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Has Jetstar Asia Prepared
Like I mentioned earlier, I think Jetstar Asia may hard to absorb in RSAF guys . The only group of people left to be chosen are civilians and must be rich enough to pay for the training. The civilians are either CAAS or foreign licence holders. Futher narrowing down, only a handful who can afford.To know who can afford or not, all applicants have to be called for inteview. This could be the only way to find out.The first 40 for the ACP or the initial batch of ACP are the guinea pigs. I wonder has Jetstar Asia prepared?
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i think they will have to adjust the number according to the response they get from ACP.. it's like "testing water"
if there's alot, then it's fine
or else, they will have to do some adjustments to the requirements..
if there's alot, then it's fine
or else, they will have to do some adjustments to the requirements..
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Folks,
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but there are well over 300 applications for the ACP alone as of this date and counting. The price being requested is acceptable to many experienced ACP candidates, quite a few that have been airline pilot's in the past, some with lapsed licenses, looking to get their feet wet again.
Even a direct entry First Officer, Singaporean or Foreigner, JetStarAisa or Tiger Airways, has to fork out S$60,000 ($30,000 upfront and the additional via salary deduction) for the A320 Type Rating. The only difference is that with Tiger Airways the training is done in France and for JetStarAsia at Alteon Training. Competition for direct entry has been from Foreigners with good jet experience for many years now.
So there are lots of experienced people in the wings, many with Jet Time, that are more than anxious than ever to apply and go through the ACP just to be able to return to the cockpit.
Please do not bombard me with replies that I am full of crap... in many ways aviation is very very challenging... go ahead and hang around Seletar East Camp for a couple of days and you will see what I mean by the people with Jet time looking for a job... or visit the hall ways of Tamesik or Republic Poly aviation program and asks the very experienced pilots, current or not, that work there as lecturers...
None of this is meant to discourage you, in fact if my own son was old enough, I would have him applying for the full course ab-initio myself... just felt this posting was due so that we all can stay within the realm of reality...
Good luck and god bless all... stay focused and you will make it...
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but there are well over 300 applications for the ACP alone as of this date and counting. The price being requested is acceptable to many experienced ACP candidates, quite a few that have been airline pilot's in the past, some with lapsed licenses, looking to get their feet wet again.
Even a direct entry First Officer, Singaporean or Foreigner, JetStarAisa or Tiger Airways, has to fork out S$60,000 ($30,000 upfront and the additional via salary deduction) for the A320 Type Rating. The only difference is that with Tiger Airways the training is done in France and for JetStarAsia at Alteon Training. Competition for direct entry has been from Foreigners with good jet experience for many years now.
So there are lots of experienced people in the wings, many with Jet Time, that are more than anxious than ever to apply and go through the ACP just to be able to return to the cockpit.
Please do not bombard me with replies that I am full of crap... in many ways aviation is very very challenging... go ahead and hang around Seletar East Camp for a couple of days and you will see what I mean by the people with Jet time looking for a job... or visit the hall ways of Tamesik or Republic Poly aviation program and asks the very experienced pilots, current or not, that work there as lecturers...
None of this is meant to discourage you, in fact if my own son was old enough, I would have him applying for the full course ab-initio myself... just felt this posting was due so that we all can stay within the realm of reality...
Good luck and god bless all... stay focused and you will make it...
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Stallone is right. Wow...Wow...Wow over 300 applications? Shocking. EEK! Are they all red passport holders? Hm...300 applicants can't get into SIA/Silkair and eager to folk out money to join Jetstar Asia? Hm...300 applicants probably earn well in the past, therefore can afford to pay. They may be old, experienced and rich too. If yes, how old are they? Wonder can their age be considered by Jetstar Asia in order to serve them long term?
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Well, they are not all with Red Singapore Passport holders either, plenty with just a PR (Blue I/C) who were forced out of aviation due to previous medical's, economic forces, etc.
Actually, 300 is a very small number, people did not spread the word to limit competition... but it still comes down to who you know, not what you know many times... and most are in their 40's too... in fact how many Red Passport Holders with military Jet time at SYFC servicing as Flight Instructors...
Does anybody have any information as to when ACP will start their interviews please...
Actually, 300 is a very small number, people did not spread the word to limit competition... but it still comes down to who you know, not what you know many times... and most are in their 40's too... in fact how many Red Passport Holders with military Jet time at SYFC servicing as Flight Instructors...
Does anybody have any information as to when ACP will start their interviews please...
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Thanks PNY! :-) If I have not mistaken, one of OAA Minimum Entry Requirements previously stated was for Singapore Citizens only. Hah...Jetstar Asia finally realised that they can't get enough (Singapore Citizen) applicants, so they lifted their barriers to P.R. (blue i/c). Looks like 300 applicants are likely to be rich and qualified P.R. applicants. If that's the case, ACP will work. Like what you mentioned - "who you know, not what you know many times". This is very true and I agree with you.
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SPR has always been a criteria when i first read it back in December
but SPR with 700hrs is weird.. i mean, what are they doing in singapore??
Singapore has no GA, nothing at all..
but SPR with 700hrs is weird.. i mean, what are they doing in singapore??
Singapore has no GA, nothing at all..
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People are here as SPR in Singapore, some with thousands of hours, due to turmoil in the aviation industry back home... there are lots of them around too. Even an average SYFC Flight Instructor at Seletar, a Singaproe Citizen with military jet time, may decide this is a good deal for himself.
No GA, you must be ill informed, go to WingsOverAsia and check it out please...
Keep the faith... they will have to retire well before you ... good luck!
No GA, you must be ill informed, go to WingsOverAsia and check it out please...
Keep the faith... they will have to retire well before you ... good luck!
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seriously, there's GA jobs in the website?
i don't see anything significant
seriously, there's GA jobs in the website?
i don't see anything significant
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Mr Stallone,
You have convinced me through your postings that I should not waste time trying to assist people young enough to be my son's let alone motivate them all together.
Since having arrived in Singapore in 2005, for the 2nd time, I have gotten my last 2 flying jobs by networking alone and I provided you an avenue to do so and hoped that you would take the hint. I have even personally hired people here into flying jobs that met me via networking bacause in life much is who you know and not what you know.
I really do not wish to waste my time with more negativity that you will bring and humbly suggest that you ask your self who you are and who you want to be every single day and then perhaps your Directioanl Gyro will align with the Magnetic Compass and you will make it someday.
That having been said, I wish each and everyone of you well, and pray for blue skies and tailwinds always. However, I have been in aviation long enough to know that life is just not so. God bless one and all.
You have convinced me through your postings that I should not waste time trying to assist people young enough to be my son's let alone motivate them all together.
Since having arrived in Singapore in 2005, for the 2nd time, I have gotten my last 2 flying jobs by networking alone and I provided you an avenue to do so and hoped that you would take the hint. I have even personally hired people here into flying jobs that met me via networking bacause in life much is who you know and not what you know.
I really do not wish to waste my time with more negativity that you will bring and humbly suggest that you ask your self who you are and who you want to be every single day and then perhaps your Directioanl Gyro will align with the Magnetic Compass and you will make it someday.
That having been said, I wish each and everyone of you well, and pray for blue skies and tailwinds always. However, I have been in aviation long enough to know that life is just not so. God bless one and all.
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i would be disappointed if this is true, especially in aviation industry that i have passion and believe in. i actually came across situation where this is true (SIA cadet pilot), where one candidate is a close church friend with one interviewer captain. the candidate's final interview only lasted for 7 mins and he got selected anyway.
if this is the rule in aviation, i guess for aspiring pilots like us, we can only play by it, expanding ur contacts to the cockpit. it is kinda sad, but its understandable how the society (not only airlines) works.
Since having arrived in Singapore in 2005, for the 2nd time, I have gotten my last 2 flying jobs by networking alone and I provided you an avenue to do so and hoped that you would take the hint. I have even personally hired people here into flying jobs that met me via networking bacause in life much is who you know and not what you know.
if this is the rule in aviation, i guess for aspiring pilots like us, we can only play by it, expanding ur contacts to the cockpit. it is kinda sad, but its understandable how the society (not only airlines) works.
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dagger19, you are right. Everywhere is the same (not only in aviation industry). I am not surprise SIA did. Almost every pilot in Air India has connection! Even in MAS and AirAsia too! One real life example: More women pilots flying Conclusion after watching: Zephina Khanam got into AirAsia because of her kins. Then, Ong Sook Min got into AirAsia because of her husband.
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No no, you can certainly still make it without connections but there are times in life when having networked and having you name known to the powers to be, even if they do not know you personally, makes all the difference folks... so plug away hard, network too, and you WILL make it!!!
Never ever give up on your life's dreams, for if I did with all that has gone wrong in my life, I would have been dead many times over... think positively and somehow things will eventually work out in your favor and you will be pleasantly surprised!
Never ever give up on your life's dreams, for if I did with all that has gone wrong in my life, I would have been dead many times over... think positively and somehow things will eventually work out in your favor and you will be pleasantly surprised!
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I've not followed this thread for quite some time, having failed the 1st round assessment...
Nevertheless, I hope that those went through the interview will make it
All the best! And don't forget to tell us the good news!
Nevertheless, I hope that those went through the interview will make it
All the best! And don't forget to tell us the good news!
