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actually why do u say so? care to elaborate? why less than 10?
anybody know people that actually went thru OAA ab initio program? another point i was thinking, can OAA actually start the program if Jetstar really decided to take in like less den 10 cadets? To me, it doesnt make sense to do so much work, set up so much logistics to cater for less than 10 cadets. OAA is actually setting up dedicated Ground Training Centre in Singapore for all CAAS approved ATPL Theoretical Knowledge Training. there's pretty much administration stuff to prepare for this.. and im sure they won't wanna do just for a few cadets.
just trying to be positive here and hoping jetstar is taking in a large number!
anybody know people that actually went thru OAA ab initio program? another point i was thinking, can OAA actually start the program if Jetstar really decided to take in like less den 10 cadets? To me, it doesnt make sense to do so much work, set up so much logistics to cater for less than 10 cadets. OAA is actually setting up dedicated Ground Training Centre in Singapore for all CAAS approved ATPL Theoretical Knowledge Training. there's pretty much administration stuff to prepare for this.. and im sure they won't wanna do just for a few cadets.
just trying to be positive here and hoping jetstar is taking in a large number!
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yes, the 31st Jan deadline can only be seen when you submit your interest, it can't be found anywhere in the FAQ page
as for 70 pilots, they're continuously increasing destinations, not sure about how many A320s will there be 18months later, but 70 is not a lot considering the number of flight crew that is attached to an aircraft
for example:
one plane needs 10 sets of crews to operate to its maximum capacity.
1 set = 2 pilots + 4 cabin crew
10 sets = 20 pilots + 40 cabin crew
currently they have fleet size of 12 x A320
12 planes = 12x20 pilots + 12x40 cabin crew
so ya, that's quite a lot of pilots needed..
as for 70 pilots, they're continuously increasing destinations, not sure about how many A320s will there be 18months later, but 70 is not a lot considering the number of flight crew that is attached to an aircraft
for example:
one plane needs 10 sets of crews to operate to its maximum capacity.
1 set = 2 pilots + 4 cabin crew
10 sets = 20 pilots + 40 cabin crew
currently they have fleet size of 12 x A320
12 planes = 12x20 pilots + 12x40 cabin crew
so ya, that's quite a lot of pilots needed..
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is it 10 set? more like 10 per aircraft. do not think its the former. and not forgetting, they already have pilots to fly the 12 planes right now.
they will be setting up the ground school with a long term vision and not just for this intake i guess.
just some guess, but i am just trying to be realistic.
they will be setting up the ground school with a long term vision and not just for this intake i guess.
just some guess, but i am just trying to be realistic.
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ok, let's create a scenario
Plane A - A320
Pilot pairs: A1 - A10 (10 sets)
let's say Plane A flies to HKG twice daily, 6am flight and 6pm flight from SIN
To and fro takes around 7.5hrs at least
MONDAY - A1(am), A2(pm)
TUESDAY - A3(am), A4(pm)
WEDNESDAY - A2(am), A1(pm)
THURSDAY - A4(am), A3(pm)
FRIDAY - A1(am), A2(pm)
SATURDAY - A3(am), A4(pm)
SUNDAY - A2(am), A1(pm)
let's say pilots work every alternate days, this is the above roster roughly
when the plane comes back from HKG at 1.30pm, it will not idle at the airport, it will fly a short trip to maybe Penang or KL and back (twice) before 6pm for its second trip to HKG.. That's where pilot pairs A5-A8 comes in.. A9 and A10 will be on standby or on rotation since pilots usually dun work as frequently as alternate days
how about the time between 1.30am and 6am?? ground the plane at airport?
does 10sets of pilot pairs look a lot to you now?
Plane A - A320
Pilot pairs: A1 - A10 (10 sets)
let's say Plane A flies to HKG twice daily, 6am flight and 6pm flight from SIN
To and fro takes around 7.5hrs at least
MONDAY - A1(am), A2(pm)
TUESDAY - A3(am), A4(pm)
WEDNESDAY - A2(am), A1(pm)
THURSDAY - A4(am), A3(pm)
FRIDAY - A1(am), A2(pm)
SATURDAY - A3(am), A4(pm)
SUNDAY - A2(am), A1(pm)
let's say pilots work every alternate days, this is the above roster roughly
when the plane comes back from HKG at 1.30pm, it will not idle at the airport, it will fly a short trip to maybe Penang or KL and back (twice) before 6pm for its second trip to HKG.. That's where pilot pairs A5-A8 comes in.. A9 and A10 will be on standby or on rotation since pilots usually dun work as frequently as alternate days
how about the time between 1.30am and 6am?? ground the plane at airport?
does 10sets of pilot pairs look a lot to you now?
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jetstar is expanding, as u all know, there will be 2 new routes in march, and they are acquiring another a330.
as for setting up ground school, jamelica u were saying about long term goal. actually there isn't much airlines in SG that will train cadet pilots. SQ got its own training centre. Tiger airways affiliated to SQ so i doubt they will come up with any training program.
most of other airlines basically got their own training centres in other countries. So i don't see any potential customers for OAA other than Jetstar. Looking from OAA point of view, i'm sure they won't risk setting up for a small intake at the start. And it seems like only Jetstar will be engaging their services from this region. And I don't see Jetstar needing even more pilots in the future as they will have their own pool of bonded pilots from this ab initio and ACP. trying to be positive here
as for setting up ground school, jamelica u were saying about long term goal. actually there isn't much airlines in SG that will train cadet pilots. SQ got its own training centre. Tiger airways affiliated to SQ so i doubt they will come up with any training program.
most of other airlines basically got their own training centres in other countries. So i don't see any potential customers for OAA other than Jetstar. Looking from OAA point of view, i'm sure they won't risk setting up for a small intake at the start. And it seems like only Jetstar will be engaging their services from this region. And I don't see Jetstar needing even more pilots in the future as they will have their own pool of bonded pilots from this ab initio and ACP. trying to be positive here
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Anyone went thru the Jetstar 3rd Stage?
I am told that i have passed the 2nd stage and how long does it takes to go to the 3rd stage?
Will jetstar agree on my company notice period if my notice period is 2 months?
Kinda worried.
Will jetstar agree on my company notice period if my notice period is 2 months?
Kinda worried.
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need not worry.. if you can't meet the March batch, you can always go for the later batch, hopefully they won't forget you..
as for how long Jetstar takes to call, no idea, just wait, but they will call..
as for how long Jetstar takes to call, no idea, just wait, but they will call..
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Thank You
Thanks for the reply. Hopefully they will be fine with that. If not i will need to resign and pay a penalty of 13k. You really think they will be alright?
Have anyone been contacted for the 3rd stage already?
Have anyone been contacted for the 3rd stage already?
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S$13k is alot of money, enough to feed you during the 18month course..
opt for the later batch, i'm sure it can be worked out
by their word, next batch will probably be in the later half of 2011
opt for the later batch, i'm sure it can be worked out
by their word, next batch will probably be in the later half of 2011
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jetstar do not have the number of training capts sufficient to fly around with cadets hence the limited amount of cadets to go thru
the whole operation will be screwed cause of no flexibility of rosters.......
the whole operation will be screwed cause of no flexibility of rosters.......
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question is, this assessment held last week, are they taking in 30, then give them different start dates, or are they taking only 6?
then next batches further down the year they gonna hold assessments again to take in 6 each time?
then next batches further down the year they gonna hold assessments again to take in 6 each time?
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omg.. 6 cadets!
When I received the email for the OAA skills assessment, I was quite hesitant to pay the $400 and 'try my luck'. As it is, I have a 70k bond hanging over my head in my current employment, which will apply for the next 3 years.
As desperate as I was to get into the cockpit, I chose the coward / safe way out and decided to stick to my current job at least until my bond is over. I just couldnt convince myself to pay the 70k bond to resign now plus the 100k+ bond with jetstar (IF I could get in. Seeing the magic '6' number now, I guess the chances are extremely slim).
Reality sucks.
When I received the email for the OAA skills assessment, I was quite hesitant to pay the $400 and 'try my luck'. As it is, I have a 70k bond hanging over my head in my current employment, which will apply for the next 3 years.
As desperate as I was to get into the cockpit, I chose the coward / safe way out and decided to stick to my current job at least until my bond is over. I just couldnt convince myself to pay the 70k bond to resign now plus the 100k+ bond with jetstar (IF I could get in. Seeing the magic '6' number now, I guess the chances are extremely slim).
Reality sucks.