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Old 22nd Feb 2013, 02:24
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However, the QF guys are, so far, exclusively FOs and not capts and this is going to be the general thrust of recruiting for the foreseeable future for all candidates, not just Qantas. I confirmed this in the office very recently, so it's not just rumour. I was told that if a 'very good' capt candidate applied they would consider him as a DEC and by 'very good' they mean JCAB licence and 767 type rating but they are specifically targeting FOs because we have enough capts.
I shall re-post this since it is obviously FAR too difficult for some people to go back 2 pages and see what has been written about NTR captains

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Old 22nd Feb 2013, 10:00
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Thanks Dom and Fratemate for your info.

Take it easy FM, my question aroused with your message stating there had been some NTR captains hiring at the moment, and having the PARC refusal to go to interview...

We people do our homework at reading, and we highly appreciate your info,s.

Thanks again Dom and FM.

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Old 22nd Feb 2013, 10:53
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taz, you've got mail!
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Old 26th Feb 2013, 15:53
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no answer from parc

Sent application 20th december 2013 to parc
Received automatic mail from mrs Fiona ....."I will review your information upon my return to the office on January 7th and will be in contact should further information be required."....
no further mail received since
Asked for any infoes about my application 2 weeks ago....no answer



b767 capt rated and current.......

fortunately i have other options
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Old 28th Feb 2013, 07:27
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Believe me when I say that if you get a job here, the communication from the contract companies don't get any better
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Old 28th Feb 2013, 15:38
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I exceed the posted minimums but is anyone ever actually hired or even interviewed with strictly RJ-SIC time and no TPIC? I have 1000 PIC piston as well.. not that this is worth anything..

I have seen RJ pilots have been hired, but it looks like they all had some TPIC.

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Old 28th Feb 2013, 18:33
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I exceed the posted minimums...
Really...What about the part that says "Valid Jet Aircraft Command Rating."
I got rejected with two type ratings and 3K SIC in heavy jets.
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Old 28th Feb 2013, 20:51
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We don't have an insight into the hiring process but for what I have seen, all the F/O's hired from the regionals have TPIC times.
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Old 28th Feb 2013, 21:26
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thanks-
How many pilots do you currently have working there now? Is the turnover fairly high? Any idea on future hiring #'s?
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Old 1st Mar 2013, 03:02
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As far as I know you do not need any jet PIC time to apply for an FO job here. Only requirement is a Command Rating (Some countries call it a P1 Rating) on a jet CRJ or bigger.
I had no airline jet PIC time when I came here.
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Old 1st Mar 2013, 03:13
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Really....I wonder why I got the no thanks with a 744 and MD-11 Type. Possibly age...
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Old 1st Mar 2013, 04:06
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As far as I know you do not need any jet PIC time to apply for an FO job here. Only requirement is a Command Rating (Some countries call it a P1 Rating) on a jet CRJ or bigger.
I had no airline jet PIC time when I came here.
Well, that is encouraging..

I'll send in my stuff and hope for the best. Sounds like a pretty good place to be.
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Old 1st Mar 2013, 08:38
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Absolutely As far as I know you do not need any jet PIC time to apply for an FO job here. Only requirement is a Command Rating (Some countries call it a P1 Rating) on a jet CRJ or bigger.
I had no airline jet PIC time when I came here.
Yeah! But you "special"

As of lately I should have said, you are an old rumor it will be interesting to see if guys without TPIC start getting interviews, I just haven't heard of anybody that came from the right seat of an RJ.

Absolutely is correct in the sense that is not part of the minimums, so give it a world and let us know how it went
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Old 1st Mar 2013, 19:05
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For what it's worth, I am a regional captain in the US with 3500 TPIC. 7000TT. I've had my app in since October of 2012. I just flew with an FO that applied last month. He has about 5000TT, 0 TPIC and does not have his ATP yet. He was called by CREW pretty quickly and told that they are very interested in his application and for him to call them back as soon as he gets his ATP (he will get it on his PC this month). So it certainly doesn't hurt to apply, but I'm not sure what the criteria are to be called for the interview. He is single with no kids, so maybe CREW is concerned about Healthcare costs in that they pay for them all so anyone who is married with kids goes to the bottom of the pile right now. That's the only reason I can think of. Maybe when the application asks you to write about your hobbies and interests, including family life isn't the way to go.
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Old 1st Mar 2013, 20:58
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Well Finnally Heard back from PARC re DEC

After a long delay almost a year my application was rejected by the client.
(no explanation)

4000TPIC 737NG stuff
Etops Qualified
10000 plus
under the age of 40.
Family good health etc.

So... who knows - maybe its like the guys are saying I need a 67 endorsement.

Was really interested in this one so its disappointing.

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Old 2nd Mar 2013, 10:01
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Decent quals, WJA, but see above regarding DEC. They'd more than likely be very interested in you for an FO slot but without a JCAB ATPL and a 767 type rating you can forget DEC (until something else changes in the space-time continuum).

That is absolutely **** that they took almost a year to decide yay or nay. Parc need a bloody good kick up the arse because they are really getting pretty slack. It's bad enough they do bugger-all once you're in AJX but to spend that long putting your application through just smacks of disorganisation and piss-poor service.

If FO is an option for you, give Crew a go.

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Old 5th Mar 2013, 02:14
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Speculation

Having a family will not eliminate you from consideration for any of these jobs. The screeners are too busy counting up your night cross country time and evaluating your flying skills to worry about costs of medical insurance.

It's hard enough to get hired here. If peripheral things like whether or not you have a family could be cause for elimination no one would get hired.
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Old 7th Mar 2013, 15:24
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Thanks FrateMate

Ya, the wait of a year was actually the most frustrating part - but based on what I had read here regarding DEC and the now necessary 67 endorsement I figured that I would at the very least simply be put in a pool, although Im not sure of one exists.

Not sure I want to go FO, I dont know enough about upgrade times and sitting in the LHS now part of me says sit tight and watch for other DEC contracts.

Korean is always looking for 777 DEC but they want 67 or 57 time .. which to me is interesting bc the 37NG to 777 is a 14 day conversion course.

I have the ETOPS experience the multi crew, the airline experience so its frustrating that 500hrs in a 57 or 67 would make me a better 777 Capt.

"fly from the ears forward" ive always been told, meaning fly the numbers fly the SOPS and whats behind you will follow safely.

Interested in any and all advice people on how to break into the widebody market in a DEC role.

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Old 14th Mar 2013, 13:25
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general operational stuff

Hi everyone,

I am enquiring about the general workings of this contract and the lifestyle it provides. First of all thanks to all those regular posters and the helpful info that has been shared on this forum (Dominicanís "training" post on page 72 was particularly interesting and a few lessons I have already put in my bag of tricks for the future).

I was pleased to read that you can generally commute on your last day of duty. A few q's on this:
1. Is it possible to change between a confirmed provided ticket and the $2k allowance on a month to month basis?
2. Can you usually get a business class seat or does it never happen due to loads or other staff with higher priority?
3. Do other carriers in the alliance honour the staff travel, i.e. Qantas and Lufthansa etc.?
4. Can you take your annual leave as a block after your guaranteed consecutive time off? i.e. 17 days on then 1 travel day + 10 days off + 1 travel day + 12 days annual leave (for a total of 24 days off), then return to work?

Living in Japan.
5. Do most people share a crash pad or just pay for a hotel for the nights that they are at their designated base between trips?
6. Does this cut into your salary dramatically?
7.Does the company or contract agencies assist with finding your feet during initial training or is it a case of being thrown in the deep end and sink or swim?

On the line:
I have read a few posts about rosters and fatigue. In my current position some months I feel like superman on low hours and reserves. Other months the early starts followed by back of the clock max hours and duty changes make me feel like a zombie.
8. What are the average hours per swing of an FO/crew? Do rostering push the limits?
9. If rostering make an illegal roster and you notify them do they rectify it? Are you persecuted?
10. Can you bid for trips, layovers, days off etc. Can you extend a swing and get more days off?

Thanks in advance for any info or comments. If I have missed something covered in previous posts, sorry, I have read quite a lot lately.
I am keen to hear from people currently in the trenches or recently hired.

Cheers
VneII

ps. if you don't want to post just pm and I will get back to you. thanks.
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Old 14th Mar 2013, 14:49
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1. Is it possible to change between a confirmed provided ticket and the $2k allowance on a month to month basis?
Yes, the key is to do it well in advance, they don't like it when you come two days before your scheduled day to go home with "BTW, I need a business class ticket for tomorrow" that creates all kinds of headaches for them, but if you are organized in terms of what you want to do for that particular month and give them a heads up (I make it a point to give them no less than 10 days advanced notice for my monthly commute request) you can change your request from month to month.
2. Can you usually get a business class seat or does it never happen due to loads or other staff with higher priority?
It is a confirmed business class seat and you get to keep the miles (most of us have the ANA mileage program and it is pretty good) if you decide to commute that way for the month. Now, be mindful that if you commute by ZED, ANA's staff will NOT put you in business if you identify yourself an employee, even if they have space available like they do on other airlines, if you chose to go ZED, you will be in coach, even if business class is empty.

3. Do other carriers in the alliance honour the staff travel, i.e. Qantas and Lufthansa etc.?
Yes
4. Can you take your annual leave as a block after your guaranteed consecutive time off? i.e. 17 days on then 1 travel day + 10 days off + 1 travel day + 12 days annual leave (for a total of 24 days off), then return to work?
Yes
5. Do most people share a crash pad or just pay for a hotel for the nights that they are at their designated base between trips?
Both, some guys are at the hotel and others have apartments. The hotel will get old though! There is so much bitching about scheduling from the cabin attendants of other airlines that you will be able to handle during breakfast and dinner at the crew cafeteria, listening to the same conversations over and over again, while they consume the wine they stole from the galley during the flight will be enough to drive even the most patient person totally mental

6. Does this cut into your salary dramatically?
Yes, depending on how many nights you are in Narita that month (varies from month to month, anywhere from 6 to 12 nights) you will spend more than your allowance, if you go with the apartment, some guys are sharing so the costs are lower, some of us are by ourselves in an apartment, evidently you will spend more like that but it is well worth it in my view.
7.Does the company or contract agencies assist with finding your feet during initial training or is it a case of being thrown in the deep end and sink or swim?
Listen, the agencies are worthless (some do try but at the end of the day, the company is their CLIENT, not you, they will do what the company says)haven said that, the company has appointed a group of pilots as training liaisons, they are there to answer any question or bring any concerns to the company.

8. What are the average hours per swing of an FO/crew? Do rostering push the limits?
It varies (not very knowledgable about the F/O's rosters to be honest) I know than since there are less F/O's than captains, they do fly a little more than we do, the problem here is not the amount of hours per month, other airlines fly a lot more than we do, the problem here is the constant change from day to night and back to day during the same trip pattern, very fatiguing!
9. If rostering make an illegal roster and you notify them do they rectify it? Are you persecuted?
I have to say that we were very pleased when they agreed to implement scheduling guidelines that were suggested by the pilot group, scheduling is trying their best to enforce those guidelines and if you come a cross a pattern or duty that is not compliant (after verification with the scheduling committee) if it is verified that is not in compliance, they will change it.
10. Can you bid for trips, layovers, days off etc. Can you extend a swing and get more days off?
You can only bid for days off, not sure what you mean with "extend a swing" but you can use your vacation days to extend your days off in a monthly basis.
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