Air Japan (AJX) B767

[Buttscratcher]

To the geographically challenged noobs, I say again, Narita is not Tokyo!

[Fratemate]

Thanks to the mods for re-naming the thread and bringing it up-to-date. Hopefully one day we'll write again and get the 'B767' changed

[The Dominican]

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[Fratemate]

I'm assuming that's not aimed at me, Dom. As someone who is definitely NOT a suck-up for any reason I cannot imagine it is

[Ronand]

As Fo can you expect to fly mainly with other expats? Or are u flying a lot with japanese captains? And what are the chances to get an upgrade as expat Fo in the current situation?

[The Dominican]

@Ronand......!

I recommend that you go back and read the posts on this thread, I realize that it is massive but if you just go back about a year worth of posts and read from there on, you will get all the information you want but most importantly, you will get a lot of information you didn't realized that you needed. Your questions for example, they have been dissected and explained over and over and over and over over and over and over...!

[alloha]

I was really skeptical if i have to write this post but i think every new info to someone who wants to join Air Japan would be useful .Its gonna be long enough

Agent: I found Parc to be very professional .They supported me quite well .From the time i expressed my interest it took me 58 days to find myself landing in HND.To be More precise they offered me assessment dates 12 working days after i send the full package of the required documentation.

Traveling : If you book through various e-ticketing sites (i used LH official,of course i picked code shared flights with ANA) call ANA'S office in your region and ask for ANA reservation code.It gives you access to ANA web check in 24h before flight and emergency exits in economy are FREE AND AVAILABLE.

Hotel: The biggest problem.Room is something like 12 square meters .I wish i knew that.Since i payed for hotel , i should have asked a better place with a better bed.IMHO if 150-200$ its nothing for this job.I only managed to sleep 5 hours.Actually i never got used to the jet lag.Arrived in hotel at 16.00 and went out for a walk.I only slept from 02.00 until 07.30 .

Screening. I was alone.Theo other guy call it off the last time.I started at 15.15 with the written exam.FAA stuff.Two ladies from the ANA HR.Extremely polite.I was done in 15 minutes.Then the MMPI.I spent almost 1 hour and then they called me for the sim briefing.I got in to the room.3 retired ANA's pilots the 2 ladies i mentioned before and another guy mid 40's from the HR.The best board of people i ever met.BY FAR.Friendly and casual made me feel like home.THEY WANT YOU TO SUCCEED .Just a few Qs about my travel to Japan etc.Then the sim briefing.One of the pilot apologized for his English.He told me they have recorded the briefing and he was pointing out the key factors on the board.I had a few questions.About the T.O Briefing (he told me only the V1 aborted rules according to your company) and approach briefing (Frequencies and M.A he told me in his best smile).After 45 minutes we were done.They offered me a break of 15 minutes.I went outside ,one of the ladies from the HR ,asked me if i need anything and told me "you are doing great keep it that way.
At 17.25 i got back in the room.It was like a family gathering.so relaxed.The HR asked me about ANA.I knew a lot.about the 5 star on Skytrax they had received 5 days ago.About the last flight of 747.About the new slots from Haneda even about the new employees started in April in a ceremony in Haneda.They were pleased .She told me that.Then the guy told me about a class on September or November.I Said i would do nothing but some extra vacations and maybe study about the 767.He was looking for dedication.I just said the truth.
Pilots interview: 2 questions each. P2 duties during CAT2 (they want you to tell about taking control if no decision at minima and initiate a go around), runaway edge lights.Then the other pilot asked me about GPWS and E-GPWS.The last guy asked me about microbursts and the difference about contact approach and visual approach.25 minutes and i was done.I asked for a small break before i get done with MMPI.The same lady asked me again if i need anything.She told me that everything is perfect so far.She was impressed from what i told them about ANA.Then i get done with MMPI and at 19.30 it was sim time.They told me that since i am alone i have 2 take offs for orientation on couple approach doing nothing and then a visual approach conducted by me.So it was almost another 30 minutes.During the assessment period everything was superb.i maintained altitude and airspeed i called the SOPS the way they wanted.After completing the VOR approach my captain told me "ok 3 minutes break your doing great work".I was very tired close to my limits.Final take off Engine cut(#2) again everything fine.according to the sim briefing.Then on the base turn disaster found me.I used and intermediate setting on rudder trim.i asked for flaps 5 speed 175 and add some thrust.i felt my right leg relaxing on the rudder the aircraft rolled to the left almost 35' bank.I applied rudder with full throttle lost 200ft then gain another 200.Speed all over.I managed to make the final turn fly a stabilized approach but i knew it it was over.Landed.the captain told me to relax.This HR lady was inside the SIM was evenly shocked with me.it took me 3 minutes to get myself together.I gave my hand to everyone .it was bittersweet.They were so nice and did everything to help me.I walked out of the sim.the HR lady talked to me again (oh we gonna have hard time now to decide).I smiled and told her."I know i failed but i couldnt do anything more.i was collapsing from fatigue".The rest of the board were outside the Sim.I personally thank everyone of them .Back in the hotel.2 hours later the mail of rejection arrived.I didnt expect anything less. I was for the next 3-4 hours.I knew i messed a great job opportunity,maybe a life time changer and i know i will not have another shot with Air Japan.I wish i could but. All in all do some basic study be your self ,show commitment ,learn a lot about ANA AND FLY THE SIM.Its all it takes.They are wonderful people with great attitude.Good Luck to anyone who will have an assessment with Air Japan

[alloha]

Oh i forgot. 13 years flying solely the 737/EFIS with 6000H.I did my last LPC in March and my last flight was late January.Cheers

[gcpilot8]

Sorry to hear about your loss. Thank you for sharing your experience.With your attitude and humbleness, you will find something good. Good luck and stay positive.

Thanks again

[jet747]

How to get a Type rating Removed from ATP Certificate

Hi Alloha, Thanks for sharing !!

That event prepare you for the next one so don't give up, keep searching and you will found what is there fore you.

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I have a very old type rating ( B 727 SIC ) on my ATP Certificate. I really don't need it anymore since I'm typed on B 747, 757, 767 and i'm currently flying last one.

When you work overseas they really don't like to see those limitations.

Help please,

Thanks,

Jacob

[Fratemate]

What do you need help with?

[jet747]

Soory,

I want to delete that B727 SIC on my certificate

[Fratemate]

I don't know why you think 'they' don't like to see old ratings with restrictions on them; after all, we weren't born with a 787 type rating and 'they' know everyone started somewhere. So long as you have the appropriate qualifications then you're able to apply and 'they' are really only interested in what you can do now and your experience level. There are many and varied pilots within AJX and a corresponding collection of aircraft types and experience, including 'oldies' like the B727 and DC8.

Personally, I'd leave it how it is but if you're really determined to remove a type from your licence, just contact the FAA and ask them to do it (I say FAA as you give your location as USA). Getting something removed is a lot easier than getting it added

[Buttscratcher]

You could.... I guess, but then try to explain the hours in your log pertaining to a type you don't have. 'They' will be all over that like a fat kid on a cupcake

[The Dominican]

His problem is that the type is an (SIC) is not a type that is recognized by many of these contracts, I had a "circling VMC only" restriction on one of my types and I had to get it removed before I started working here, I was lucky in the sense that I was currently flying the airplane and a check airman on it so one of the FAA designee from the company watched me shoot a couple of approaches and he removed it. We do have a lot of guys with every kind of A/C on their certificate but the SIC type is something the FAA came up after ICAO wanted a worldwide standard that all crew members had to be typed on the airplane, this happened a few years ago so the FAA in all their wisdoms came up with a cheap type that requires less training thus saving the airlines money in training, the problem is that everywhere else it is worth the plastic it's printed on Unlike my case, you are not currently flying the A/C so it would pretty much be a full type rating course that will run you $12K.......!

Have you consulted with the contract companies? They require a type without restrictions and you have more than one on your certificate that are unrestricted, they might accept that, I don't know if the line guys will have the answer to that.
Well, outside of dusting your 727 manuals and have your wife not speak to you for a month

[iggle piggle]

Is there a process by which you can request 'short working' with Air Japan? I know you can have it imposed but was curious as to whether or not you can request it.

[Fratemate]

They require a type without restrictions and you have more than one on your certificate that are unrestricted

Hi TD,

That's what I was referring to when I wrote:

So long as you have the appropriate qualifications then you're able to apply and 'they' are really only interested in what you can do now and your experience level.

Jet747 has at least one unrestricted rating on an acceptable type so they can tick the 'qualified' box and move on. It doesn't matter what else is on the licence as it is just surplus to requirements. More importantly, the rating doesn't need to be removed from the licence, nor the restriction removed from the rating, if any other type rating qualifies him for the job.

[Fratemate]

Iggle Piggle,

Part time working is not currently available, neither are the old 'absent days', where you could have extra days off but just forfeit the money. Do not plan on getting any time off in addition to the normal 10 days off, 2 commuting days and the annual 24 vacation days. 'Talking up' extras to the contract in order to justify applying will lead to disillusion and disappointment.

[The Dominican]

Applying logic that's the way I read it as well Frate...! But...........

[jet747]

Good Job Dominican and Fratemate !!

Thanks for your Help,

By the end of this year, I'm really thinking to Surrender that B727 SIC. It is really a negative sticker on my ATP