Vietnam Airlines (info please)
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Hey,
no, I am not living and working there - yet. But I am working on it for quite a long time now. Hopefully I will go there soon...
I don't speak Vietnamese, I am learning with Rosetta Stone and several self study books. But the Vietnamese guys around me here are just laughing when I try to talk to them... ok, they don't understand me
as I still don't understand them. Difficult... But I guess English is helpful there most of the time, isn't it?
I am sure you will have easy shuttle to Australia when you work in Vietnam. Shouldn't be any problem. Don't wait too long with your application because you might have to wait quite a long time until you will get any response. Obviously they have plenty of A320 crews interested in joining them.
no, I am not living and working there - yet. But I am working on it for quite a long time now. Hopefully I will go there soon...
I don't speak Vietnamese, I am learning with Rosetta Stone and several self study books. But the Vietnamese guys around me here are just laughing when I try to talk to them... ok, they don't understand me
as I still don't understand them. Difficult... But I guess English is helpful there most of the time, isn't it?I am sure you will have easy shuttle to Australia when you work in Vietnam. Shouldn't be any problem. Don't wait too long with your application because you might have to wait quite a long time until you will get any response. Obviously they have plenty of A320 crews interested in joining them.
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Jumpdrive,
are you for real?
Yes, I am, and I am very pleasent with it.
I will always share my experience with those who are asking for it.
You can behave as you want to. But I will never ever let me tell how I will have to behave.
are you for real?
Yes, I am, and I am very pleasent with it.
I will always share my experience with those who are asking for it.
You can behave as you want to. But I will never ever let me tell how I will have to behave.
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Some facts and one opinion
Most places rather-very noisy.
House rent very high and rising, especially in expat areas, An Phu & Phu My Hung. Most landlords want +100% when it's time to renew contract.
Downtown and close to airport cheaper, with a bit of luck and patience.
Inflation 21%
School, approx. 1100USD/month/kid.
To and from duty taxi, motorbike, motorcycle-taxi or walk if you live in Tan Binh.
Rather different/special place/country/company but if you can cope and accept you can have a good life here.
PARC is IMO very quick to respond.
and in my opinion, tamie and likes, spare us your hearsay and "I think/heard/believe-info" This thread is long enough without a lot of static.
House rent very high and rising, especially in expat areas, An Phu & Phu My Hung. Most landlords want +100% when it's time to renew contract.
Downtown and close to airport cheaper, with a bit of luck and patience.
Inflation 21%
School, approx. 1100USD/month/kid.
To and from duty taxi, motorbike, motorcycle-taxi or walk if you live in Tan Binh.
Rather different/special place/country/company but if you can cope and accept you can have a good life here.
PARC is IMO very quick to respond.
and in my opinion, tamie and likes, spare us your hearsay and "I think/heard/believe-info" This thread is long enough without a lot of static.
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Cars are very expensive in Vietnam due to a special import tax to discourage their use. (the roads are too crowded)
Cars takes for ever to get anywhere because of all the traffic so you are better off to take a motorbike. If it rains, you stop and throw on your poncho like everyone else.
OR... Take a taxi, they are still relatively cheap if you live not too far from the airport.
Cars takes for ever to get anywhere because of all the traffic so you are better off to take a motorbike. If it rains, you stop and throw on your poncho like everyone else.
OR... Take a taxi, they are still relatively cheap if you live not too far from the airport.
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Wet season means that it rains, sometimes a lot like 60-70cm of water on the road. Airport closes etc. and then you take a taxi or wait until it passes.
Own car = nope
Own car = nope
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Acceptance
Just wondering what airplane the guys were on that are failing the evaluation. I just got an acceptance from Rishworth, and you are correct about the verification letter, but if you send a copy of your license you have to wonder why the need a letter also. Thx
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For those of you flying in the States of applying using your FAA license, can't you tell them to check the FAA site for verification of your licence? The site tells whoever looks what license and ratings you have. That's one of the reasons for having it on the FAA site. Maybe I'm missing something??
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A lot of qualified a320 operators have failed. Not knowing their way around the FCOM or QRH and not being able to fly raw data single engine in a 20kt crosswind to minima.
I think a lot of US operators have their own books. So if you have never seen an FCOM then you are pretty much buggered before you even get in the sim.
There is no chance of a half day intro to FCOM here so try to find some somewhere before you turn up.
Rain and cars. how about the recent attempt to make days off midnight to midnight GMT or local, depending on how it suits rostering (i'm not joking) and days off not in your home base.
Everyone is working hard here. It's exactly like i said earlier. 6 days on, 1 day off, unless someone wants to contradict me.
I think a lot of US operators have their own books. So if you have never seen an FCOM then you are pretty much buggered before you even get in the sim.
There is no chance of a half day intro to FCOM here so try to find some somewhere before you turn up.
Rain and cars. how about the recent attempt to make days off midnight to midnight GMT or local, depending on how it suits rostering (i'm not joking) and days off not in your home base.
Everyone is working hard here. It's exactly like i said earlier. 6 days on, 1 day off, unless someone wants to contradict me.
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Fact, most US operators create their own Books and Manuals. But, a competent A320 operator should be able to adapt to the Airbus FCOM and QRH without too much difficulty.
For the US (FAA) folks not familiar with them, it's really quite simple:
FCOM 1 - Systems Information. You probably studied this during Initial Ground Training towards your Type Rating.
FCOM 2 - Performance and Loading. Your FAA Dispatcher and Load planning department would create their manuals from this book.”
FCOM 3 - This is the operators manual. Contains the Normal, Abnormal, Emergency, SOP, and Supplementary procedures.
FCOM 4 - You'd know this one as the FMGS Training Manual.
QRH – Quick reference handbook, which you DO have in the FAA system.
At a minimum, review the “contents” pages. Then, you’ll be that much further ahead when you attend the evaluation. If you need them, feel free to IM me, and I’ll send you a generic set.
Next, your (FAA) Flight Operations Manual is broken into 4 parts and usually published as 4 separate books:
Part A – This is the FAA version of the FOM (contains Company Procedures, and data similar to FAR 121, 135, [some FAR 91] etc)
Part B – This consists of the FCOM data for any particular and specific fleet of aircraft.
Part C – This is the FAA route manual. Otherwise, your Jeppesen (or NOAA) chart set.
Part D – The Training Manual. It would include information from the FCTM (Flight Crew Training Manual – A320 Personal Trainer), content from the FCOM and the various SIM syllabus, testing standards, info from FAR 61, etc.
Intro Complete!
A number of people have shown up in the past with forged documents. You can’t blame the company for taking extra steps in the interest of safety, and the reputation of their company.
It’s not happening to everyone at VN Air. But, there does seem to be a parallel between the number of days worked, and the level of complaining by each respective pilot!
Remember, you have 6 weeks on, then 2 weeks off. (or 5 & 3, or 4 & 4) You won’t get that at Etihad, Emirates, Qatar, JetStar, or SQ. In fact, EK is 8 days off each month… regardless of what country you may be sleeping in during those 8 days!
Cars? Forget it! The cost is staggering. You can import your own car as a “Transferred Asset” but you’ll need a blood relative within VN Customs to make it happen. And, unless you were a NYC taxi driver in a former life, you wouldn’t survive on the streets. Taxis are cheap, and a lot less trouble than owning a car here. Find a good taxi driver, get his hand phone number, treat him with some respect, and you’ll have a loyal, dependable driver who will respond in minutes – at most any hour - for your entire time in Vietnam.
The trouble is that FAA licences are not compliant with ICAO accepted standards. VN issues licences that look like the ICAO document, where the FAA issues a document that looks like a “Credit Card”. It’s different; therefore it takes some extra steps to validate, as do the Brazilian licenses which also look like Credit Cards. (Before anyone says anything – I agree, the FAA makes it easy to check the validity – but, VN Air is not a US Air Carrier) Worse, you can find current licence validations for Deceased Pilots, so they don't place a lot of faith in that system.
Again, FAA guys needing a short briefing on the FCOM, feel free to IM me.
Fly safe….
For the US (FAA) folks not familiar with them, it's really quite simple:
FCOM 1 - Systems Information. You probably studied this during Initial Ground Training towards your Type Rating.
FCOM 2 - Performance and Loading. Your FAA Dispatcher and Load planning department would create their manuals from this book.”
FCOM 3 - This is the operators manual. Contains the Normal, Abnormal, Emergency, SOP, and Supplementary procedures.
FCOM 4 - You'd know this one as the FMGS Training Manual.
QRH – Quick reference handbook, which you DO have in the FAA system.
At a minimum, review the “contents” pages. Then, you’ll be that much further ahead when you attend the evaluation. If you need them, feel free to IM me, and I’ll send you a generic set.
Next, your (FAA) Flight Operations Manual is broken into 4 parts and usually published as 4 separate books:
Part A – This is the FAA version of the FOM (contains Company Procedures, and data similar to FAR 121, 135, [some FAR 91] etc)
Part B – This consists of the FCOM data for any particular and specific fleet of aircraft.
Part C – This is the FAA route manual. Otherwise, your Jeppesen (or NOAA) chart set.
Part D – The Training Manual. It would include information from the FCTM (Flight Crew Training Manual – A320 Personal Trainer), content from the FCOM and the various SIM syllabus, testing standards, info from FAR 61, etc.
There is no chance of a half day intro to FCOM here so try to find some somewhere before you turn up.
Intro Complete!
can't you tell them to check the FAA site for verification of your licence?
A number of people have shown up in the past with forged documents. You can’t blame the company for taking extra steps in the interest of safety, and the reputation of their company.
how about the recent attempt to make days off midnight to midnight GMT or local, depending on how it suits rostering (i'm not joking) and days off not in your home base. Everyone is working hard here. It's exactly like i said earlier. 6 days on, 1 day off…
It’s not happening to everyone at VN Air. But, there does seem to be a parallel between the number of days worked, and the level of complaining by each respective pilot!
Remember, you have 6 weeks on, then 2 weeks off. (or 5 & 3, or 4 & 4) You won’t get that at Etihad, Emirates, Qatar, JetStar, or SQ. In fact, EK is 8 days off each month… regardless of what country you may be sleeping in during those 8 days!
Cars? Forget it! The cost is staggering. You can import your own car as a “Transferred Asset” but you’ll need a blood relative within VN Customs to make it happen. And, unless you were a NYC taxi driver in a former life, you wouldn’t survive on the streets. Taxis are cheap, and a lot less trouble than owning a car here. Find a good taxi driver, get his hand phone number, treat him with some respect, and you’ll have a loyal, dependable driver who will respond in minutes – at most any hour - for your entire time in Vietnam.
The site tells whoever looks what license and ratings you have. That's one of the reasons for having it on the FAA site. Maybe I'm missing something??
The trouble is that FAA licences are not compliant with ICAO accepted standards. VN issues licences that look like the ICAO document, where the FAA issues a document that looks like a “Credit Card”. It’s different; therefore it takes some extra steps to validate, as do the Brazilian licenses which also look like Credit Cards. (Before anyone says anything – I agree, the FAA makes it easy to check the validity – but, VN Air is not a US Air Carrier) Worse, you can find current licence validations for Deceased Pilots, so they don't place a lot of faith in that system.
Again, FAA guys needing a short briefing on the FCOM, feel free to IM me.
Fly safe….
Last edited by Jimmy Do Little; 15th Aug 2008 at 04:51.
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Actually my friends in SQ are getting around 12-14 days at home every month, and 6 weeks leave a year. You might want to check your information.
Everyone who is already here has been knocked back when applying for 4/4 or 5/3. It would appear it's only applicable to the new joiners.
Everyone who is already here has been knocked back when applying for 4/4 or 5/3. It would appear it's only applicable to the new joiners.
