Vietnam Airlines (info please)

[capt777chris]

When are you "committed" when you talk to these contract agencies? I have only submitted paperwork, not gone to a screening yet. I signed a declaration that states "if accepted for an interview and if I successfully pass the screening I agree to be contracted only by XXXX, on its contract with yyy airline." At what time in the process are you 'committed'? Is the above statement a two parter--pass the screening and get accepted for an interview?

I was told that I could apply to several contracting agencies but to different Airlines, ie xxx contract agency for an Asian carrier and YYY agency for a Middle East carrier. Is that correct?

On another front--how does one keep current while awaiting a job offer?

[Hook Down]

Sim check paperwork

Can someone tell me what you need to bring to the sim check in Singapore as far as paperwork? Do you need to bring licenses, log books, medical, or anything else?

My contract agency is trying to get me a simulator date at the end of this month. I am leaving for a long holiday this weekend and may not have time to come back home to pick up anything so it would be great if someone can tell me what I need to bring with me on holiday in case I have to go straight down to Singapore.

Thanks a lot in advance.

[Luke Darkstar]

The agency told me to bring all the papers which were already sent as a copy (pdf file) to the agency during application before. But during sim check I didn't need to show them. Nevertheless you should have them with you just in case they want to see it during sim check.
Later on when you are starting ground training you will have to give them to the office, then they will be given to CAAV for issuing your licence.

[Hook Down]

Thanks Luke.

To clarify, did you actually bring all your log books or just a copy of the last few pages?

[stardustcologne]

I did bring the whole book, they told me to bring it with me, but I didn't need to show. Maybe it depends on the fleet if they want to see it or not. You should bring it with you. Are yours that heavy? If they are that heavy and you don't want to carry them around during your vacation then just leave it, tell them you are very sorry in case they ask for it, but definitely bring all your licences with you and then the copies of the last pages.
You will have to hand over your original logbooks later on during ground training.

[Hook Down]

OK, I get the idea now. Thanks for info Stardust.

[leegoose]

Just got back and the whole thing was pretty straight forward. Make sure you go through all those failures i.e. Dual Hyd., ADR3 w/ IR1., etc. get familiar with the book and when the thing downgrades into direct law you are handflying it and it's a little squirly....fly green dot plus 10 until configured, I flew clean green dot and got the STALL, STALL...it doesn't take much to get that(very small margin). If you are not familiar w/ the bird you need to be as it is a great tool for NPA's which by the way are all selected/selected @ VAC and for the eval. GOOD LUCK BRO!

[THRidle]

Hi Guy's, Just wondering if someone could let me know the latest route structure for the A330.

Thanks in advance.

[Jimmy Do Little]

Just wondering if someone could let me know the latest route structure for the A330.

Structure! What mean?

[ia1166]

For NPAs VAC is as with everything 100% Airbus SOPs.

As none of our approaches are validated, the vertical profile cannot be flown, only the lateral profile.

So NAV/FPA if the accuracy check is high, or TRACK/FPA on 2 engines.

One 1 engine Airbus sop is TRACK/FPA only.

All NPAs are flown as a constant descent profile to MDA where you land or carry out a missed approach. There is no descent to MDA, level off and fly into the MAP. This is in line with JAA and most of the world. It's also covered in Jepps.

Just clarifying the comment on selected approachs only mentioned above.

Incidently with VAC there is no additive to MDA for an NPA which is actually mentioned in FCOM.

[ia1166]

Direct law is fine. You may have been overweight and dual hyd fail, which will make life harder and the stall more likely due to the lack of flight controls maybe?

For the sim profile it's best to configure on a long straight final. Ask for it from ATC. Also use manual thr and don't take all the power off when you start to configure and when you do don't stop until you're at flap 2. It's G+B hyd that has failed so on selection of flap 1 you don't get anything until you select flaps2. Slats are inop. It's probably why you got the stall warner.

As a tip i've found configuring in a shallow descent makes it easier. If the VSW starts to increase towards KIAS you can gently unload the wing to control it.

anyway just my 2 bobs worth

[ia1166]

VAC are trying to instigate a 10% pay cut now.

[THRidle]

ia1166- I'm waiting for a sim. date for the 330, and in view of your last post, I'm wondering what job security you would have if starting with VAC. ??

[youwantmetodowhat]

I've heard that too. It will be interesting if the agencies show any balls and stand up for the pilots on this one. I would seriously think twice about going there after this. The contracts are really not worth the paper they are written on if they let this go through and the agencies are going to not only loose pilots but a s%^t load of money too. Thin edge of the wedge and all.

They just gave their local boys a big pay increase and I believe the former CP is now the VP of the airline is behind this. He hates expats and always has and this just is another example of it. He was apparently offered the top job at at CAAV but would not have had the power...Total power tripper...there are other desciptions for him of course but we cant use those words on this forum. Any more info from the guys there???

[nom de plume]

It will be interesting if the agencies show any balls and stand up for the pilots on this one.

Not much likelyhood of that!

I would seriously think twice about going there after this.

Since news of this pay cut came to light, I've received 3 offers for interviews with other airlines in the region. The representatives at those companies all told me that they have seen an increase in the applicant's currently at VN Air.

The contracts are really not worth the paper they are written on

This may come as a surprise, but one can never trust anything that the vietnamese say.

They just gave their local boys a big pay increase

and they still act like a bunch of monkeys.

I believe the former CP is now the VP of the airline is behind this.

True, he is now VP, and like every other fiasco that has occured at VN Air, he is directly behind it.

Total power tripper

You hit the nail squarly with the hammer on that one.

there are other desciptions for him of course but we cant use those words on this forum.

You're polite, I'll give you that.

[jumpdrive]

any news ?
other than our "dear" capt Yuc reduction plan ?
guess evryone's on a holliday he he

[longobard]

for all the guys in VNA with one PARC option scheme (A,B, or C)...when they say you have 6 weeks on duty followed by 2 weeks off, do they mean that in the 6 week period you don't have a single OFF day? If no, how many OFF days do you have per month? Does it also mean that the 2 weeks off periods you are up also with the annual leave?

thanks folks

[THRidle]

If you’re thinking of joining on the A320 fleet it’s academic as I understand recruitment has been put on hold “Indefinitely”, but yes you do get day’s off.

[classicart]

recruitment

does anyone know if VAC are still hiring for the ATR?
do they hire foreign FO's?
what about this non type rated positions I see advertised?

[longobard]

THRidle

i was thinking about 330, anyway how many OFF days in the 6 weeks period by contract?

Does the annual leave exists by contract? If yes, how many days?