Royal Brunei - Night of the long knifes
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Another rumour - apparently "they" have decided there are now too few engineers (due perhaps to the fact that there are many acting as flying spanners) and they need to recruit some more ex-pat engineers!
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Meanwhile, I hear that a small, furry, digital data transferring individual is selling a small, bright green Korean Transportation Device for a very reasonable sum? 
"Hyundai - Prepare to want one..."
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I must be the only person in town who can't find the jungle drum. Care to give us all the address?
Be interesting to see what an expat boss will do here. It means the airline has come full circle and will be admitting a loss of face on the local side. This seems a bit unusual but it is what is needed. Not sure if it will be a popular decision as I am sure his first thing to do will be to get rid of half of the clerks that are surplus to requirements. Could efficiency be looming?
Will it be regional airline, or carry on as is, but a bit more efficiently, loosing the unproductive routes. Time will tell.
Be interesting to see what an expat boss will do here. It means the airline has come full circle and will be admitting a loss of face on the local side. This seems a bit unusual but it is what is needed. Not sure if it will be a popular decision as I am sure his first thing to do will be to get rid of half of the clerks that are surplus to requirements. Could efficiency be looming?
Will it be regional airline, or carry on as is, but a bit more efficiently, loosing the unproductive routes. Time will tell.
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I've been told the ED's given his notice and is out of here in 3 months. Was also told that RBA is being sued by ex-pilots in London. We know who's got the cash to do that.
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Not heard that one, but it would not surprise me. I have heard that there is an investigation ongoing regarding the publishing costs of a recently issued RBA Flight Ops manual.
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Not heard that one either Thin. If it does turn out to be correct it shows the inherent lack of understanding of the aviation industry by the local non flying management.
The new COM was issued in line with JAR's when they came into force last year and had to be approved as such. If you have been to the CAA for anything recently you can understand the costs involved especially when you consider the additional costs to do with corporate applications. It was bound to be expensive from the outset.
Does this sound along the lines of the other popular rumour at the moment of local licensing? Why would we need JAA approval and why not have a Brunei license too. Saves money! Next we will be asked to land with no fuel because we keep going places with 6 to 8 tonnes of fuel we don't use. Why do we need that?
The new COM was issued in line with JAR's when they came into force last year and had to be approved as such. If you have been to the CAA for anything recently you can understand the costs involved especially when you consider the additional costs to do with corporate applications. It was bound to be expensive from the outset.
Does this sound along the lines of the other popular rumour at the moment of local licensing? Why would we need JAA approval and why not have a Brunei license too. Saves money! Next we will be asked to land with no fuel because we keep going places with 6 to 8 tonnes of fuel we don't use. Why do we need that?
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See the "more sackings" thread.
Rishworth F/O fired for daring to go sick down route. If true, then RBA really has sunk to the bottom of the pile.
Can anyone reliably confirm this story as I know a lot of people for whom this would be the final straw.
There are also flight safety implications here. People will be frightened into not going sick when they should. This could cause anything from a blown ear drum to a major incident/accident.
Time for a letter to DCA/CAA I think.
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Rishworth F/O fired for daring to go sick down route. If true, then RBA really has sunk to the bottom of the pile.
Can anyone reliably confirm this story as I know a lot of people for whom this would be the final straw.
There are also flight safety implications here. People will be frightened into not going sick when they should. This could cause anything from a blown ear drum to a major incident/accident.
Time for a letter to DCA/CAA I think.
(Edited for spelling)
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Cowpat, just to add some substance to your comments:
I believe that the Rishworth guy has contracted a reasonably serious illness, and the time off required (sick leave) to recover is considerably more than their contract allows.
Not being privy to the details I'm not in a position to comment what happens if you exceed it??
Perhaps one of the current Rishworth pilots could enlighten us on that??
I believe that the Rishworth guy has contracted a reasonably serious illness, and the time off required (sick leave) to recover is considerably more than their contract allows.
Not being privy to the details I'm not in a position to comment what happens if you exceed it??
Perhaps one of the current Rishworth pilots could enlighten us on that??
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I am sure you are correct, but the implication remains ..... go sick and need significant time off and you will be sacked. It may be that the Rishworth contract covers this situation but people will still be reluctant to go sick when they should and that makes it a flight safety issue.
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One reason for that is that several of the pilots who are looking to leave are within 3 months of contract renewal. I believe they have applied for new contracts but that RBA are being very slow in processing them. The method behind the pilots apparent madness is that they are waiting (hoping) for RBA to tell them that their contracts are not being renewed, thus obliging RBA to cough up 3 months salary in lieu of notice.
Now thats the sort of business acumen that RBA ought to try to hold on to.
Now thats the sort of business acumen that RBA ought to try to hold on to.
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I gather that Rishworth contract allows for 10 days sick leave and if any more is required RBA has the option to terminate that contract. This appears to be the reason behind this decision however unpleasant it may be.
With reference to the lack of resignations there is also the fact that annual increments have been stopped with effect of 21st April 2002. There are a number of guys that have not received increments that were due on or around 1st April 2002 and may well be waiting to see if they get those before addressing the resignation issue as if they are not paid there is the question of breaching of contracts.
Going back a few posts to Pipersfathers earlier post. If you mean that Fox and his cub may be suing, I think you may find that they have better things to do with their hard earned than donate it to a lawyer. Try suing this lot and the ranks close and they make up some story that everyone believes and as far as I know if you sign your contract in Brunei you can only sue using the Brunei judicial system. Not easy even on a good day. If it is someone else please elaborate.
With reference to the lack of resignations there is also the fact that annual increments have been stopped with effect of 21st April 2002. There are a number of guys that have not received increments that were due on or around 1st April 2002 and may well be waiting to see if they get those before addressing the resignation issue as if they are not paid there is the question of breaching of contracts.
Going back a few posts to Pipersfathers earlier post. If you mean that Fox and his cub may be suing, I think you may find that they have better things to do with their hard earned than donate it to a lawyer. Try suing this lot and the ranks close and they make up some story that everyone believes and as far as I know if you sign your contract in Brunei you can only sue using the Brunei judicial system. Not easy even on a good day. If it is someone else please elaborate.
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Defeatist as it seems, legal action is potentially protracted and getting a local lawyer to take it on...?
It can and has been done from the UK but it depends in the magnitude of your actual or percieved loss. If terminating, best play the game.
I was speaking with one of the unfortunately redundant pilots last night. After the initial badly handled redundancy notice, he has been given plenty of time to sort things out and it was my impression that he is not at all stressed.
It can and has been done from the UK but it depends in the magnitude of your actual or percieved loss. If terminating, best play the game.
I was speaking with one of the unfortunately redundant pilots last night. After the initial badly handled redundancy notice, he has been given plenty of time to sort things out and it was my impression that he is not at all stressed.
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There are a range of personalities in the guys that were laid off (not including AM). One was nearing retirement and would have dearly loved to have been able to celebrate his last flight after many years in the business, another who has several businesses to fall back on, another that has age on his side and the last who has plenty of experience to fall back on. It is not usual for a pilot to show stress in any situation, as an average sim session will surely indicate, no matter what the circumstances.
Time may heal all wounds, but from my communication with the guys involved there seems to be a feeling of getting out while the going is good. It may not be for very much longer. I think this may have more to do with the lack of visible or perceived stress.
It is sad to see a young, dedicated very pleasant and capable pilot such as AM be shown the door. I wish him well in his recovery and subsequent job search.
As for me, I am just waiting for the outcome of DT's and GCU's contract before making a definitive move. Needless to say applications have been submitted. I am sure I am not the only one.
Time may heal all wounds, but from my communication with the guys involved there seems to be a feeling of getting out while the going is good. It may not be for very much longer. I think this may have more to do with the lack of visible or perceived stress.
It is sad to see a young, dedicated very pleasant and capable pilot such as AM be shown the door. I wish him well in his recovery and subsequent job search.
As for me, I am just waiting for the outcome of DT's and GCU's contract before making a definitive move. Needless to say applications have been submitted. I am sure I am not the only one.
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Most often as a moderator, I find myself stepping in when something is going wrong in a thread. This thread, on the contrary, despite it's underlying potentially divisive subject actually points out all that I feel is good about this board, and why myself and the rest of the folks give up their time to help it run.
Information is being shared, a life-changing event is unfolding, different opinions are being aired, previous adversaries are coming together, and it's all being done without antagonism and rancour (well, there's been a few try to kick it off....). Rumours are being aired, verified or dismissed, exactly the way it should be. As I said early on in the thread, the thoughts of those who run the board are with you all on this (we talked about it in the pub the other week, actually,) we really want to see a succesful outcome.
Well done. Keep it up.... or else I shoot the puppy.
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