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Hey guys,
For info - NONE of the foreign nationals (~160 Scoot/SQ combined) that were retrenched in September 2020 have been called back or asked to re-apply. Those that have re-applied, without PR status - have NOT received a reply/offer to interview. @SQ, many of the FO's that were retrenched were in fact hired as Cadet Pilots by SQ; and even they have not been called back. It appears that any hiring effort is concentrated on locals (nationals + PR) only at this stage... They have also ramped up hiring of direct entry cadets (Nationals + PR) also for both Scoot and SQ.
If no one from the non-national list has been called up - its seems fair to say that they are name-collecting and not actually hiring foreigners at this stage. Seems odd that they would even try to even advertise - but this is how it has played out..
Cathay on the other hand IS hiring - and although the t&cs seem far less than before... the chances to keep your careers and licenses alive seem better there for now..
For info - NONE of the foreign nationals (~160 Scoot/SQ combined) that were retrenched in September 2020 have been called back or asked to re-apply. Those that have re-applied, without PR status - have NOT received a reply/offer to interview. @SQ, many of the FO's that were retrenched were in fact hired as Cadet Pilots by SQ; and even they have not been called back. It appears that any hiring effort is concentrated on locals (nationals + PR) only at this stage... They have also ramped up hiring of direct entry cadets (Nationals + PR) also for both Scoot and SQ.
If no one from the non-national list has been called up - its seems fair to say that they are name-collecting and not actually hiring foreigners at this stage. Seems odd that they would even try to even advertise - but this is how it has played out..
Cathay on the other hand IS hiring - and although the t&cs seem far less than before... the chances to keep your careers and licenses alive seem better there for now..
By and large, things will have to change significantly for the group to have any chance of crewing 50 x ERJ's in one of the most expensive places on earth, to live and play 
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Hey all,
What's the latest over at SQ for DEFO's? Just got my application in. Figured it's a long shot, but we will see. About 4,000 TT with about 1500 of that US Part 121 time.
Is commuting permitted on own time? Say, if one were living in a nearby Asian country, with a few options a day for a flight to SIN, would this be allowed or strictly prohibited?
How are rosters looking for the more junior FO's? Bidding for trips, reserve, etc?
What's the latest over at SQ for DEFO's? Just got my application in. Figured it's a long shot, but we will see. About 4,000 TT with about 1500 of that US Part 121 time.
Is commuting permitted on own time? Say, if one were living in a nearby Asian country, with a few options a day for a flight to SIN, would this be allowed or strictly prohibited?
How are rosters looking for the more junior FO's? Bidding for trips, reserve, etc?
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Hey all,
What's the latest over at SQ for DEFO's? Just got my application in. Figured it's a long shot, but we will see. About 4,000 TT with about 1500 of that US Part 121 time.
Is commuting permitted on own time? Say, if one were living in a nearby Asian country, with a few options a day for a flight to SIN, would this be allowed or strictly prohibited?
How are rosters looking for the more junior FO's? Bidding for trips, reserve, etc?
What's the latest over at SQ for DEFO's? Just got my application in. Figured it's a long shot, but we will see. About 4,000 TT with about 1500 of that US Part 121 time.
Is commuting permitted on own time? Say, if one were living in a nearby Asian country, with a few options a day for a flight to SIN, would this be allowed or strictly prohibited?
How are rosters looking for the more junior FO's? Bidding for trips, reserve, etc?
Looks like everything is moving a bit slow in terms of expat pilots. Myself been waiting for a while to be called.
As far as I know it's not a commuting contract. You might get more off days if you are on the B777 or A350 but on the 737 off days are less. You are free to go anywhere during your days off but at your own risk.
However good news is the airline is doing well and they need pilots. The question now is how many they will hire outside singapore.
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Yeah I was kind of hoping to see what a typical month in the life of a relatively junior FO at SQ looks like. This way I could gauge how often I'd be able to get back home during days off.
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I did speak to some pilots working there, company is good and roster is decent except on the 737 but if you want to commute very far let's say Euripe or US then it's difficult but if you living around the Asian region or India then it's doable. Rosters seems to be more or less random but you can swap.
However it's best for someone who is currently working there to give the exact picture about it now.
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Hello, everyone!
Im also curious to know if any expats who applied in the past 60 days have anything new to share with us. My application was sent around a month ago. Currently hold a Frozen ATPL, with 4200 TT, of which 3300 are on 737s.
Thank you! And best of luck for those who are also waiting for an email haha.
Cheers!
Im also curious to know if any expats who applied in the past 60 days have anything new to share with us. My application was sent around a month ago. Currently hold a Frozen ATPL, with 4200 TT, of which 3300 are on 737s.
Thank you! And best of luck for those who are also waiting for an email haha.
Cheers!
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Trip bids? Forget about it. There is a system, but the system doesn't give a sh*t about your seniority (how many points you bid), it only considers if the algo (extremely buggy and often schedules illegal/non compliant trips) views your roster as "optimal". You get 2 "off day bids" or 1 trip bid per month. If you bid 1 day off, you don't get a trip bid. If you bid a trip, you don't get to bid a day off. And it doesn't care if your bid is successful.
On the mandatory CLA days off (2 a week), you are required to inform the company if you leave base. On days above and beyond the CLA days off, you are required to seek permission.
Having worked there for over ten years I totally agreed with everything stated. In addition, while I was there, if rostering saw that you had three or four days "off" they immediately rostered "stand by" periods to ensure that you could not go anywhere.
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Singapore Air has such a good product and reputation in the flying publics eyes.
Under the covers it seems they treat their crew like rubbish ... place needs to be burnt to the ground....
Under the covers it seems they treat their crew like rubbish ... place needs to be burnt to the ground....
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Last I heard, they are short on staff and are working with the local ministry of labour. The ministry wants them to go after the locals first for obvious reasons but they believe they have exhausted all of the local resources. So I guess now it's a matter of time before the ministry allow them to start calling up expats. fingers crossed
Hello, everyone!
Im also curious to know if any expats who applied in the past 60 days have anything new to share with us. My application was sent around a month ago. Currently hold a Frozen ATPL, with 4200 TT, of which 3300 are on 737s.
Thank you! And best of luck for those who are also waiting for an email haha.
Cheers!
Im also curious to know if any expats who applied in the past 60 days have anything new to share with us. My application was sent around a month ago. Currently hold a Frozen ATPL, with 4200 TT, of which 3300 are on 737s.
Thank you! And best of luck for those who are also waiting for an email haha.
Cheers!