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Old 6th May 2002, 14:00
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I hear there was another engineering resignation today??
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Correct.
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Old 8th May 2002, 17:24
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And if he signs the contract he has just been offered, a captain will be resigning or not renewing his contract very shortly.
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Old 9th May 2002, 00:10
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I think you'll learn that the several contracts up for renewal have been renewed. The only change is loss of TA.
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Bus429. I think ThinAlbert has confused you with his rhetoric.

I suggest you re-read his posting s l o w l y.
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I'm an engineer - I only do things slowly!
Had a few hassles today with Hum Rems!!
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Yes, I suppose my last posting was not perfect Queens English.

If he (said captain) signs the contract that my company have just offered him then he will not be renewing his contract with RBA.

I hope that clears things up.
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Old 10th May 2002, 16:21
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What about the F/O who has just eff oed? Called up while on leave to say he wouldn't be back. This does not help the cause of the expat. If you are going to leave, do the right thing (even if you think you have been wronged. You know what they say, two wrongs etc...). Don't leave car loans and bills outstanding.
A debt is a debt. Wrong industry in which to make enemies.
End of sanctimony.
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Does "doing the right thing" include working out your notice period then????

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Big Balls,

I negotiated an early release. Far better to talk it through than bluff it out (IMHO).
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Old 11th May 2002, 03:22
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I think you'll find EM had been planning to go for a long time and had, therefore been tying up lose ends as he was packing up his things to leave. I have heard he enlisted a couple of neighbours to clear up final bills and sales. Add to that the fact that he has still got salary outstanding and I am sure the standard $500 held back for 90 days, I see little problem. Bank loans are another thing, but if you think you can run from a bank loan and get away with it, think again. They may not be able to recover the money but they will make life difficult for you and the banks here already make it difficult enough for an expat to get a loan that it isn't going to get any more difficult. What little I know of the guy invovled, he would be very unlikely to leave any things outstanding here and I wish him luck in his new position.

Leaving the way he has, IMHO, has given some fuel for the argument that with poor treatment, low morale and lack of security, people will make such rash moves with no cares as to what situation it will leave the company. More people need to do it. If I get offered a job with a start date tomorrow, I will be gone too and I don't think I would be the only one either. With the current enviroment here, there is very little loyalty to the company and people will leave in this way given the chance.
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Tree - last night at Kota Batu, several of us were speculating as to who you are. Any hints?
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Tree a slight contradiction in your statements:

"I think you'll find EM had been planning to go for a long time and had, therefore been tying up lose ends as he was packing up his things to leave. I have heard he enlisted a couple of neighbours to clear up final bills and sales"

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"Leaving the way he has, IMHO, has given some fuel for the argument that with poor treatment, low morale and lack of security, people will make such rash moves with no cares as to what situation it will leave the company."

So basically he planned to do a runner a long time ago. I think I am correct in saying that it is not the first time that he has done this. Am I also correct in saying that he notified the Company that he was not returning to work very shortly after pay day?

I would like to contest the fact that these actions will not hurt others, are we talking logic or reality here? Sure, it's great to see someone get one back on the company he feels has let him down, or whatever, but there are other issues here as well.
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Old 11th May 2002, 16:15
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Bus 429-tell me who you think I am and I will tell you if you're right or not.

Up to here- I was not aware that he had done this before. I know that he was getting ready to leave Brunei for a number of months. He was just waiting for a start date at his new company. There are people in the past that have disappeared without serving notice that have hurt the general expat population by leaving behind them big RBYC bills, outstanding loans and credit card bills. These people tried to disappear into obscurity and generally failed. These are the kind of actions that cause problems in a community. The only angle I can see is that maybe it shows a lack of trust in the expat employee, but then let's face it, were we ever trusted by the locals here really in the first place? The pay day issue, I hadn't picked up on but if I were to do the same I would use a similar time frame. I also understand that he was trying to do everything he could to aviod doing this but faced with taking a job that has a future or staying to serve notice in one without the decision can't have been too difficult. If you feel there are other issues then please share them as I would certainly like to read them. Maybe I am biased by rumour, conjecture and general malease to see anything but the negative sides.
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Am I also right in saying that the new job does not start until July?
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Old 13th May 2002, 02:13
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another rba resignation

heard gw has resigned, if true wheres he off to.
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Old 13th May 2002, 06:07
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I assume you dont mean GW the F/O who was sacked, so do you mean the other F/O with the same initials?
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Old 14th May 2002, 00:04
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thin,
yep, thats what i heard.
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Old 14th May 2002, 03:30
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Up To Here. Don't know anything of his start date but I am sure if it were to be July he would have stayed for a while longer.

Has anyone else heard of DD lodging his discontent and resigning?
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Old 14th May 2002, 06:37
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TT,

Possibly he left early because he has just become a father and prefers to spend time with his family rather than RBA before changing jobs.
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