Singaporeair Captain recruitment
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Dd, how long is a piece of string. we here in SIA dont and never will, dont belieive anyone. Good luck , Just jump through the hoops as they come at you.
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Kk,cdrw....
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You did say that the kids' schooling alowances are subject to presentation of valid reciepts. Am I to understand that if my kids are studying during my training period ( or for that matter during ANY period ) in say my country of origin,but I am able to get the paid reciepts to SIA for their schools ( which are in my home country). Would I still be paid my kids' schooling allowances?? Or are my allowances valid ONLY if kids are schooling in Singapore? Also CDRW,what did u mean by "schooling in a Singapore school". Is this with reference to "local" schools and International schools?? Or did u mean school in Singapore....?? Much appreciate all ur replies fellas.
Thx kk,thx CDRW in advance.
BD
You did say that the kids' schooling alowances are subject to presentation of valid reciepts. Am I to understand that if my kids are studying during my training period ( or for that matter during ANY period ) in say my country of origin,but I am able to get the paid reciepts to SIA for their schools ( which are in my home country). Would I still be paid my kids' schooling allowances?? Or are my allowances valid ONLY if kids are schooling in Singapore? Also CDRW,what did u mean by "schooling in a Singapore school". Is this with reference to "local" schools and International schools?? Or did u mean school in Singapore....?? Much appreciate all ur replies fellas.
Thx kk,thx CDRW in advance.
BD
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simple - no receipts, no allowance - they need to see the official paperwork then calculate your allowance - you don't expect them to take your word for it now do you..... It's not as simple as I was led to believe. You do not get a flat allowance, it's done thru some magic Singapore Airline formula - like alot of other things. As for kids in another country going to school there while you are employed by SIA, there might be accreditation problems so there's another can of worms for you to play with. Don't overthink this stuff - if you get the interview and then a subsquent offer, it's all spelled out in the contract. Clear as mud
On CNN this morning there was a report on expats in the financial business having to leave Singapore due to rental increases and school fees. If it's hitting these guys you can bet that it's affecting SIA pilots much harder.
...!! And could u possibly post a link if available. Cheers...
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Most people need a home and education for their kids.
I think this mindset of accepting that a crap Housing Allowance in SIN is acceptable because housing is expensive in HKG is wrong.
What is Housing Allowance if not an allowance to cover the cost of housing? Same with education allowance.
I think this mindset of accepting that a crap Housing Allowance in SIN is acceptable because housing is expensive in HKG is wrong.
What is Housing Allowance if not an allowance to cover the cost of housing? Same with education allowance.
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LC,
You just mentioned 'same in Hkg,shanghai,Dubai.....so they leave for greener pastures'. Wondering,what greener pastures would those be ( since u've pretty much covered the greenest of them ).....!! Just FMI pls. No sarcasm here.
You just mentioned 'same in Hkg,shanghai,Dubai.....so they leave for greener pastures'. Wondering,what greener pastures would those be ( since u've pretty much covered the greenest of them ).....!! Just FMI pls. No sarcasm here.
Just heard that a mates' mate from the sand pit has just canceled his interview with SIA which was scheduled for this coming week. The numbers just did not add up when he took into just how much outlay there was in setting himself up in Singapore. And to me he was the perfect candidate - kids off his hands, looking for something different.
B787 with regards to schooling in Sin, some of the cargo guys will only get a schooling allowance if their sprogs are being educated in a Singapore school - now that is any school I believe - local to international. If you want a real shock contact one of the reputable international school and see how much it would take to set up 2 or 3 kids into the school!! Have the GandT nearby!
I suppose everyone's idea of greener pastures is what they make of it.!!
B787 with regards to schooling in Sin, some of the cargo guys will only get a schooling allowance if their sprogs are being educated in a Singapore school - now that is any school I believe - local to international. If you want a real shock contact one of the reputable international school and see how much it would take to set up 2 or 3 kids into the school!! Have the GandT nearby!
I suppose everyone's idea of greener pastures is what they make of it.!!
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CDWR pretty much puts the hammer right on the nail..."Greener pastures" simply refers to those expats (not just pilots) who will choose to move from any city to another simply for the dollar. It has nothing to do with lifestyle. Or stability for that matter. Or even how good a company is. If I might give a bit of advice, if you are invited to an interview, come and see! You have asked tons of questions and have been given straight answers...there's nothing left but to make up your own mind. SIA is a major player in the market and will blow right by you and leave you behind if you let em! So as the song writer said...
"What's it gonna be boy? Yes or No?"
Good luck...
LC
"What's it gonna be boy? Yes or No?"
Good luck...
LC
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CDRW,
Thanks for the lowdown on the frontline situation.Appreciate all your replies.
LC,
You've been extremely honest and informative in your replies.Thx for the short and curlies on how things will prolly turn out. I'm sure you'll understand how important it is for a pilot to ask relevant q's when one's making a lifechanging decision.Especially one which involves a complete lifestyle AND a company change. Not to mention a change of country! And not just for yourself,but for your family too...!! I probably can't underrate the importance here of asking relevant q's and getting informative and genuine responses and replies.Such as what you have always posted. And helped the pilots in this forum with.
Having said that,keep smiling but please do keep those posts coming.......
Cheers all.
BD
Thanks for the lowdown on the frontline situation.Appreciate all your replies.
LC,
You've been extremely honest and informative in your replies.Thx for the short and curlies on how things will prolly turn out. I'm sure you'll understand how important it is for a pilot to ask relevant q's when one's making a lifechanging decision.Especially one which involves a complete lifestyle AND a company change. Not to mention a change of country! And not just for yourself,but for your family too...!! I probably can't underrate the importance here of asking relevant q's and getting informative and genuine responses and replies.Such as what you have always posted. And helped the pilots in this forum with.
Having said that,keep smiling but please do keep those posts coming.......
Cheers all.
BD
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Setting Up
Yep you guys are right have done all my research and the initial set up looks horrendous!!
Seems International schools want Major deposits down on your kids schooling,then add to this the registration fee and the first terms deposit!!
After that find yourself a place to live and yes--more deposits!!
Worked out in my particular case will cost not far off 20k just to move there and get the basic things in place.
Going for an interview soon to get the low down as better to see,hear,cx,from the horses mouth.
Im keen but not at all costs
Great help from you guys out there as you can probably remember its tough to get the low down ,big help from guys like Bananas,Ark pilot to name a few.
Will advise of progress,keep it coming GOMA
Seems International schools want Major deposits down on your kids schooling,then add to this the registration fee and the first terms deposit!!
After that find yourself a place to live and yes--more deposits!!
Worked out in my particular case will cost not far off 20k just to move there and get the basic things in place.
Going for an interview soon to get the low down as better to see,hear,cx,from the horses mouth.
Im keen but not at all costs
Great help from you guys out there as you can probably remember its tough to get the low down ,big help from guys like Bananas,Ark pilot to name a few.
Will advise of progress,keep it coming GOMA
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Hi Goma, I think you might want to make it clear that the 20K you refer to is GB Pounds? And that is without the bank guarantee towards the bond.
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settling in!!
As Bananas points out its"STERLING" and then the bond money on top.
I much prefer SIN life for family and schooling etc etc but for sure you are a loser to begin with on the initial outlay compared to EK.
However sandpit doesnt do it for me so still proceeding with VERY open mind
I much prefer SIN life for family and schooling etc etc but for sure you are a loser to begin with on the initial outlay compared to EK.
However sandpit doesnt do it for me so still proceeding with VERY open mind
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monthly or yearly expenditure
i think we can add
for hiring Maid"s outgoings at yearly bases
ticket price depanding upon Maids home country+annual leave+health insurance +agent fees and salary for the Maid .
finance planning becomes near to realistic.
for hiring Maid"s outgoings at yearly bases
ticket price depanding upon Maids home country+annual leave+health insurance +agent fees and salary for the Maid .
finance planning becomes near to realistic.
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Yeah, but you might call having a maid a choice...not a requirement...and in our house; guess who would be the first to go if the $$$ was getting tight? (At least after I was considered 
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There is a world of " world of difference between the two, in many, many respects."
LOCBLUE's earlier comment regarding SIA and SIA Cargo.
I would agree in terms of actual working conditions as they operate under an ALPA agreement in addtion to the CAAS rules and Cargo just under CAAS AOC FTL which are less limiting. PAX ops different in terms of schedule integrity. Not to mention constant delays, cancellations on cargo flights which means contstant changes to your schedule.
But there is NO difference between the two in cost of housing, schooling. There is NO difference in the way you are treated by the company. Questions that they do not want to answer: ignored. Or if pressed, then lied to. Checking, not training. And of course the BOND. No difference there. I have posted my opinion about the BOND issue earlier. Think long and hard about signing a bond agreement. Lot's can change in the course of a few years and if not to your or your pocketbook's liking, you have to buy your freedom.
PQ
I would agree in terms of actual working conditions as they operate under an ALPA agreement in addtion to the CAAS rules and Cargo just under CAAS AOC FTL which are less limiting. PAX ops different in terms of schedule integrity. Not to mention constant delays, cancellations on cargo flights which means contstant changes to your schedule.
But there is NO difference between the two in cost of housing, schooling. There is NO difference in the way you are treated by the company. Questions that they do not want to answer: ignored. Or if pressed, then lied to. Checking, not training. And of course the BOND. No difference there. I have posted my opinion about the BOND issue earlier. Think long and hard about signing a bond agreement. Lot's can change in the course of a few years and if not to your or your pocketbook's liking, you have to buy your freedom.
PQ
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Yes, you have to buy your freedom, remembering, of course, that you willingly sold it in exchange for a very useful aircraft type endorsement that your last company wouldn't/couldn't give you!
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Yes, no one held a gun to my head, but I made the decision to come and enter into a bond arrangement based on facts the company advertised and verbally reinforced at my interview that turned out to be false. I took the company at its word and made positve assumptions regarding professional practice (training, communication, respect for crew etc...) and adjustments to compensation that would realisticly help offset skyrocketing housing costs. I was wrong.
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