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Filipinos and Indonesians on RBA flight decks?
Like it or not, they're seen as amahs and gardeners.
And none of them will ever pole an RBA plane.
But don't stop scaring the troops Cow.
There's more you can post to try and sink this ship, surely?
Like it or not, they're seen as amahs and gardeners.
And none of them will ever pole an RBA plane.
But don't stop scaring the troops Cow.
There's more you can post to try and sink this ship, surely?
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Wait and see. I can understand your scepticism but give it time.
There is no need to try to sink a ship which already has major holes below the waterline, is rudderless and already has most of the crew wearing lifejackets.
I would be delighted to post how wonderful it is to work for RBA but we both know that isn't the case and that nearly all expats are looking for a way out. And who can blame them.
There is no need to try to sink a ship which already has major holes below the waterline, is rudderless and already has most of the crew wearing lifejackets.
I would be delighted to post how wonderful it is to work for RBA but we both know that isn't the case and that nearly all expats are looking for a way out. And who can blame them.
Reading through all the posts, there has still not been any mentioned of $$$...
As low as they appear to be, would somebody be kind enough to at least put me out of my misery and advise what the remuneration is/isn’t, and what are the present contract conditions re: expat F/O’s and Capts for housing, schooling etc...
Thanks,
RFN
As low as they appear to be, would somebody be kind enough to at least put me out of my misery and advise what the remuneration is/isn’t, and what are the present contract conditions re: expat F/O’s and Capts for housing, schooling etc...
Thanks,
RFN
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Royal Brunei Conditions
RFN. As far as I know you have to join through Rishworth. After 1 year you can join RBA. They do not give you a Contract, you will be offered an "Agreement" Terms are being changed all the time. At the moment the exchange is B$ 1.3=Oz$ 1.0. There is talk now of them reducing the school allowance, and reducing the housing allowance even more. At this time you will need to fork out about $300-800 to be able to rent a decent house. There is NO medical cover, you have to pay for that. Increments were cancelled about 2 years ago and there has been no pay rise in the history of the airline. Expect to work your butt off and the hotels down route are not even fit for Roo's. Most pilots are looking to move, so if you are unemployed you have a good chance to get in. If you are employed there is little hope here. It is a safe place, and there is a decent golf course, but you won't have time to play. My DAYS OFF have been changed 4 times this roster, so don't expect too much from a planning point of view. Good Luck.
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I have to agree with 14RU, RFN. In the good old days, Foxy (ex DFO) would have stood up to the Board of Directors and told them that Flight Ops can't run the planned or existing schedule with this many crews but the gutless "leaders" we have in Flight Ops today haven't got the balls to say no so the **** just gets passed on down the line.
More and more Captains, F/Os and Cabin Crew are learning how to say No....and the airline are really feeling the effect of this withdrawal of good will, discretion and willingness to work on days off.
As a joining Rishworth F/O expect about 6000 NZ$ a month if you are lucky. After a year you will go on to the "full RBA contract" (Whoopy fuXking doo!) which at the current exchange rate represents about a 10% pay cut as you will then be paid in Brunei$.
Stay away unless you are really desperate.
More and more Captains, F/Os and Cabin Crew are learning how to say No....and the airline are really feeling the effect of this withdrawal of good will, discretion and willingness to work on days off.
As a joining Rishworth F/O expect about 6000 NZ$ a month if you are lucky. After a year you will go on to the "full RBA contract" (Whoopy fuXking doo!) which at the current exchange rate represents about a 10% pay cut as you will then be paid in Brunei$.
Stay away unless you are really desperate.
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Leaving RBA was the best decision I ever made. My only regret is that I did not do it earlier. There are a lot of jobs out there with far better terms and conditions, expat, and domestic OZ, UK and NZ.
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Sad Days
As an ex RBA employee the posts here sadden me. It certainly appears that I left at the right time, sometimes I still miss it though, especially the great camaraderie with the crew. Sounds like a much less fun place to work than it once was.
I really hope someone can turn it around, don't ask me who! Good luck to all those who are sticking with it, and those who have left for pastures new.
RBA once had the potential to be a great little airline, I hope that one day it still can be.
I really hope someone can turn it around, don't ask me who! Good luck to all those who are sticking with it, and those who have left for pastures new.
RBA once had the potential to be a great little airline, I hope that one day it still can be.
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Big Kahuna,
What's happening ? You ask.
Not Much.
Apart from the incident in Bangkok.
And the incident in Ujung Pandang.
And we now have to pay for the privilege of parking at the airport.
And we have had a payrise - microscope required.
And we can now be bumped from flights when on Duty travel.
As you can see, i.a.w. the intro of our E.R.s, only changes that improve the working conditions of employees happen at RBA.
What's happening ? You ask.
Not Much.
Apart from the incident in Bangkok.
And the incident in Ujung Pandang.
And we now have to pay for the privilege of parking at the airport.
And we have had a payrise - microscope required.
And we can now be bumped from flights when on Duty travel.
As you can see, i.a.w. the intro of our E.R.s, only changes that improve the working conditions of employees happen at RBA.
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Wings,
I thought the E.R. said changes adversely affecting employees had to be given 30 days in advance of the change.
When RBA chopped medical reimbursement with immediate effect in 2002, I sent an email to the big chief pointing out the 30 day notice. To be fair (to a point), the 30 day notice was then put in place.
I thought the E.R. said changes adversely affecting employees had to be given 30 days in advance of the change.
When RBA chopped medical reimbursement with immediate effect in 2002, I sent an email to the big chief pointing out the 30 day notice. To be fair (to a point), the 30 day notice was then put in place.
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Bus 429, you are correct re the E.Rs, but I fail to see your point.
Are you suggesting it's O.K. to have to pay for parking as long as you are told 30 days in advance ?
Are you suggesting its O.K. to chop medical reimbursements as long as you are told 30 days in advance ?
Are you suggesting that it is O.K. to continually reduce our conditions and benefits as long as we are told 30 days in advance ?
Where does it end ? Will it be O.K. for us to be told we are working for nothing as long as we are told 30 days in advance ?
You semantics are irrefutable but your point is ....... I don't know, what is your point ??
Cheers:
Are you suggesting it's O.K. to have to pay for parking as long as you are told 30 days in advance ?
Are you suggesting its O.K. to chop medical reimbursements as long as you are told 30 days in advance ?
Are you suggesting that it is O.K. to continually reduce our conditions and benefits as long as we are told 30 days in advance ?
Where does it end ? Will it be O.K. for us to be told we are working for nothing as long as we are told 30 days in advance ?
You semantics are irrefutable but your point is ....... I don't know, what is your point ??
Cheers:
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Wings,
Sorry, my point was not clear. I meant to point out that RBA management were, during my brief tenure, reactive (knee-jerking) in almost all cases. There is no justification for withdrawing the few benefits now remaining; I don't know how they have managed to retain the people they have.
Sorry, my point was not clear. I meant to point out that RBA management were, during my brief tenure, reactive (knee-jerking) in almost all cases. There is no justification for withdrawing the few benefits now remaining; I don't know how they have managed to retain the people they have.
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Remember 11th September 2001 ?
Twin Towers, New York City.
The Mayor of New York at the time was Rudolph Giuliani.
Giuliani was widely acclaimed for his leadership during and immediately after the attacks. He was, in fact, given an Honourary Knighthood from Queen Elizabeth the Second of England for his leadership during those times.
When asked about leadership his response was
"More than anyone, leaders should welcome being held accountable.
Nothing builds confidence in a leader more than a willingness to take responsibility for what happens during his watch."
What a refreshing attitude.
(Quote from 'The Edge Singapore' newspaper, 17 May 2004)
Twin Towers, New York City.
The Mayor of New York at the time was Rudolph Giuliani.
Giuliani was widely acclaimed for his leadership during and immediately after the attacks. He was, in fact, given an Honourary Knighthood from Queen Elizabeth the Second of England for his leadership during those times.
When asked about leadership his response was
"More than anyone, leaders should welcome being held accountable.
Nothing builds confidence in a leader more than a willingness to take responsibility for what happens during his watch."
What a refreshing attitude.
(Quote from 'The Edge Singapore' newspaper, 17 May 2004)
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Right now I would settle for being reimbursed 20$ pcm which I am currently paying for the privilege of parking my car at my place of work.
I am still trying to reconcile how we used to get a car allowance of 260$ pcm and it was free to park at work, and now we are charged 20$ pcm and the allowance has been withdrawn. The CEO definitely said in the recent staff forum that we haven't had a pay cut!
Go Figure!
I am still trying to reconcile how we used to get a car allowance of 260$ pcm and it was free to park at work, and now we are charged 20$ pcm and the allowance has been withdrawn. The CEO definitely said in the recent staff forum that we haven't had a pay cut!
Go Figure!
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CEO gets free swimming lesson
Rumours are reaching COWPAT that our CEO upset someone at a recent social function to such an extent that he was "assisted" into the pool whilst still fully clothed and had his clothes and mobile phone ruined in the process.
Apparently he had a major sense of humour failure and suffered serious loss of face as a consequence.
Would anyone who was present care to give the exact details. I would also like to know who did it so I can buy him a barrel of beer.
Apparently he had a major sense of humour failure and suffered serious loss of face as a consequence.
Would anyone who was present care to give the exact details. I would also like to know who did it so I can buy him a barrel of beer.
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Bananas bananas
Re the car parking fees. I personally spoke to CEO on this matter on 27 Feb this year in the presence of two other pilots including a Deputy F.M.
CEO assured me he would "look into it".
A month later I e mailed the CEO to ask what he had found out when he looked into it.
No answer was the stern reply.
Cheers
Re the car parking fees. I personally spoke to CEO on this matter on 27 Feb this year in the presence of two other pilots including a Deputy F.M.
CEO assured me he would "look into it".
A month later I e mailed the CEO to ask what he had found out when he looked into it.
No answer was the stern reply.
Cheers