Vietnam Airlines (info please)
This is a handy site for apartments or houses in SGN. There's probably one for HAN as well but unsure of any link. I've not delt with the mob below but it offers prices and pictures which gives you some idea of what to expect.
http://www.chaocom.com/
http://www.chaocom.com/
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A330 contract roster pattern 4/4
Risworth is advertising in Flight for A330 FO positions offering different roster patterns.
Has anyone experience with the 4/4 roster pattern? Or 6/2 and 5/3 for that matter....How well does it actually work?
Thanks in advance
Snorki
Has anyone experience with the 4/4 roster pattern? Or 6/2 and 5/3 for that matter....How well does it actually work?
Thanks in advance
Snorki
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Can anyone please tell me if the traveling allowance is included in the salary? 
If its not, how much does it average? What about hotels at layovers? Room for each? Perdiem? Thanks.
If its not, how much does it average? What about hotels at layovers? Room for each? Perdiem? Thanks.
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There is no travel allowance. You get a VNA ticket in your mail slot.
Hotels are generally very nice (4 star, 5 star) individual rooms
No perdiems on layovers. Each contract or contractor is different, but part of your salary is called perdiems, and that covers every day of your contract.
EXAMPLE from 2 old contracts of mine:
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Hotels are generally very nice (4 star, 5 star) individual rooms
No perdiems on layovers. Each contract or contractor is different, but part of your salary is called perdiems, and that covers every day of your contract.
EXAMPLE from 2 old contracts of mine:
Euro Pacific Remuneration:
Salary: US$4,500 per month
Per Diem: US$750 per month
Accommodation Allowance: US$750 per month
Total Package: US$6,000 per month
pro-rata, Vietnam tax free
Please note: The above package includes basic salary, per diems.
Salary: US$4,500 per month
Per Diem: US$750 per month
Accommodation Allowance: US$750 per month
Total Package: US$6,000 per month
pro-rata, Vietnam tax free
Please note: The above package includes basic salary, per diems.
Parc
6 SALARY & PER DIEM USD 5,000 per month pro rata
7 ROSTER PATTERN Vietnam Airlines operate a roster pattern of six weeks on duty followed by two weeks off duty with a return economy ticket provided on Vietnam Airlines network (upgrade to business class on a space available basis)
8 ACCOMMODATION Parc shall provide an Accommodation Allowance of USD 1,000 per month to each First Officer to arrange accommodation at base accommodation at layover stations other than base.Vietnam Airlines shall provide hotel accommodation at layover stations other than base.
6 SALARY & PER DIEM USD 5,000 per month pro rata
7 ROSTER PATTERN Vietnam Airlines operate a roster pattern of six weeks on duty followed by two weeks off duty with a return economy ticket provided on Vietnam Airlines network (upgrade to business class on a space available basis)
8 ACCOMMODATION Parc shall provide an Accommodation Allowance of USD 1,000 per month to each First Officer to arrange accommodation at base accommodation at layover stations other than base.Vietnam Airlines shall provide hotel accommodation at layover stations other than base.
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air ticket with vietnam airlines
i applied for this company one month ago
for the screening already you have to pay your hotel, your pick up, if you success the two first weeks they pay you only 50 $ by day during your ground course, while in hanoi , you have to pay your apartment and to manage your pick up, indian contracts are better for that
But the more funny with this company is when i went to airport to take my flight to go to bangkok via hanoi on vietnam airlines,they send to me "free" ticket, in fact while i was in boarding room they called me to request from me to pay 323€ for my ticket despite i explained that i was going for an interview , then 646€ for two ways, plus accommodation and fees around 300€,
1000€ the screening,
for the screening already you have to pay your hotel, your pick up, if you success the two first weeks they pay you only 50 $ by day during your ground course, while in hanoi , you have to pay your apartment and to manage your pick up, indian contracts are better for that
But the more funny with this company is when i went to airport to take my flight to go to bangkok via hanoi on vietnam airlines,they send to me "free" ticket, in fact while i was in boarding room they called me to request from me to pay 323€ for my ticket despite i explained that i was going for an interview , then 646€ for two ways, plus accommodation and fees around 300€,
1000€ the screening,
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they have everything wirtten
its no surprise to one that reads that 1st
or if you ask a lot anyone
i knew it before to my sim ride
i knew that i had to pay the hotel
and i got it back in less than 24 hours
for the free ticket man
i think someone screw you up BIG time
no one pays nothing on the network of the airline
if you have to move yourself to a VNA departing station
they only pay you back 50% up to 1000 bucks
and to be honest with you
i was 4 years in india
this is a trillion times better place to work than "%$? india
if i were you i would ask the agency that sent you to the screening the real numbers
its no surprise to one that reads that 1st
or if you ask a lot anyone
i knew it before to my sim ride
i knew that i had to pay the hotel
and i got it back in less than 24 hours
for the free ticket man
i think someone screw you up BIG time
no one pays nothing on the network of the airline
if you have to move yourself to a VNA departing station
they only pay you back 50% up to 1000 bucks
and to be honest with you
i was 4 years in india
this is a trillion times better place to work than "%$? india
if i were you i would ask the agency that sent you to the screening the real numbers
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I'm an A320 FO at Qatar Airways open ended contract.
I am curious about the 4/4 scheme just so i can sort of live back home in southamerica.
I appreciate any input or word of advice..
cheers..
I am curious about the 4/4 scheme just so i can sort of live back home in southamerica.
I appreciate any input or word of advice..
cheers..
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Here are the numbers for A320 F/O:
Option A:
6 weeks ON duty, 2 weeks OFF duty
$8,000 per month
Option B:
5 weeks ON duty, 3 weeks OFF duty
$6,667 per month
Option C:
4 weeks ON duty, 4 weeks OFF duty
$5,333 per month
Option A:
6 weeks ON duty, 2 weeks OFF duty
$8,000 per month
Option B:
5 weeks ON duty, 3 weeks OFF duty
$6,667 per month
Option C:
4 weeks ON duty, 4 weeks OFF duty
$5,333 per month
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Yes they (PARC and Rishworth) are still offering different rostered time off. BUT. At the moment there is a line a mile long of pilots trying to get it and they (including guys who have been there for years) have been told that at the moment that it is not available due to administative constraints. When you think about it they are short on numbers and then they offer this to try to attract people, everyone comes, and then the new guys and the guys already there want to spend less time there. Its not going to work.
By the way "Lost" in your post regarding your past contract. You actually do pay tax but all tax obligations are borne in full by Vietnam Airlines. Please be careful when saying that the place is tax free. Its not.
Good luck guys who want to go. Its a great place but it has it's limitations..cya
By the way "Lost" in your post regarding your past contract. You actually do pay tax but all tax obligations are borne in full by Vietnam Airlines. Please be careful when saying that the place is tax free. Its not.
Good luck guys who want to go. Its a great place but it has it's limitations..cya
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Euro Pacific are the ones who call it tax free. And I would agree with that term because it is tax free to the person who reads the terms and conditions.
Vietnam Airlines may pay the tax, but it is totally invisible to the contract pilot. Vietnam Airlines sends money to the contractor who then deposits a nice big amount of US dollars every month to the bank of your choice. Most pilots I know have it deposited to a "tax free" off shore account to further make it "TAX FREE" from any other country wanting their share.
Last edited by Lost in Saigon; 15th Sep 2008 at 12:32. Reason: added last paragraph
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Hi,
got the latest B777 contract a few days ago.
It states that you will likely commence your contract with the standard roster pattern of 6 weeks on duty, 2 weeks off duty.
There is the opportunity to change roster patterns to 5 weeks on, 3 weeks off, or 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off, but those will be subject to approval by Vietnam Airlines.
Salaries for the above are approx: 13200 USD, 11000 USD and 8800 USD.
No schooling, no provident/pension fund and no loss of licence provided as far as i can see. I reckon that would be approx 4000 USD gone on those alone.
Add to that some form of medical/dental care for the family, along with housing in Vietnam, then thats another 2500 USD approx.
Disposable income is better here in EK, but i would imagine life in Vietnam would far exceed life here in Dubai, which gets more frustrating by the day. I guess it always comes down to some sort of compromise !.
I have some leave in Oct, so might pop over for a look around.
Rgds.
got the latest B777 contract a few days ago.
It states that you will likely commence your contract with the standard roster pattern of 6 weeks on duty, 2 weeks off duty.
There is the opportunity to change roster patterns to 5 weeks on, 3 weeks off, or 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off, but those will be subject to approval by Vietnam Airlines.
Salaries for the above are approx: 13200 USD, 11000 USD and 8800 USD.
No schooling, no provident/pension fund and no loss of licence provided as far as i can see. I reckon that would be approx 4000 USD gone on those alone.
Add to that some form of medical/dental care for the family, along with housing in Vietnam, then thats another 2500 USD approx.
Disposable income is better here in EK, but i would imagine life in Vietnam would far exceed life here in Dubai, which gets more frustrating by the day. I guess it always comes down to some sort of compromise !.
I have some leave in Oct, so might pop over for a look around.
Rgds.
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Hey guys I am just passing on what I have heard. Thats all. Maybe everyone is getting it, thats great. Good luck, but dont say I didn't warn you. Maybe someone else there might be able to throw some light on the subject of the various weekly patterns for the 320 fleet.
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Hey guys. Just looking for information on what VN looks for with A320 type rated pilots. Are they accepting guys with the "circle vmc only restriction"? Also, is there a network of local pilots there in SGN for setting up shared apartments and anything like social network, or does everyone just go their own separate way at the end of a roster/trip/ID?
Thanks for any info!
Thanks for any info!
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For the 777 Captain contract, does anyone know if the accommodation whilst in Vietnam is supplied, or is that out of your own pocket?
What is life on the line like? Local F/Os ok to fly with??
5 on 3 off sounds like a good deal to me! Is Rishworth the only contractor for them?
Thanx, Evy
What is life on the line like? Local F/Os ok to fly with??
5 on 3 off sounds like a good deal to me! Is Rishworth the only contractor for them?
Thanx, Evy