Air Macau-money trouble
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Congrats Air Macau
Congrats Air Macau "professional" pilots!!!
So the rumors are true, Air Macau pilots are cruel! I can't believe that as "professional" pilots they are putting names. I believe that personal attacks have no place on these threads. Pls leave your frustration for your wifes, gf, or massage girls! I ask the moderator to erase any thread that has any names or is distasteful. Come on guys, Air Macau can be so much more but unfortunately guys like Hazel250 thinks he is the best there and that the company should only hire guys like him. If he thinks he is that good, then maybe he should have a CP or DFO position and only hire guys like himself or his girlfriend. Air Macau gives opportunities to guys who don't have jet time or low timers. These guys are no better, no smatter, no less good than any other person in this industry. They are probably doing the best they can and I strongly believe that everyone deserves a chance! As for the names mentioned here, guys, if you don't like the dude, why waste your time writing about him and his entourage? Cheers mates and start behaving like professionals. Hope your airline will stop bleeding and get better!
So the rumors are true, Air Macau pilots are cruel! I can't believe that as "professional" pilots they are putting names. I believe that personal attacks have no place on these threads. Pls leave your frustration for your wifes, gf, or massage girls! I ask the moderator to erase any thread that has any names or is distasteful. Come on guys, Air Macau can be so much more but unfortunately guys like Hazel250 thinks he is the best there and that the company should only hire guys like him. If he thinks he is that good, then maybe he should have a CP or DFO position and only hire guys like himself or his girlfriend. Air Macau gives opportunities to guys who don't have jet time or low timers. These guys are no better, no smatter, no less good than any other person in this industry. They are probably doing the best they can and I strongly believe that everyone deserves a chance! As for the names mentioned here, guys, if you don't like the dude, why waste your time writing about him and his entourage? Cheers mates and start behaving like professionals. Hope your airline will stop bleeding and get better!
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Nice pilots!
I am positively surprised how professional the pilots and crews of Air Macau pilots and crews are. This shows that the fight between the pygmies war – lasting for years already – is not yet over. 
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I see that its not just the pilots in Air Macau that have a mature attitude to life, from the recent newspaper reports, it seems that once again the management of this company is refusing to face reality and admit its circumstances. 
To the Chinese Newspapers, they say that the investors have already agreed to re-invest on the company.
But the Macau Daily Times, quite correctly stated that this is not so, but rather, the investors are waiting for a complete report on the financial health of the company before deciding what to do.
What is certain, as has been rumoured since the beginning of the year, is that up to three aircraft will be leased out, to prevent them, from being cannibalised out to keep the others flying, and act that the aircraft lessors are not too keen on.
Now all that remains is to find out are the conditions for this lease. Last time, AACM was quite adamant to ensure that the cabin crew that operated within the aircraft were legally rested prior to the flight. Lets see of this time, we can maintain Air Macau procedures, fuel policy, minimum's, etc. or will there be pressure for a certain amount of leniency. Do not forget that when Air Macau withdrew the Aircraft from Beijing, Dragon Air replaced us, but their contract terms were a hundred times better, including the hotel allocated to the crews. Yet another sign of the poor bargaining capabilities of Air Macau management.
Once again, although most of the guys involved are scum, please keep the wives out of this. They neither request to be here, nor did they know what scum their husbands would turn out to be. Kids too, should be left out and definitely no hitting the children of other pilots as has happened in the past.
Grow up once and for all.
To the Chinese Newspapers, they say that the investors have already agreed to re-invest on the company.
But the Macau Daily Times, quite correctly stated that this is not so, but rather, the investors are waiting for a complete report on the financial health of the company before deciding what to do.
What is certain, as has been rumoured since the beginning of the year, is that up to three aircraft will be leased out, to prevent them, from being cannibalised out to keep the others flying, and act that the aircraft lessors are not too keen on.
Now all that remains is to find out are the conditions for this lease. Last time, AACM was quite adamant to ensure that the cabin crew that operated within the aircraft were legally rested prior to the flight. Lets see of this time, we can maintain Air Macau procedures, fuel policy, minimum's, etc. or will there be pressure for a certain amount of leniency. Do not forget that when Air Macau withdrew the Aircraft from Beijing, Dragon Air replaced us, but their contract terms were a hundred times better, including the hotel allocated to the crews. Yet another sign of the poor bargaining capabilities of Air Macau management.
Once again, although most of the guys involved are scum, please keep the wives out of this. They neither request to be here, nor did they know what scum their husbands would turn out to be. Kids too, should be left out and definitely no hitting the children of other pilots as has happened in the past.
Grow up once and for all.
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It will be a bonus to read intelligent posts here. People keep whining, but continue to work in the company. I think self-reflection is needed by most people in the company. At the end of each flight, who are the happiest people inside the plane? It's the cleaners! Something we can be proud about? Grievances must be taken to proper places. If not, all the posts are only tabloid material.
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Since Tsiganul, B747-800,and Zuhai-itcouldfly wrote on this post, the rating of the subject is thumps down, with 2 bars...before it was 4 bars , thumps up...
Please guys, you're not concerned by what happening in AMU, and you have a tiny understanding of the mater...get lost and find another subject to give your poor opinions!
Cheers mates!
Hi to P., and Bushtrash...hope you enjoy the desert and the fatherhood!
Please guys, you're not concerned by what happening in AMU, and you have a tiny understanding of the mater...get lost and find another subject to give your poor opinions!
Cheers mates!
Hi to P., and Bushtrash...hope you enjoy the desert and the fatherhood!
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Breaking NEWS!
From The Great Le Cesar POST yesterday's hearing:
NX CEO saked! Stay till the end of September!
All VP's will follow next!
Chairman takes interim wheel until fresh team takes over!
3 birds will be dispached to CA soon! Much more in the agenda!
A new A320 B-MAX will join in 2 weeks!
No real cash injection so far! Only blabla... to shut media! So... maybe...
No $$$ to pay full salaries after September!
Drivers continue heavely heading to the desert escape path!
More news to come from The Great Le Cesar POST!
Stay tuned!
VROOUM
NX CEO saked!
Stay till the end of September! All VP's will follow next!
Chairman takes interim wheel until fresh team takes over!
3 birds will be dispached to CA soon! Much more in the agenda!
A new A320 B-MAX will join in 2 weeks!
No real cash injection so far! Only blabla... to shut media! So... maybe...
No $$$ to pay full salaries after September!
Drivers continue heavely heading to the desert escape path!
More news to come from The Great Le Cesar POST!
Stay tuned!
VROOUM
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Hey Vrooum,
I was ready to confirm the ''rumours" that our CEO is on his way out!
Could be nice to see a change in the company mind!
Hope the VPFO, also will follow the CEO...
Amazing about B-MAX. That one was suppose to be operate by MAX...
Cash injection will be done after clearing the top management guys!
October will be very interested!
...I should stop more time in Le Cesar...
Se you in the desert on an horse with no name...
I was ready to confirm the ''rumours" that our CEO is on his way out!
Could be nice to see a change in the company mind!
Hope the VPFO, also will follow the CEO...
Amazing about B-MAX. That one was suppose to be operate by MAX...
Cash injection will be done after clearing the top management guys!
October will be very interested!
...I should stop more time in Le Cesar...
Se you in the desert on an horse with no name...
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Drumbeat
DON'T PANIC GUYS.....
LOOKS LIKE THE THIRD REICH FALL...
HEY CHRONIC PIZZERIA.... BE COOL ...
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
oooooooPPPPPPPPPPSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOOKS LIKE THE THIRD REICH FALL...
HEY CHRONIC PIZZERIA.... BE COOL ...
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
oooooooPPPPPPPPPPSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wet lease in Beijing
I was called yesterday by the crew management to bring my passport, in order to get a visa for China.
After getting a few informations regarding the contract I decide to refuse to go there.
-We will recieve 200 Mop perdiem (many nice restaurants around the hotel)
-Hotel: Maybe Lido, if Lido can confirm to get us some rooms, otherwise we'll stay in the Sino-Swiss.(in other terms, we are going to stay in the Sino-Swiss or Air China Hotel.)
-For our DDOs, regarding the schedul of the Air China's flights, it will be very difficult to catch NX001, to travel back to MFM.
-No DHC on Air China flight allowed , if intention to travel via HKG, to MFM with the ferry.
-During the stay in Beijing you will not be entitle for your housing allowance, in MFM.
-My girlfriend can not join me there on NX flight , because China does'nt deliver any visa for tourists.
(But of course many hookers in Beijing)( Thankx ,not for me...I don't intendt to became a father in the next 9 months).
-It's going to be a 3 weeks in Beijing, every 3.5 months, regarding the number of pilots we have now!!!
I totally refuse. No housing allowance, 200 mop per day...I don't eat noodles and a bowl of rice a day, like Mr F.
I would like to know where Dragonair was staying, and how much perdiems they got, for the same contract!
Mr D, keep that wet lease for you, you can wipe your ...ss with the contract.
By the way Ethiad is massively hiring again P1 & P2!
I was called yesterday by the crew management to bring my passport, in order to get a visa for China.
After getting a few informations regarding the contract I decide to refuse to go there.
-We will recieve 200 Mop perdiem (many nice restaurants around the hotel)
-Hotel: Maybe Lido, if Lido can confirm to get us some rooms, otherwise we'll stay in the Sino-Swiss.(in other terms, we are going to stay in the Sino-Swiss or Air China Hotel.)
-For our DDOs, regarding the schedul of the Air China's flights, it will be very difficult to catch NX001, to travel back to MFM.
-No DHC on Air China flight allowed , if intention to travel via HKG, to MFM with the ferry.
-During the stay in Beijing you will not be entitle for your housing allowance, in MFM.
-My girlfriend can not join me there on NX flight , because China does'nt deliver any visa for tourists.
(But of course many hookers in Beijing)( Thankx ,not for me...I don't intendt to became a father in the next 9 months).
-It's going to be a 3 weeks in Beijing, every 3.5 months, regarding the number of pilots we have now!!!
I totally refuse. No housing allowance, 200 mop per day...I don't eat noodles and a bowl of rice a day, like Mr F.
I would like to know where Dragonair was staying, and how much perdiems they got, for the same contract!
Mr D, keep that wet lease for you, you can wipe your ...ss with the contract.
By the way Ethiad is massively hiring again P1 & P2!
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Really?......A new fresh Management team?.... I M wondering who could be...
But they hv been doing such a nice job... how come?
What's gonna happen to those VPFO chronies????
Guess.. I M delighted...
Hey guys it's time to catch the camel ...if u can...catch it
But they hv been doing such a nice job... how come?What's gonna happen to those VPFO chronies????
Guess.. I M delighted...Hey guys it's time to catch the camel ...if u can...catch it
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Let`s get together again !!
Hi guys, why don`t we get together again in a dinner to support our great leaders VPFO and CP in this **** wet lease contract in Beijing?
They hide this miserable surprise from us. They also don`t say a word when they cut 20% allowance for the sim in HKG.
But just because they aren`t doing anything to improve our terms & conditions ( except to promote some friends to captains & instructors) we should keep showing our love and understanding to them.
Let`s dinner again & celebrate with them this **** wet lease conditions in PEK !!!
Hi guys, why don`t we get together again in a dinner to support our great leaders VPFO and CP in this **** wet lease contract in Beijing?
They hide this miserable surprise from us. They also don`t say a word when they cut 20% allowance for the sim in HKG.
But just because they aren`t doing anything to improve our terms & conditions ( except to promote some friends to captains & instructors) we should keep showing our love and understanding to them.
Let`s dinner again & celebrate with them this **** wet lease conditions in PEK !!!
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Hip Hip Hurray
Old Management will soon be out to pasture.
VPFO, CP (and hopefully Mr. intelligent Cpt F) go with them.
Now its the turn of the Filipinos to have a go at managing this pathetic group of pilots.
Cpt. Photocopy will be the new VPFO
Cpt. Talkative will take over as CP
and young Cpt. red will be up for training manager
Definitely time to pack the bags.
Old Management will soon be out to pasture.
VPFO, CP (and hopefully Mr. intelligent Cpt F) go with them.
Now its the turn of the Filipinos to have a go at managing this pathetic group of pilots.
Cpt. Photocopy will be the new VPFO
Cpt. Talkative will take over as CP
and young Cpt. red will be up for training manager
Definitely time to pack the bags.
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sylversurfer - if you sell tickets for peanuts, you get plenty of pax
There is still no money. CA is still in control of our destiny. Wet lease is being rostered but still not yet confirmed (presumably because CA has yet to put any money in).
I hope Hazel250 has the wet lease wrong. Last I heard from crew mgmt it was 2xA321s plus an A300. Assuming 4 crew per acft that would mean doing four weeks per year in PEK. 2x 2 weeks would be okay, if we could choose when to go. But loss of housing allowance (what little we have) would be outrageous. We cant stop renting our appartments for two weeks!
I would advise anyone renewing their contracts to change the wording to "PERMANENTLY based out of Macau" for their housing allowance.
But then again, we could all be out of jobs soon anyway...
There is still no money. CA is still in control of our destiny. Wet lease is being rostered but still not yet confirmed (presumably because CA has yet to put any money in).
I hope Hazel250 has the wet lease wrong. Last I heard from crew mgmt it was 2xA321s plus an A300. Assuming 4 crew per acft that would mean doing four weeks per year in PEK. 2x 2 weeks would be okay, if we could choose when to go. But loss of housing allowance (what little we have) would be outrageous. We cant stop renting our appartments for two weeks!
I would advise anyone renewing their contracts to change the wording to "PERMANENTLY based out of Macau" for their housing allowance.
But then again, we could all be out of jobs soon anyway...
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On today's MDT the news are:
Meanwhile, organisations from both sides of the Taiwan Strait agreed to solve the flight shortage problem after increasing demand from travellers, said State Council Taiwan Affairs Office spokesman, Li Weyi yesterday.
Obviously, this will mean even less passengers for the companies going through Macao.
Chin up, and study hard guys, the days maybe numbered...
Meanwhile, organisations from both sides of the Taiwan Strait agreed to solve the flight shortage problem after increasing demand from travellers, said State Council Taiwan Affairs Office spokesman, Li Weyi yesterday.
Obviously, this will mean even less passengers for the companies going through Macao.
Chin up, and study hard guys, the days maybe numbered...
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Arrow...
I refuse to give them my passport because of all kind of darkpoints....
AACM requires 5 crew per Aircrafts, and not 4...so be prepare for a 3 weeks every 3 months.
I agree...for the moment, it's just a draft, nothing full confirm!
Bigbadass,
I hope you're right about CEO, VPFO, and specially Mr F.!
I hope you are wrong about the PAL team to take over...
I have enought of copy/paste from them! They are going to run it like in a third world country...
Cheers!
I refuse to give them my passport because of all kind of darkpoints....
AACM requires 5 crew per Aircrafts, and not 4...so be prepare for a 3 weeks every 3 months.
I agree...for the moment, it's just a draft, nothing full confirm!
Bigbadass,
I hope you're right about CEO, VPFO, and specially Mr F.!
I hope you are wrong about the PAL team to take over...
I have enought of copy/paste from them! They are going to run it like in a third world country...
Cheers!
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Air Macau - Does it have a future ?
News in the Jornal Tribuna de Macau
Governo muda representante na Air Macau
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More posturing or decisive action by the government ?
Quick Translation for the less gifted:
The Government changed its commission agent next to the Air Macau in the beginning of this month. Maria of Nazaré Saias Portela - head of the legal department of the Public works and Transportation. To substitute her is now Cristina Maria Freitas Gomes Da Silva, from Macau Civil Aviation Authority. Placing within Air Macau an employee of the Aviation Authority body, could be the reaction of the government to the present crisis within Air Macau.
Governo muda representante na Air Macau
O Governo mudou a sua delegada junto da Air Macau no início deste mês. De acordo com um despacho do Chefe do Executivo ontem publicado no Boletim Oficial, Maria de Nazaré Saias Portela – que é chefe do departamento jurídico dos Serviços de Solos, Obras Públicas e Transportes – pediu para ser exonerada do cargo. A substituí-la está agora Maria Cristina Freitas Gomes da Silva, que é vogal suplente do conselho administrativo da Autoridade de Aviação Civil da RAEM. Esta alteração, colocando a representá-lo na Air Macau um elemento ligado ao regulador, pode eventualmente significar uma resposta do Governo à recente crise envolvendo a transportadora aérea de bandeira da RAEM, que registou prejuízos superiores a 200 milhões de patacas no primeiro semestre do ano
More posturing or decisive action by the government ?
Quick Translation for the less gifted:
The Government changed its commission agent next to the Air Macau in the beginning of this month. Maria of Nazaré Saias Portela - head of the legal department of the Public works and Transportation. To substitute her is now Cristina Maria Freitas Gomes Da Silva, from Macau Civil Aviation Authority. Placing within Air Macau an employee of the Aviation Authority body, could be the reaction of the government to the present crisis within Air Macau.
