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Just heard that nicky whoselan is being investigated for CBT and had been asked to resign...can anyone confirm this?
Years ago during meetings with Dr Con and other divisional heads, Am and whoselan never failed to impress with their " melayu baru " credentials. I remember asking one of their contemporaries whether this was true; he said ruefully " this is as good as it gets, you MAS guys has to live with it...errrr, I am jumping ship! " Some time later, I saw the writing on the wall as Am's sidekicks made inroads into MAPA ( the same flying school class curse....think about the past Australian flying school curse in MAS, MCKK curse on bolehland etc ), I too jumped ship!
Years ago during meetings with Dr Con and other divisional heads, Am and whoselan never failed to impress with their " melayu baru " credentials. I remember asking one of their contemporaries whether this was true; he said ruefully " this is as good as it gets, you MAS guys has to live with it...errrr, I am jumping ship! " Some time later, I saw the writing on the wall as Am's sidekicks made inroads into MAPA ( the same flying school class curse....think about the past Australian flying school curse in MAS, MCKK curse on bolehland etc ), I too jumped ship!
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Why the angst about Capt. Am? He is generally well liked. Maybe he did complain about a certain MAPA prez charging into his office, planting himself on the chair with feet up and puffing away Al Capone style; but then that MAPA clown was surely way out of line. Is this all pay back?
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I can only offer this advice to the new DFO...bertaubatlah. You are now in a position where you can atone for the injustices of the system that brought you to the top. I know that some of those injustice was none of your deliberate doing but the result of " scheming " of certain quarters and also of the powers that be. However you can do a lot to undo some of the damage........as the result of your bypassing others, some were really left disillusioned by the whole MAS promotional set up that they just up and left. We really lost some good talents; unambitious people who are no threat to anyone but who can really add to MAS super talent pool by their mere presence. I know personally of a few towering individuals who harbour no threat to your postion but were so cheesed off by the conniving tricks of your group of batch mates that they just left...believe me, their mere presence would have added great sense of professionalism and unquestionable competence as well as integrity to our ranks of Malaysian Airlines aviators! Do the right thing!
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whoselan and am
Ahhh, for nicki whoselan it's been long time coming. Se pandai pandainya tupai melompat akhirnya ke tanah juga. Why don't people just get it?
As for izham, nasree is right. He has the chance to set things right but like our political masters, he will be constrained by vested interests all around him. I remember the days when yusof nasir was besieged with computer spreadsheets showing him all the great savings and advantages of being a hero if he stuck to plan put forth the the present set of cronies now propping up 'am. So the A330 boys made a quantumleap frogging over their seniors. This was a small part of the bigger inane plans of the earlier ketuanism that had let to the talent drain.
As for izham, nasree is right. He has the chance to set things right but like our political masters, he will be constrained by vested interests all around him. I remember the days when yusof nasir was besieged with computer spreadsheets showing him all the great savings and advantages of being a hero if he stuck to plan put forth the the present set of cronies now propping up 'am. So the A330 boys made a quantumleap frogging over their seniors. This was a small part of the bigger inane plans of the earlier ketuanism that had let to the talent drain.
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Doing the right thing to avoid talent drain
I fully agree with wise old nasree; do something to atone for past injustices.
Many suns ago in my younger days as trainee f/o on the B734 I almost fell by the wayside. My fellow Melayu instructors gave up on me; I was allowed some last chance before being washed out. A young non Malay instructor took me under his wings ( I think the superiors pushed me to him, hoping that he would chop me off for good so taking the blame of washing out a young Malay talent ). Miraculously he showed me the ropes, refusing to give up on me sitting through the short night stops in KCH, KUA, BKI and MYY to bring me up to minimum standards to qualify for final line check. Thanks to his guidance and common sense approach to flying, I almost aced my final check much to the amazement of the TRE; but my interview even after my good performance in the final line check was a near disaster. I was pilloried, trashed and made to feel so small that I could have crawl into a hermit crab shell. However that non Malay instructor just told me to take it in my stride, ignore the " sikit atas punya melayu " as he put it and go on to bigger things.
Sadly he was a victim of the bypass fiasco, and became the first few to leave for greener pastures. What a loss for MAS and what a greater loss for the nation. With his training skills, great rapport with all the local staff by virtue of his impeccable command of english and malay he should have been a great asset. The only thing is that he was too proud and principled to capitalised on all his language and training skills to brown nose himself to higher positions or ingratiate himself to the management. I remember telling him that he should seek to be in the management, he replied that he feared that he would be made a tool by the management to screw fellow pilots. Sadly such talents got screwed instead.
So will the new broom do the right thing? I think not. Very sad, I don't have much hope. What can he do? The very crooks who benefited from the bypass thingy are sitting pretty in MAPA; so MAPA ain't gonna agree with management to do away with the bypass or pay bypass pay.
Many suns ago in my younger days as trainee f/o on the B734 I almost fell by the wayside. My fellow Melayu instructors gave up on me; I was allowed some last chance before being washed out. A young non Malay instructor took me under his wings ( I think the superiors pushed me to him, hoping that he would chop me off for good so taking the blame of washing out a young Malay talent ). Miraculously he showed me the ropes, refusing to give up on me sitting through the short night stops in KCH, KUA, BKI and MYY to bring me up to minimum standards to qualify for final line check. Thanks to his guidance and common sense approach to flying, I almost aced my final check much to the amazement of the TRE; but my interview even after my good performance in the final line check was a near disaster. I was pilloried, trashed and made to feel so small that I could have crawl into a hermit crab shell. However that non Malay instructor just told me to take it in my stride, ignore the " sikit atas punya melayu " as he put it and go on to bigger things.
Sadly he was a victim of the bypass fiasco, and became the first few to leave for greener pastures. What a loss for MAS and what a greater loss for the nation. With his training skills, great rapport with all the local staff by virtue of his impeccable command of english and malay he should have been a great asset. The only thing is that he was too proud and principled to capitalised on all his language and training skills to brown nose himself to higher positions or ingratiate himself to the management. I remember telling him that he should seek to be in the management, he replied that he feared that he would be made a tool by the management to screw fellow pilots. Sadly such talents got screwed instead.
So will the new broom do the right thing? I think not. Very sad, I don't have much hope. What can he do? The very crooks who benefited from the bypass thingy are sitting pretty in MAPA; so MAPA ain't gonna agree with management to do away with the bypass or pay bypass pay.
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Ha ha ha....don't hold your breath, you will turn blue and keel over dead.
Rajamuda, do what your benefactor did.............up and leave for the greener pastures. That's the sensible thing to do. Don't wait for the management and mapa to ever do the right thing!
Rajamuda, do what your benefactor did.............up and leave for the greener pastures. That's the sensible thing to do. Don't wait for the management and mapa to ever do the right thing!
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Oh puhleeze, don't give me the non Malay goodie ****! He probably think you were a real dunggu who needs all the extra tuition waiting for your eternal gratitude. Maybe put in a good word for him when he gets into trouble in the future! Capt Izham should do well to steer clear of all these rubbish and get on the job of doing us all proud of our NATIONAL interest.
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bungacengkeh is surely bigotted and a wet rag.
Like rajamuda I too had the privilege of training under some fine non Bumi instructors who imparted their knowhow to me without reservations or any thought of reward. Sadly, we were powerless to see those talents leaving. If I ever get to the top I would surely do everything possible to get those fine gentlemen back to MAS. Besides there were several fine bumi guys who had upped and left and I would endeavour to get them back too.
Like rajamuda I too had the privilege of training under some fine non Bumi instructors who imparted their knowhow to me without reservations or any thought of reward. Sadly, we were powerless to see those talents leaving. If I ever get to the top I would surely do everything possible to get those fine gentlemen back to MAS. Besides there were several fine bumi guys who had upped and left and I would endeavour to get them back too.
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rajamuda, I think I know who you were referring to but I don't think he upped and went because he was bypassed. I had met him sometime before his departure and he told me an interesting story of why he left although he was mighty disappointed at being bypassed.
nicky whoselan had a good ride and I am sure he can retire to enjoy any ill gotten gains if he plays his cards right.
nicky whoselan had a good ride and I am sure he can retire to enjoy any ill gotten gains if he plays his cards right.
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Again puhleeze spare us the nonsense of do gooders. There were there as instructors to teach and they had better teach or be sacked.
STOP trying to make heroes out of those traitors who left for the big bucks; good riddance. It's pretty silly and upsetting to see impressionable fella like you so grateful to those traitors. Get a grip fellas!
STOP trying to make heroes out of those traitors who left for the big bucks; good riddance. It's pretty silly and upsetting to see impressionable fella like you so grateful to those traitors. Get a grip fellas!
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Bunga Apa?
Again after so many years we have people like bunga who spew venom to those who left MAS as if we've broken a vow to always stay in MAS.So yes, we left for a better pay, if you can get a better pay by moving, why not?
There are thousands of people who change jobs daily so that they can provide a better life for their family, are they traitors? I think not.
Obviously, you're not in training, if not, you would know that we do our job in the sim and aircraft. We don't have to when we're at the hotel during nightstops. So for that training capt. to take the time to give extra instruction at layovers is commandable. And for rajamuda to owe a sense of gratitude is as the malay proverb says, hutang budi di bawa ke mati.
And puhleeze la, don't start with we're not grateful to MAS thingy. If we didn't leave, things would not have change as it is now. Just get your head out of the sand and see that there are still alot of work to be done in MAS instead of saying semua O.K.
There are thousands of people who change jobs daily so that they can provide a better life for their family, are they traitors? I think not.
Obviously, you're not in training, if not, you would know that we do our job in the sim and aircraft. We don't have to when we're at the hotel during nightstops. So for that training capt. to take the time to give extra instruction at layovers is commandable. And for rajamuda to owe a sense of gratitude is as the malay proverb says, hutang budi di bawa ke mati.
And puhleeze la, don't start with we're not grateful to MAS thingy. If we didn't leave, things would not have change as it is now. Just get your head out of the sand and see that there are still alot of work to be done in MAS instead of saying semua O.K.
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Everyone who leaves their country is a traitor! Yee Haa hang em high!
MH will always be an OK legacy carrier but if I was a pilot I would be worried because the company is going down the path of being broken in two.... ie MH and Firefly.
I believe Mohd. Nor Yusoff had the game plan and IJ wanted to implement it but there was no political will.
I dare say it will mirror the plan TPG and Macquarie bank had in place if their take over of QF went through!
MH will always be an OK legacy carrier but if I was a pilot I would be worried because the company is going down the path of being broken in two.... ie MH and Firefly.
I believe Mohd. Nor Yusoff had the game plan and IJ wanted to implement it but there was no political will.
I dare say it will mirror the plan TPG and Macquarie bank had in place if their take over of QF went through!
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bungacengkeh's logic reminds me of slave drivers......non Malay instructors are to be like mindless slaves, " had better teach or be sacked ". I had uncles who were professors and lecturers in UM, UPM and ITM who imparted their knowledge unreservedly to ungrateful pseudo native scums; their students upon graduation got post graduate scholarships to pursue useless MBA, PHD programs and then came back demanding super high positions without any fundamental work. Most stabbed their former benefactors in the back besides spewing racist vitriol they amassed during their BTN seminars.
rajamuda, you earn my respect with your sense of gratitude. Believe me, it makes you a real decent human and will surely stand in your good stead in the future.
rajamuda, you earn my respect with your sense of gratitude. Believe me, it makes you a real decent human and will surely stand in your good stead in the future.
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Ehhh, itu Kepten 'Am nampaknya ada mata sepet sikit. Barangkali dia tu ada DNA cinakui kot?
My take on MAS/MAPA scumbags. Useless dickheads without no sense of honour or any sense of natural justice. I had chums who were played out when they were based in Myanmar and Cambodia years ago. Scumbags restricted their seniors' ( they were " management pilots " in charge of MAS's foray into Myanmar and Cambodia ) flying hours to only 20-30 a month with their very " creative " rostering whilst amassing 80-90 hours monthly themselves to ensure that they would be promoted earlier up the 777s. Some of these scumbags are now in management positions and MAPA leadership positions. So gonna case lah fairplay.
My take on MAS/MAPA scumbags. Useless dickheads without no sense of honour or any sense of natural justice. I had chums who were played out when they were based in Myanmar and Cambodia years ago. Scumbags restricted their seniors' ( they were " management pilots " in charge of MAS's foray into Myanmar and Cambodia ) flying hours to only 20-30 a month with their very " creative " rostering whilst amassing 80-90 hours monthly themselves to ensure that they would be promoted earlier up the 777s. Some of these scumbags are now in management positions and MAPA leadership positions. So gonna case lah fairplay.
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been reading all these posts but smhw not felt compelled to write anything till now. seems sm ppl are badmouthing mapa; they were elected by majority vote so if u dont like them get them out n elect new ppl in, its been done before. the same cannot be said abt management of crse
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for what is worth, rajamuda, the greener pastures do not seem to be very kind to your kind old instructor. met him at food alley akl somer time ago, was shocked to see almost a total silver head of hair. we had quite a long talk and i think fez int'l is right he wasn't that pissed off at the bypass thingy ( he kind of expected those fellas to do it, so he said ). he was more concerned about the future of bolehland and me thinks he's right even though i do not agree with his pessimism. i too benefitted a lot from his advice and guidance and he was mighty glad that i did well. when i told him of what i am doing , he was extremely glad. he thanked me for doing him proud. he had once told me " my aim is to make you a better pilot than me; if you turn out just like me I must have failed as there is no progress. if you become better than me, i must have done something right! " a down to earth cinapek with no airs about him. a rarety in essence.
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sampan, are you sure you're grateful? Calling someone cinapek isn't very respectful, grow up!
I guess the greener pastures are not for everyone. True bolehland is going downhill but MAS is still relatively nice to have a career in.
I guess the greener pastures are not for everyone. True bolehland is going downhill but MAS is still relatively nice to have a career in.
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Cinapek? I think not. If the person is the one I think you are referring to, his BM was pretty good. Only problem is he was abit different and strange. Had a base check and IRR with him as a TRE under check by company TRE together with the DCA inspector. My captain used Jepessen charts together with his own sketch of the chart with some notations. DCA inspector indicated that because my captain used non standard charts it was a failure point. We were devastated. However this so called " cinapek " countermanded the DCA inspector and passed my captain and me! His argument to the DCA inspector, my captain had used real Jeppesen charts for the " approach briefing " and " primary reference ". The hand drawn chart was only an " aid de memoire ". So the DCA inspector accepted the pass after a lengthy argument. I was indeed very grateful that the " cinapek " stood his ground eventhough THAT WAS HIS own TRE CHECK SIMULATOR SESSION! Thinking back it was amazing but at that point I was mighty glad it was all over and we passed. I was sure my captain must had been very relieved; however he never really show anything.
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Bypass and dirty tricks
The bypass in the 90s were done with the complicity of mapa. The dirty tricks of
restricting the flying hours of seniors who were posted to Myanmar and Cambodia were all the work some little maharajalelas who were hoisted to positions well above their stations; dirt bags who wantonly abused their positions the moment they were given a little power. All symptoms of the malaise we call Malaysia boleh. What next? NAME and SHAME these dirt bags!
restricting the flying hours of seniors who were posted to Myanmar and Cambodia were all the work some little maharajalelas who were hoisted to positions well above their stations; dirt bags who wantonly abused their positions the moment they were given a little power. All symptoms of the malaise we call Malaysia boleh. What next? NAME and SHAME these dirt bags!