Singaporeair Captain recruitment
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If you as a PR sponsor your male child for PR, then he indeed does become liable to serve National Service (NS), as a second generation PR. The easy way around this is to not sponsor your male child for PR; instead apply for a long-term social visit pass, valid for 1 year, renewable as long as you maintain your PR status.
If you intend to live in Singapore for the very long-term, your son can apply for a PR on his own merits when he lands a job in Singapore. He will then be considered a first generation PR, therefore not liable for NS.
Thank you sir for that information.
Great thread by the way
gb
If you as a PR sponsor your male child for PR, then he indeed does become liable to serve National Service (NS), as a second generation PR. The easy way around this is to not sponsor your male child for PR; instead apply for a long-term social visit pass, valid for 1 year, renewable as long as you maintain your PR status.
If you intend to live in Singapore for the very long-term, your son can apply for a PR on his own merits when he lands a job in Singapore. He will then be considered a first generation PR, therefore not liable for NS.
Thank you sir for that information.
Great thread by the way
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I have not transferred a single cent to Singapore for my bank guarantee. The Singapore branch of my "home" bank has issued a guarantee to SIA to pay the 56 K whenever SIA wants it.
Same here
And:
The duration of the bank guarantee is 5 years and 5 months from
the signing of the employment contract.
(As your 5 years contract will start from the date of your "Check-out"
on the line. SIA counts 5 months for the conversion training)
gb
I have not transferred a single cent to Singapore for my bank guarantee. The Singapore branch of my "home" bank has issued a guarantee to SIA to pay the 56 K whenever SIA wants it.
Same here
And:
The duration of the bank guarantee is 5 years and 5 months from
the signing of the employment contract.
(As your 5 years contract will start from the date of your "Check-out"
on the line. SIA counts 5 months for the conversion training)
gb
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Painless if you know what you are in for.
Being forewarned of some of the quirks my help ease your entry into SQ.
Here are a few,
Days Off - you get 2 per week however they only appear on your roster after trips of 5 days or more, otherwise they are blank. If you have 3 blank days you could be assigned to fly on any one of them, if this is a long trip your roster will be out the window. At the moment if you have more than 3 days you’ll be assigned standby.
Crewing is one of the reasons you have to ask for permission to leave Singapore on your days off.
A roster day off is from midnight to midnight, i.e. you often start a duty just after midnight following a day off.
Roster - The “bidding” system allows 12 points per year, 1 point per month. A minimum of 3 points for a Trip. 1 point for a day off max 2 in a row.
3P flights - SQ operate some longer flights with 3 Pilots, 1 Captain and 2 FO’s. Problem for the Captain is that the FO’s are not certified to provide in-flight relief for the Commander.
Paxing - EY upgradable to J and 1st. J Class is mostly full (airline is doing well) and 1st is not available on all flights. At the moment we have whole crews paxing all over, saving Hotac and crew days. Paxing will not always be on the direct flight, paxing through another station improves their standby coverage. LAX TPE SIN is a great flight in EY. This area is a mystery to all.
Here are a few,
Days Off - you get 2 per week however they only appear on your roster after trips of 5 days or more, otherwise they are blank. If you have 3 blank days you could be assigned to fly on any one of them, if this is a long trip your roster will be out the window. At the moment if you have more than 3 days you’ll be assigned standby.
Crewing is one of the reasons you have to ask for permission to leave Singapore on your days off.
A roster day off is from midnight to midnight, i.e. you often start a duty just after midnight following a day off.
Roster - The “bidding” system allows 12 points per year, 1 point per month. A minimum of 3 points for a Trip. 1 point for a day off max 2 in a row.
3P flights - SQ operate some longer flights with 3 Pilots, 1 Captain and 2 FO’s. Problem for the Captain is that the FO’s are not certified to provide in-flight relief for the Commander.
Paxing - EY upgradable to J and 1st. J Class is mostly full (airline is doing well) and 1st is not available on all flights. At the moment we have whole crews paxing all over, saving Hotac and crew days. Paxing will not always be on the direct flight, paxing through another station improves their standby coverage. LAX TPE SIN is a great flight in EY. This area is a mystery to all.
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expat400 is correct in that you do not have to bring the bank guarantee cash with you to Singapore provided your home bank has a branch in Singapore and is prepared to complete the documentation to SQ's satisfaction. Make sure you get a copy of the paperwork so it is all set in motion before you arrive in Singapore as you have 20 days to produce the paperwork or you are taken off the ground school course.
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bank and documents
Can you please name some of the banks that have branches in Singapore and do this guarantee services? And which documents should you bring when you arrive in Singapore?
Ref the 3 strikes - anyone heard that the Lahore chap - the fellow that got to 300 feet agl 6 miles out, had 30 seconds of GPWS before going round, that the company is keeping him in his position with a few more training sectors to help him improve his SA!!!??
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Bond & Salary
Thx again guys for all replies.So I have to basically convince my home bank to provide me with a guarantee letter from its singapore branch to the tune of 56kSD. And this should not be too difficult if I have the requisite funds in my home bank account.Frozen or otherwise.
Phil,dont you think it would be reasonable for a bank to provide a guarantee for your ones own funds.Moreso if the funds are locked in a joint account,ie myself and SIA. I guess,time( and SIA ) will tell.Sounds quite fair to me.....but again whats fair to me.....
Also guys,when exactly do you start getting paid the Captains salary.Is it as soon as you join up or only when you are released on line as captain.
Appreciate your input......
Phil,dont you think it would be reasonable for a bank to provide a guarantee for your ones own funds.Moreso if the funds are locked in a joint account,ie myself and SIA. I guess,time( and SIA ) will tell.Sounds quite fair to me.....but again whats fair to me.....
Also guys,when exactly do you start getting paid the Captains salary.Is it as soon as you join up or only when you are released on line as captain.
Appreciate your input......
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Reduced basic salary (and no flying allowances of course) while in ground-school and simulator. Makes the first 2 or 3 months quite interesting as expenses are probably at their highest - 3 months deposit on the house rental, up front school fees for the kids etc.
Took us about a year to start saving any money.
Took us about a year to start saving any money.
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Well, they took me! Its thorough but not ridiculous. If you can pass a CAA or FAA Class 1 you will have no problems.
The Docs seem to have a sense of humour too. I recently did my tri annual medical board and the Doc was commenting on my rather 'portly' physique and increasing weight.
Doc: "Captain Bananas, Your weight has steadily increased over the last few years. Tell me, what do you do when you feel like taking some exercise?'
Bananas: 'Well, I usually lie down until the feeling goes away!'
Doc saw the funny side and I was 'in and out' of his office in about 2 minutes.
The Docs seem to have a sense of humour too. I recently did my tri annual medical board and the Doc was commenting on my rather 'portly' physique and increasing weight.
Doc: "Captain Bananas, Your weight has steadily increased over the last few years. Tell me, what do you do when you feel like taking some exercise?'
Bananas: 'Well, I usually lie down until the feeling goes away!'
Doc saw the funny side and I was 'in and out' of his office in about 2 minutes.
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hahaha
HSBC and Standard Chartered have branches throughout the world
LloydsTSB have a single office in Millenia Tower, Temasek Ave where you can get mortgages etc
DBS have a branch in London where you could no doubt deposit £Stg or whatever to cover the Bank Guarantee part of the Bond.
PS I can confirm that if Bananas can pass the medical then anyone can!!!
HSBC and Standard Chartered have branches throughout the world
LloydsTSB have a single office in Millenia Tower, Temasek Ave where you can get mortgages etc
DBS have a branch in London where you could no doubt deposit £Stg or whatever to cover the Bank Guarantee part of the Bond.
PS I can confirm that if Bananas can pass the medical then anyone can!!!
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Ditto! (same for me...and the missus will confirm my heavier than air status!) Seriously, there are no sneaky medicals here,and even though it's thorough, it's not anywhere near the JCAB astronaut medical...good luck!
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The Bank Guarantee....
Just found something out from my bank. Apparantely it does'nt have a branch in Singapore....
..!! So i've contacted another bank (of which i,m not a customer yet),and which DOES have a branch in Singapore. Now i'm supposed to deposit 56Ksd (in MY local currency of course),in this bank in a fixed deposit for the required term (ie 5years 5 months). Only then will their branch in Singapore release a guarantee letter to SIA,in the required SIA format ( which is still a mystery to me ).
I'm guessing this procedure is correct. Of course.....to begin with,i've got to be selected first....!!! ....!! Got a strange feeling that all this "information quest" is prolly gonna be all for nothing.....lol. But better to be prepared than be caught with ur pants down,I always say.
Oh,BTW this bank which is willing to issue me a guarantee for the required amount and period is also charging me a "small" fee. Manager said it was 3% per annum of amount guaranteed for. For the entire period. I managed to get it down to 2%. Did'nt know these things were negotiable...!! Might pick up some spare change at the end of the 5 year period by way of interest on monies deposited,through all of this though.
Still wondering though,what were these papers that one was supposed to take with oneself..?? Are these bank papers required for the interview..??!! I certainly should hope not! Will take a little more time....
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OF COURSE......SIA HAS TO AGREE TO ALL THIS.....!! ( Right....???!!? )
..!! So i've contacted another bank (of which i,m not a customer yet),and which DOES have a branch in Singapore. Now i'm supposed to deposit 56Ksd (in MY local currency of course),in this bank in a fixed deposit for the required term (ie 5years 5 months). Only then will their branch in Singapore release a guarantee letter to SIA,in the required SIA format ( which is still a mystery to me ).I'm guessing this procedure is correct. Of course.....to begin with,i've got to be selected first....!!!
....!! Got a strange feeling that all this "information quest" is prolly gonna be all for nothing.....lol. But better to be prepared than be caught with ur pants down,I always say.Oh,BTW this bank which is willing to issue me a guarantee for the required amount and period is also charging me a "small" fee. Manager said it was 3% per annum of amount guaranteed for. For the entire period. I managed to get it down to 2%. Did'nt know these things were negotiable...!! Might pick up some spare change at the end of the 5 year period by way of interest on monies deposited,through all of this though.
Still wondering though,what were these papers that one was supposed to take with oneself..?? Are these bank papers required for the interview..??!! I certainly should hope not! Will take a little more time....
.OF COURSE......SIA HAS TO AGREE TO ALL THIS.....!! ( Right....???!!? )
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Yes, it is the correct procedure. SIA will provide you with a sample so the bank can issue the correct guarantee letter. 2 % is a little on the high side but since you're a new customer to the bank I guess you have to pay a bit extra.
They are not required for the interview. I know of guys that didn't provide them until halfway through their line training but that's not a good way to start your relation with an employer.
Good luck!
They are not required for the interview. I know of guys that didn't provide them until halfway through their line training but that's not a good way to start your relation with an employer.
Good luck!
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Maybe I missed the answer to this in the numerous threads on SIA but
wouldn't it make more sense to buy the type?
Would it not free up your life a little knowing you can leave when or if you want not having that commitment albatross around you neck? Wouldn't it be worth the investment?
If you already have the type but no time on it, do you still have to sign your life away?
Maybe some of the SIA veterans can help me with this one.
I was just in Singapore last week via Singapore Airlines and both the airline and the city is wonderful.
RDG
wouldn't it make more sense to buy the type?
Would it not free up your life a little knowing you can leave when or if you want not having that commitment albatross around you neck? Wouldn't it be worth the investment?
If you already have the type but no time on it, do you still have to sign your life away?
Maybe some of the SIA veterans can help me with this one.
I was just in Singapore last week via Singapore Airlines and both the airline and the city is wonderful.
RDG
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Not sure if SIA would accept no bonding if you have the type but no time. Certainly no chance of a DEC.
We have some Captains (SIA Cargo) who were fairly high time 747-300 but they still had to accept the same bonding arrangements as the rest of us who had no previous 747 experience at all - and go through the full conversion.
That said, the market is slowly starting to favour the pilots, especially with the recent below inflation pay rise so it might be worth a go.
Bear in mind though, that after 5 years you are bond-free whereas if you pay for your rating elsewhere it is money spent that you will never see again.
I have to agree with your opinion (from a passenger point of view) of the Airline. The country also has much to attract an expatriate. Unfortunately, the high cost of housing and education, and the company's unwillingness to award inflation matching increases to either allowance is starting to affect operations.
The SIA Cargo rosters already have remarks on them referring to 'crew shortages.'
We have some Captains (SIA Cargo) who were fairly high time 747-300 but they still had to accept the same bonding arrangements as the rest of us who had no previous 747 experience at all - and go through the full conversion.
That said, the market is slowly starting to favour the pilots, especially with the recent below inflation pay rise so it might be worth a go.
Bear in mind though, that after 5 years you are bond-free whereas if you pay for your rating elsewhere it is money spent that you will never see again.
I have to agree with your opinion (from a passenger point of view) of the Airline. The country also has much to attract an expatriate. Unfortunately, the high cost of housing and education, and the company's unwillingness to award inflation matching increases to either allowance is starting to affect operations.
The SIA Cargo rosters already have remarks on them referring to 'crew shortages.'
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waiting time
Morning Gents,can anyone tell me what time period from SQ cargo getting an application form to calling you for an interview(if one was lucky)
Any ifo appreciated,
Goma
Any ifo appreciated,
Goma
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If you meet all the criteria, no time at all.