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BAMBOOzled 26th Jul 2019 16:12


Originally Posted by CM1A320 (Post 10528565)
VNA is a state owned white elefant used by the short term management to get rich, there is no vision no merit no pride. airplanes are dirty, staff takes the entire galley home, including alcohol cutlery and food.

Cabin crew and pilots have to pay their way in, proficient or not.
Flight to USA not a priority, management pilots and instructors smoke in the cockpit and in the crew bunks.
(Thats why many pilots love vna)
currently no fleet can reach USA without a polar route.

the influx of indian jet airways pilots stopped the salary increase that was expected.

Interview is a walk in the park, they are just checking that you can get along with the local culture.

brokers are saying that there are skyteam tickets, its not true, its only way is with china airlines from los Angeles to taipei.
thats it. There are no improved conditions, if anything people are working longer days for the same 10.8 of eternity, plus some pop corn every quarter.

its all about the pockets of management and brokers interact with those pockets.

the only incentive is flying happy passengers who are oblivious to the inner workings...


Why is a polar route a limiting factor to get to the US? Many airlines do it daily?

Also, I thought getting FAA approval was a big deal to them. Why bother trying to get CAT 1 if they don't actually care to fly those routes?

And is the airline at least making a profit/stable?

pearswick 30th Jul 2019 06:03

Hello - I am a journalist with the Reuters news agency looking to speak to Vietnam-based pilots who might be able to talk to us about the current state of air traffic control in the country, as well as any general infrastructure issues which have emerged as the aviation market rapidly expands.

Anyone interested in talking, please use Whatsapp or Signal to contact me on the following number: +84911853004

Any conversation would be completely off the record unless otherwise agreed. You can see some of our recent work via Twitter (@pearswick).

wingdeagle 1st Aug 2019 17:01


Originally Posted by pearswick (Post 10531783)
Hello - I am a journalist with the Reuters news agency looking to speak to Vietnam-based pilots who might be able to talk to us about the current state of air traffic control in the country, as well as any general infrastructure issues which have emerged as the aviation market rapidly expands.

Anyone interested in talking, please use Whatsapp or Signal to contact me on the following number: +84911853004

Any conversation would be completely off the record unless otherwise agreed. You can see some of our recent work via Twitter (@pearswick).

You AMATEUR ������

Sandysin 15th Aug 2019 18:55

VNA Recruitment
 
I got over with the skype interview then written exam and sim in Saigon. Cleared to join VNA as A320 captain with Hanoi
base mentioned by CAE PARC in their mail after sim assesment. Any clue what is next in line before starting flying with Vietnam Airlines?

Check2 15th Aug 2019 21:29

Hi Sandysin,

care red to share questions , Sim profiles etc?
pm me if you want.
I have an interview comind up soon.

regards

Sucram 4th Sep 2019 09:59

787 Contract
 
Can anyone give me an idea what life is like on the 787 in VNA, I see a 4/4 contract is been advertised which would suit me. I dont expect it to be wonderful but would appreciate any honest feedback about the good and bad bits. Thanks

Sms320 5th Sep 2019 11:36


Originally Posted by Sandysin (Post 10546132)
I got over with the skype interview then written exam and sim in Saigon. Cleared to join VNA as A320 captain with Hanoi
base mentioned by CAE PARC in their mail after sim assesment. Any clue what is next in line before starting flying with Vietnam Airlines?

Hi Sandysin,

can you share questions asked during Skype Interview?
pm me if you can
I have an interview coming up soon.

regards

Aleks 9th Sep 2019 08:55

Hi!
Could you share Skype interview procedure with me, please?

Airygen 16th Sep 2019 16:08


Originally Posted by CM1A320 (Post 10506643)
the frustating element of vna is that nobody in management gives a ****, they are just milking the corruption cow.

that means that no improvements will ever be seen unless someone up there is making money from it.

they want to be a 5 star airline and are buying the cheapest interiors on all the planes, the cabin crew and ground staff take all the food and alcohol home.

and entires bussiness class smelling of cigarretes smoke from the cockpit and crew bunk beds.

local cabin crew and pilots have to pay management under the table money to get hired,

so the is no merit at all to work for them, no incentive to work and study to excel and be someone in the system,

its all about who do you know and how much money you have.

there are millions in waste, from improper fuel policies and procedures and poor pilot training and decision making.

etc etc etc. communism at work i guess.

I have been with 2 flag carriers in the Asia Pacific region and they are no different than VNA from what had been described concerning corruptions and wastes. It is a product of "state owned" business so no one really gives a Sxxx such that money and favors are used to get ahead in the corrupt system. It probably will take another 10 years or even a few incidents or accident (God forbids) for the airline to clean up like their other "more developed" and a bit less corrupted Asia carriers that already went thru this growing process. It would be smart for the Top Management or Main Share Holders of VNA to read up some of the backgrounds and history of other already developed Asia Carriers and see what they went thru to change under this current mentality..

Sucram 19th Sep 2019 07:07


Originally Posted by Sucram (Post 10561570)
Can anyone give me an idea what life is like on the 787 in VNA, I see a 4/4 contract is been advertised which would suit me. I dont expect it to be wonderful but would appreciate any honest feedback about the good and bad bits. Thanks

Anyone with any info please??
Maybe everyone on the 787 is very happy so doesnt come on pprune 😁😁😁

Check2 23rd Sep 2019 12:10

Hi E everyone

can anyone share any i fo on the Sim a320 for Interview plz??
any surprises ?.

regards

wingdeagle 23rd Sep 2019 12:49


Originally Posted by Check2 (Post 10577211)
Hi E everyone

can anyone share any i fo on the Sim a320 for Interview plz??
any surprises ?.

regards

I hear there will be an English grammar test before the interview to ensure the pilot knows how to properly write in English without using abbreviations of a teenager.


Check2 23rd Sep 2019 13:15

Oh dear....

4runner 23rd Sep 2019 21:25


Originally Posted by wingdeagle (Post 10577255)


I hear there will be an English grammar test before the interview to ensure the pilot knows how to properly write in English without using abbreviations of a teenager.


My Man. Filler

Luke SkyToddler 23rd Sep 2019 23:31

Hope they don't introduce that test, we would have no FOs left :}

Check2 the sim is pretty old-school, they love to get it into raw data, alternate law, man thrust, and spend most of the exercise flying around like that. Possibly a visual circuit for warm up. Popular ECAMs are FCU fail, dual MCDU fail, various combinations of flight control computers and radalt failures, whatever gets you hand flying. After that, probably a windshear and TCAS, standard instrument rating renewal stuff, V1 cut and non precision approach

Check2 24th Sep 2019 10:30

Thank you Luke

thats much appreciate.

regards

744 NOMAD 24th Sep 2019 22:33

VNA B787 Capt - Agency and Screenings
 
Hi, I am about to apply to VNA B787 Capt. What is the latest on the best agency to use? Parc/(CAE), Rischworth of FCI?

Any information on the Skype interview, Tech Quiz and Sim would be highly appreciated.

Nomad

Sharklet 29th Jan 2020 16:22

Any B787 FO's that have joined recently? Pls PM.

King on a Wing 18th Feb 2020 22:47

Gents. May I ask what are the expected terms and conditions for a 787 skipper. I mean salary wise and otherwise. How is the working and staying condition please. And which base would be best.
Thanks in advance.

PoyCNC 30th Aug 2020 06:01

How's life there during this pandemic? Any hopes of things going back to where they were, or just chalk it up to the good old days? Wishing everybody well during these tough times.

Yesse 25th Nov 2020 00:56

Firing proccess in VNA.
 
Remember when i was warning all colleagues about Vietnam Airlines? Well, the pandemic has been the perfect excuse. Many A321 Captains will be fired now. Remember when i said that First Officers shouldn't apply for Vietnam Airlines? Remember when agencies were saying that pilots for A350/787 will have a fast-track to Captain upgrade? Well, now VNA will fire all of them. Many of these guys accepted to stay at home without salary for all this time, now, after almost one year without flying, they will be fired and their career as pilots will end. Nobody will hire a pilot who is not current and who was not flying for all these months. These guys were supporting the company without receiving 1 cent, trusting in this cheating and corrupt company. Now they found out that they could use the few expats they have left to do the dirty job that local pilots they don't want to do, like flying to Europe or other countries, and when they go back to Vietnam, they need to be 14 days under quarantine, and everything for $1500 maximum. Local pilots will just fly to Saigon and some other places where they don't need to do the quarantine. The managers they didn't reduce their salary, and they use the pandemic as an excuse to fire those pilots who were always doing their best for them, destroying their lives and careers. This is Vietnam Airlines. Someday they will need all these pilots, so i hope they could find a better place to fly, at least those who still current somehow. Many airlines fired pilots, i know, but any airline around the world was waiting 1 year until their pilots couldn't find any other place to fly, because they didn't fly for all these months. This is VNA, this is how they care about their workers... A company for friends and people with money to bribe all those managers with the power. I hope many of you heard my words before, spacially FO's, and for sure today you would have more options than if you choosed VNA. Good luck to everybody!!

Flyingviking2018 1st May 2023 09:33

Any idea what’s happening in VN? Apparently no recalls. Where as VJ has recalled, or even hired pilots. Seems a bit odd. There must be quite a few expat VN pilots on unpaid leave still…..

TruthtellerHan 22nd Sep 2023 09:24

Hi,

Vietnam Airlines currently has the poorest working conditions in Vietnam. Most of pilots are currently resigning including Vietnamese and go to Vietjet, Bamboo being on hold now due to substantial financial problems too.
Regarding Vietnam Airlines, the airline seems not to know where to go, due to heavy financial problems, the operations are simply crazy, the procedures change every week creating an important workload both in flight and at home leading to fatigue and unsafety. The salaries are definitely the lowest in the area (CPT Basic salary: 600USD) and you have vacation, you have almost no salary, no sick leave for the same reasons.
AN AIRLINE TO STRICTLY AVOID AT THE MOMENT

SQ2 19th Oct 2023 06:49


Originally Posted by Flyingviking2018 (Post 11428390)
Any idea what’s happening in VN? Apparently no recalls. Where as VJ has recalled, or even hired pilots. Seems a bit odd. There must be quite a few expat VN pilots on unpaid leave still…..


Originally Posted by TruthtellerHan (Post 11507041)
Hi,

Vietnam Airlines currently has the poorest working conditions in Vietnam. Most of pilots are currently resigning including Vietnamese and go to Vietjet, Bamboo being on hold now due to substantial financial problems too.
Regarding Vietnam Airlines, the airline seems not to know where to go, due to heavy financial problems, the operations are simply crazy, the procedures change every week creating an important workload both in flight and at home leading to fatigue and unsafety. The salaries are definitely the lowest in the area (CPT Basic salary: 600USD) and you have vacation, you have almost no salary, no sick leave for the same reasons.
AN AIRLINE TO STRICTLY AVOID AT THE MOMENT

Pretty sad to hear.. was never the top paid job in the area but in my point of view the quality of life was very decent. Hopefully one day things will change again in a positive way for all.

WSSS 21st Oct 2023 10:17


Originally Posted by TruthtellerHan (Post 11507041)
Hi,

(CPT Basic salary: 600USD) and you have vacation, you have almost no salary, no sick leave for the same reasons.
AN AIRLINE TO STRICTLY AVOID AT THE MOMENT

Do you mean 6000 USD or is it really 600 USD?

TruthtellerHan 21st Oct 2023 10:26


Originally Posted by WSSS (Post 11525159)
Do you mean 6000 USD or is it really 600 USD?

You clearly read! A basic salary of 600 USD (Six hundred), then pay per scheduled hour


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