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Old 16th May 2008, 03:56
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Interview Invite

Received interview invite for 777 DEC.
It said FOC ECONOMY airfare to Singapore but I have to pay for accommodation/medical/surcharges /taxes etc which is likely to be more than SGD1000.
Are they having a laugh????
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Old 16th May 2008, 05:32
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No they are not having a laugh. That has always been the way SIA play it for interviews and do not expect to get upgraded even if First or Business is empty.You need to be sure you want the job otherwise you are wasting your money.

Look at it another way you have a free ticket which for SIA is being uncommonly generous!! I would say S$1000 a little on the low side now with hotel costs.If you have not been to Singapore before I suggest you stay a few days longer to see what accommodation is like at the price you are prepared to pay.etc etc

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Old 16th May 2008, 11:37
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A330 Interview

Can anybody tell me what type one can expect to do their simulator evaluation on if one is being interviewed for A330? Does SIA still have their own 340 Sim?

PM me if you prefer.

appreciate the help,

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Old 16th May 2008, 17:37
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SIA

Milles,

This SIA approach for interviewing 777 DECs is ridiculous. Who they think they are? The best job in earth?
Interesting to note that there are 10 ( I said ten) different operators currently recruiting B777 DECs...
You said well, not worth going unless you are a big SIA fan.
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Old 17th May 2008, 01:48
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screening costs breakdown is as follows.
medical s$430
hotel s$600
ticket taxes and surcharges s$400
food and transport s$100 a day, =s$300,
beer is expensive
you do the math
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Old 17th May 2008, 02:04
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Why the indignation with interview costs and traveling in economy to the interview? You are willing to bring S$56,000 to Singapore upon joining for the bond, S$thousands!!! to move into an apartment and you know that when the company requires you to position on duty, it will be in economy. This is just a warm-up and a clue to what lies ahead.

Regards what type you do your interview sim check in? I did mine on the type I now fly, but I have heard that it can be done on anything. Just don't crash or push the wrong rudder on the V1 cut and you'll be fine. Remember, as long as you have the hours, the license AND THE MONEY, they will be happy with you.

I SAY AGAIN: "DON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE I DID AND SIGN A BOND AGREEMENT".
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Old 17th May 2008, 02:08
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Flyingtheline

Although your post is correct it's in the wrong thread. It's only us Cargo pilots doing these trips.

SIA mainline 777 is still a good job, lot's of hours, 14 days off and no positioning.

Cargo has had a couple of good years but the differences is starting to grow which is reflected in the rate of pilots leaving for browner pastures. (No, they never would allow us to apply for the mainline job).

Fullforward

They are the best, aren't they
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Old 17th May 2008, 09:16
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Sorry FTL, wasn't updated on that one.
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Old 17th May 2008, 10:14
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A330 work patterns?

Can anyone tell us what rotation patterns the A330 fleet flies? As in do they do serious long-haul, or are they the more local flyers?

Cheers

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Old 17th May 2008, 11:05
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Hey Fullforward.
Just out of interest who are the 10 operators looking for 777 Captains.
This is what I came up with.(11) ( please feel free to add more)

SQ
EK
V Australia
Vietnam
Jet
Air India
Qatar
Angola
Korean
Aseana
Lufthansa Cargo
( watch this space for the land of the rising sun with a pending requirement)

......and off course just wait ( be it a long one) for the 787 to come on line. Inspite of a seat like a John Deere tractor I think this is a promising rating !

Any more ?? just checking if I have my finger on the pulse.
Apolgees gents if its a thread divergence. I still fancy SE Asia La !
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Old 17th May 2008, 11:44
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I have travelled in "charabangs" ie coaches which are far more comfortable than "economy" or "coach" (to those from the US). I think they should be renamed "steerage" which would reflect a more truer picture

There has alway been a certain amount of positioning in mainline on longhaul flights where different numbers of crew are required due to sector times varying out compared to back so cheaper to position flight deck rather than pay them 100% of allowances whilst operating both ways when not required to do so legally.
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Old 17th May 2008, 13:50
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Surely Captains don't position/deadhead in economy do they???
Staff travel? Is that business/1st for Captains on SQ services?
Thanks
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Old 17th May 2008, 14:37
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You were not paying attention vb.!! I said before they (SIA) are not having a laugh. Captains do indeed position in Economy if no seats available in First or Business which is often the case.Great if all the way to the West Coast from SIN via SEL.HKG,TPE. You arrive feeling great.You usually have 48 hrs off to recover before operating back as the main Captain so you get to chose the bunk time.

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Old 17th May 2008, 17:13
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Fourgolds

You're right, mate!
There's 11 operators chasing 777 drivers. I put 10 cause I don't regard KAL as doing a serious business on that (see appropriate thread some place around).
I had a good laugh on your comments over cockpit seat confort. I guess J.Deere's is more confy!
This is certainlly THE RATING.
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Old 17th May 2008, 18:05
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Angel Singapore Cargo And Singapore Airlines

I don't want to be a spoil-sport but please could we let this thread remain an SIA thread and not an SIA CARGO thread!

I know there may be real "issues" with SIA CARGO but the conditions of employment for SIA CARGO are very different from SIA, even though they belong to the SIA GROUP, likewise SILKAIR.

So please, kind Sir's from SIA Cargo, don"t hijack and "Misinform" the people who are looking for some information about SIA!

Please let the Expat SIA 777 drivers inform us!
Thank You
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Old 17th May 2008, 18:26
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just to clarify the positioning thing, basically you get the best of what's available on the flight. if no first class then it's business, if no business then coach. that's how it goes. the loads are pretty good so on many flights we're relegated to coach.
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Old 18th May 2008, 02:07
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just to clarify the positioning thing, basically you get the best of what's available on the flight. if no first class then it's business, if no business then coach. that's how it goes. the loads are pretty good so on many flights we're relegated to coach.
... funny, a typical management point of view. Actually crew members have positive space on economy (on assigned seats, except when passengers want those ones and consequently pilots are moved and seated anywhere inclusive on those between two passengers .... yes: no aisle or window). Upgrade only if there are/is seat(s) available on Raffles or First. However after changing First Class terminology on A380, now they are limited to C class when travelling on the big bus. Who knows if in the future they decide to give a new name to Raffles ... well, coach remains coach, even with a different designation.
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Old 18th May 2008, 08:39
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MENTOR MINISTER

You are correct about SIA mainline vs Cargo when it comes to rosters, scheduling, ALPA-S CA, monthly hours flown etc...

However I feel it is only fair to warn wannabees that there is NO DIFFERENCE in regards to the training bond arrangements should they not have the type/PIC hours, training facilites, positioning policy, medical care facilites, Singapore cost of living and most important; SIA's corporate culture and its impact on its pilots.

You guys have a better deal when it comes to your work rules, but the commonalities far exceed differences.

PQ
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Old 18th May 2008, 11:45
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PQ,
please confirm a bond required for type rated and experienced guys? Surely the bond is for type rating??
tks
(p.s. it aint looking good so far!)
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PQ,
please confirm a bond required for type rated and experienced guys? Surely the bond is for type rating??
tks
(p.s. it aint looking good so far!)


If you current and qualified, and your qualification is good through the end of training then there should be no bond. There needs to be acutual aircraft time, not just a base check and IR check.

However, if the CAAS says everything is ok with them, that doesn't mean SQ will agree with them. Read and re-read the contract and the bonding section with the utmost care. It is not something to take lightly!!!
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