Beijing PanAm - disrespect and humiliation of instructors
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Hey Guys, Do you remember when that Chinese pilot was drunk, and flew an airplane at night?
Despite several of us saw him partying with alcohol half an hour before, nobody wanted to test him for alcohol!
Living in China is fun, but working in China for Chinese people...
P.S.
Flytoo, share that address here too!
Despite several of us saw him partying with alcohol half an hour before, nobody wanted to test him for alcohol!
Living in China is fun, but working in China for Chinese people...
P.S.
Flytoo, share that address here too!
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Loving it
Hey Spacepod!
You are gonna love this!
Rumor has it that the "other school hiring" is run by MR.
ing your dearly friend and that MR.TNT is the first one to go.
Are they scraping the bottom of the barrel or what?
comments, suggestions, verifications?
PS: Just for fun..... (the weasel is gonna love this one, by the way he is doing GREAT in BC)
You are gonna love this!
Rumor has it that the "other school hiring" is run by MR.
ing your dearly friend and that MR.TNT is the first one to go.Are they scraping the bottom of the barrel or what?
comments, suggestions, verifications?
PS: Just for fun..... (the weasel is gonna love this one, by the way he is doing GREAT in BC)
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Sinking Boat!
Hello!
The rats are leaving the boat!
Howard is gone! Have a nice trip and take care of yourself.
How many will be left at the end of the month?
Maybe, they can promote some guys from the administrative department to teach flying. It works so well with the ground school.
Have a nice weekend!
Flytoo
The rats are leaving the boat!
Howard is gone! Have a nice trip and take care of yourself.
How many will be left at the end of the month?
Maybe, they can promote some guys from the administrative department to teach flying. It works so well with the ground school.
Have a nice weekend!
Flytoo
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PROOF
Does anyone has proof?
Like may be a logbook picture with dates where those instructors were not in PAnAm.
Something solid.
It would be great to hit back wouldn't it?
Like may be a logbook picture with dates where those instructors were not in PAnAm.
Something solid.
It would be great to hit back wouldn't it?
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King Air news
Hello,
No King Air pilot anymore!
They left and don't regret it!
No CJ1 too, problem with the maintenance.
How many CFIs left? guess that they are not enough to handle all the students.
take care,
Fly safely ( no safety officer, he left too )
Flytoo
No King Air pilot anymore!
They left and don't regret it!
No CJ1 too, problem with the maintenance.
How many CFIs left? guess that they are not enough to handle all the students.
take care,
Fly safely ( no safety officer, he left too )
Flytoo
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200 Entries!!!
alphabravocharlie42,
you've got to be kidding, dude! 200 entries? Is there any documentation that you can get your hands on ? I agree with Always Moving - this needs to be reported over and above the chinese. PAYBACK TIME Mr. Chn.
you've got to be kidding, dude! 200 entries? Is there any documentation that you can get your hands on ? I agree with Always Moving - this needs to be reported over and above the chinese. PAYBACK TIME Mr. Ch
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Handan Logbooks
ABC42,
I don't think the chief pilot is going to give up his $4000.00 per month salary and all the perks (apartment, King Air training, CJ training, power) to look an any logbooks, dude! Why should he? He's got it "made in the shade."
I mean, look, it's a step up from flying ultralights, wouldn't you agree?!
I don't think the chief pilot is going to give up his $4000.00 per month salary and all the perks (apartment, King Air training, CJ training, power) to look an any logbooks, dude! Why should he? He's got it "made in the shade."
I mean, look, it's a step up from flying ultralights, wouldn't you agree?!
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How money hours are they instructing???
I wonder - with just a few instructors down there - how may hours is every instructor logging?
Or is the operation as bad as two years ago....when you hardly got more than one hour of real flying a day.
What other countries than Jordan are accepting FAA instructors?
Does anybody has more information about this Jordan flightschool.
Greets
Ben
Or is the operation as bad as two years ago....when you hardly got more than one hour of real flying a day.
What other countries than Jordan are accepting FAA instructors?
Does anybody has more information about this Jordan flightschool.
Greets
Ben
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HMM
You should also add that those guys flying that many hours, did things that are beyond most people ethics or standards, lets just said they were not friends with the rest of the FI or students for that matter (they might be slow but they are not stupid, they always end up catching up the dirty tricksters)
But things are on the look up, almost no instructors loads of flying! for how long.... who knows they already lasted longer than anyone could predict....
But things are on the look up, almost no instructors loads of flying! for how long.... who knows they already lasted longer than anyone could predict....
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So, let's see: you can fly easily 30hrs a month after the 10 months that you need to get your license issued in China... that makes 120hrs in a 14 months contract: less then 9hrs a month... of single engine piston!
That will definitely improve your cv!
That will definitely improve your cv!
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HMM 2
Moving,
This whole company doesn't have the ethics and standards of most people, dude! but my countdown has started.
For any of you would-be panamers, or those of you who want the latest news:
1. Standards Manager resigns from his position (what standards?)
2. CJ Manager resigns from his position (great opportunity for the CFI to move up now. You go gett'm, dude! More control, power, money)
3. Still no selection of new King Air pilots! (maybe their reducing and changing the requirements again to meet their own needs, and because no one's left HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!)
4. 3 instructors leaving on payday (hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil)
Enjoy the show!
This whole company doesn't have the ethics and standards of most people, dude! but my countdown has started.
For any of you would-be panamers, or those of you who want the latest news:
1. Standards Manager resigns from his position (what standards?)
2. CJ Manager resigns from his position (great opportunity for the CFI to move up now. You go gett'm, dude! More control, power, money)
3. Still no selection of new King Air pilots! (maybe their reducing and changing the requirements again to meet their own needs, and because no one's left HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!)
4. 3 instructors leaving on payday (hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil)
Enjoy the show!
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Well, at least they are not in denial about losing instructors quickly!
From climbto350.com, June 14:
"BPIAA currently has over 400 students, 70 instructors, 49 aircraft..."
From climbto350.com, August 6:
"BPIAA currently has over 400 students, 50 instructors, 49 aircraft..."
From climbto350.com, June 14:
"BPIAA currently has over 400 students, 70 instructors, 49 aircraft..."
From climbto350.com, August 6:
"BPIAA currently has over 400 students, 50 instructors, 49 aircraft..."
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I fly 45 hours a month here.
spacepodlife you wrote:
So, let's see: you can fly easily 30hrs a month after the 10 months that you need to get your license issued in China... that makes 120hrs in a 14 months contract: less then 9hrs a month... of single engine piston!
Yes right! As I said you need your license in order to fly. 9 hours or even 0 if it takes your whole contract to get your license.
Alwaysmoving: you were one of the 6!!!
You were always moving and flying crosscountry.
genghis khan: What does "CJ manager" stand for?
spacepodlife you wrote:
So, let's see: you can fly easily 30hrs a month after the 10 months that you need to get your license issued in China... that makes 120hrs in a 14 months contract: less then 9hrs a month... of single engine piston!
Yes right! As I said you need your license in order to fly. 9 hours or even 0 if it takes your whole contract to get your license.
Alwaysmoving: you were one of the 6!!!
You were always moving and flying crosscountry.genghis khan: What does "CJ manager" stand for?
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ABC42,
You ask what does CJ manager stand for? Let me see. If I were to make an educated guess, CJ, as it is referred to in this thread, means Citation Jet. Manager, as it is defined in the dictionary means someone who handles, controls, or directs.
So I guess CJ Manager means the person who handles, controls, or directs the operation of the Citation Jet, dude!
I apologize for the error in my terminology - I've been in the Chinese ATC system too long, and there are so many managers around this place, I may have got confused with who manages what!!! Sh, I don't know if the dude was a manager, assistant manager, general flunky, or janitor!! People change titles here more often than a snake sheds it's skin, dude!! Chill!!!!
Moving: Who do I pay off to get some cross countries?
Rumor verification: I heard one of our former instructors got an email from the Chinese SVP threatening to sue him and revoke his CAAC certificate if he went to work at another school in China. Can anyone verify this?
You ask what does CJ manager stand for? Let me see. If I were to make an educated guess, CJ, as it is referred to in this thread, means Citation Jet. Manager, as it is defined in the dictionary means someone who handles, controls, or directs.
So I guess CJ Manager means the person who handles, controls, or directs the operation of the Citation Jet, dude!
I apologize for the error in my terminology - I've been in the Chinese ATC system too long, and there are so many managers around this place, I may have got confused with who manages what!!!
Sh, I don't know if the dude was a manager, assistant manager, general flunky, or janitor!! People change titles here more often than a snake sheds it's skin, dude!! Chill!!!!Moving: Who do I pay off to get some cross countries?
Rumor verification: I heard one of our former instructors got an email from the Chinese SVP threatening to sue him and revoke his CAAC certificate if he went to work at another school in China. Can anyone verify this?
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Early times of making history in china GLASS!
I did not pay anyone and although persistent (may be too persistent to some dispatchers likening) but I never pull any dirty tricks. (God knows that I wanted to some of the "great aviators")
But like MR Chk said we were making history! may be we could even write a book. In hindsight he did make a historic move to head of sales of diamond! and may be he should write a book about maneuvering and deceiving, I might even buy it I thought he did great (SERIOUSLY HERE!)
I always wonder how much money did he pocket and if the Chinese saw it coming or it did it Washington-Saudi style.
Those threats are BULL they can not do it. and if they want to work for somebody else PM me and I will point to the the 3 other directions.
This is becoming a great thread thu has nothing to do with the beginning post!
is like a daily news and rumors. LOL
I know rally is loving it!
But like MR Ch
k said we were making history! may be we could even write a book. In hindsight he did make a historic move to head of sales of diamond! and may be he should write a book about maneuvering and deceiving, I might even buy it I thought he did great (SERIOUSLY HERE!)I always wonder how much money did he pocket and if the Chinese saw it coming or it did it Washington-Saudi style.
Those threats are BULL
they can not do it. and if they want to work for somebody else PM me and I will point to the the 3 other directions.This is becoming a great thread thu has nothing to do with the beginning post!
is like a daily news and rumors. LOL
I know rally is loving it!