is trying to get me a simulator date at the end of this month. I am leaving for a long holiday this weekend and may not have time to come back home to pick up anything so it would be great if someone can tell me what I need to bring with me on holiday in case I have to go straight down to Singapore.

Thanks a lot in advance.

The agency told me to bring all the papers which were already sent as a copy (pdf file) to the agency during application before. But during sim check I didn't need to show them. Nevertheless you should have them with you just in case they want to see it during sim check.
Later on when you are starting ground training you will have to give them to the office, then they will be given to CAAV for issuing your licence.

Thanks Luke.

To clarify, did you actually bring all your log books or just a copy of the last few pages?

I did bring the whole book, they told me to bring it with me, but I didn't need to show. Maybe it depends on the fleet if they want to see it or not. You should bring it with you. Are yours that heavy? If they are that heavy and you don't want to carry them around during your vacation then just leave it, tell them you are very sorry in case they ask for it, but definitely bring all your licences with you and then the copies of the last pages.
You will have to hand over your original logbooks later on during ground training.

OK, I get the idea now. Thanks for info Stardust.

Just got back and the whole thing was pretty straight forward. Make sure you go through all those failures i.e. Dual Hyd., ADR3 w/ IR1., etc. get familiar with the book and when the thing downgrades into direct law you are handflying it and it's a little squirly....fly green dot plus 10 until configured, I flew clean green dot and got the STALL, STALL...it doesn't take much to get that(very small margin). If you are not familiar w/ the bird you need to be as it is a great tool for NPA's which by the way are all selected/selected @ VAC and for the eval. GOOD LUCK BRO!

Hi Guy's, Just wondering if someone could let me know the latest route structure for the A330.

Thanks in advance.

Structure! What mean?

For NPAs VAC is as with everything 100% Airbus SOPs.

As none of our approaches are validated, the vertical profile cannot be flown, only the lateral profile.

So NAV/FPA if the accuracy check is high, or TRACK/FPA on 2 engines.

One 1 engine Airbus sop is TRACK/FPA only.

All NPAs are flown as a constant descent profile to MDA where you land or carry out a missed approach. There is no descent to MDA, level off and fly into the MAP. This is in line with JAA and most of the world. It's also covered in Jepps.

Just clarifying the comment on selected approachs only mentioned above.

Incidently with VAC there is no additive to MDA for an NPA which is actually mentioned in FCOM.

Direct law is fine. You may have been overweight and dual hyd fail, which will make life harder and the stall more likely due to the lack of flight controls maybe?

For the sim profile it's best to configure on a long straight final. Ask for it from ATC. Also use manual thr and don't take all the power off when you start to configure and when you do don't stop until you're at flap 2. It's G+B hyd that has failed so on selection of flap 1 you don't get anything until you select flaps2. Slats are inop. It's probably why you got the stall warner.

As a tip i've found configuring in a shallow descent makes it easier. If the VSW starts to increase towards KIAS you can gently unload the wing to control it.

anyway just my 2 bobs worth

VAC are trying to instigate a 10% pay cut now.

ia1166- I'm waiting for a sim. date for the 330, and in view of your last post, I'm wondering what job security you would have if starting with VAC. ??

I've heard that too. It will be interesting if the agencies show any balls and stand up for the pilots on this one. I would seriously think twice about going there after this. The contracts are really not worth the paper they are written on if they let this go through and the agencies are going to not only loose pilots but a s%^t load of money too. Thin edge of the wedge and all.

They just gave their local boys a big pay increase and I believe the former CP is now the VP of the airline is behind this. He hates expats and always has and this just is another example of it. He was apparently offered the top job at at CAAV but would not have had the power...Total power tripper...there are other desciptions for him of course but we cant use those words on this forum. Any more info from the guys there???

Not much likelyhood of that!

Since news of this pay cut came to light, I've received 3 offers for interviews with other airlines in the region. The representatives at those companies all told me that they have seen an increase in the applicant's currently at VN Air.


This may come as a surprise, but one can never trust anything that the vietnamese say.

and they still act like a bunch of monkeys.

True, he is now VP, and like every other fiasco that has occured at VN Air, he is directly behind it.

You hit the nail squarly with the hammer on that one.

You're polite, I'll give you that.:ok:

any news ?
other than our "dear" capt:yuk: Yuc reduction plan ?
guess evryone's on a holliday he he

for all the guys in VNA with one PARC option scheme (A,B, or C)...when they say you have 6 weeks on duty followed by 2 weeks off, do they mean that in the 6 week period you don't have a single OFF day? If no, how many OFF days do you have per month? Does it also mean that the 2 weeks off periods you are up also with the annual leave?

thanks folks

recruitment
 

does anyone know if VAC are still hiring for the ATR?
do they hire foreign FO's?
what about this non type rated positions I see advertised?

THRidle

i was thinking about 330, anyway how many OFF days in the 6 weeks period by contract?

Does the annual leave exists by contract? If yes, how many days?