Air Japan (AJX) B767
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That is interesting Middlepath, I have not heard that. A couple days ago, I was told by an upper management guy that AJV will continue to hire for the rest of this year and throughout next year as well.
Coolio,
I wish I could help you out on that one; it doesn't sound as though you will want to get your 57/67 time the way I got mine: grinding throught the airline system for 22 years, first at a regional carrier and then at a major before I finally got lucky and landed here. Maybe someone else will have a better suggestion
Coolio,
I wish I could help you out on that one; it doesn't sound as though you will want to get your 57/67 time the way I got mine: grinding throught the airline system for 22 years, first at a regional carrier and then at a major before I finally got lucky and landed here. Maybe someone else will have a better suggestion
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minimum requirement
Hello Toys
does anybody know if ANA will consider your application also if you do not meet the total flight time by just a little?
Thanks in advance for the answer
Buzz
does anybody know if ANA will consider your application also if you do not meet the total flight time by just a little?
Thanks in advance for the answer
Buzz
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I know Buzz, it sucks! all I can tell you is apply and see what happens but it is our experience that the Japanese look at this in a very black and white manner, to them if you are missing an hour or a thousand hours to meet their minimums it is just that, you don't meet the minimums period! and besides, with this development at Jalways all of a sudden there are 100+ Japanese ATPL holders with tons of heavy time that are experienced in their training methodology, route structure, culture.....! well, let me put it this way. For those in the pool or expecting to jump in the pool, there are 100+ Michel Phelps just about to jump in the pool with you, not good
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Q400
G' day guys and ladettes,
I am in the middle of applying for the current Q400 commands with Parc and had heard down a very long grape vine that guys have got onto the 767 and other wides after completeion of contract on the Q400.
Any one heard this ??? would it be possible.
Yep I have been reading the posts about 1000 hrs heavy time.
Just trying to source other avenues
V
G' day guys and ladettes,
I am in the middle of applying for the current Q400 commands with Parc and had heard down a very long grape vine that guys have got onto the 767 and other wides after completeion of contract on the Q400.
Any one heard this ??? would it be possible.
Yep I have been reading the posts about 1000 hrs heavy time.
Just trying to source other avenues
V
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From what I have heard along the grapevine , to date there has been no one come from the dash Q400 contracts,or the B737 ones.
Be very very weary of any contract company that is pushing this one.......
Be very very weary of any contract company that is pushing this one.......
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Hi!
I just applied as I suddenly met the mins as the JCAB now accepts military time.
The mins are 3000 jet and 1000 jet civilian hours.
BUT: They only count P1/P2 time.
So, INSTRUCTOR time does NOT count, and neither does Solo (as a student) or any student time (or helicopter time), or any other aircrew time, for that matter (nav, simulator, etc.).
So if you were a Captain, or First Officer it is counted (or military single-pilot fighter time, after you have 1000 Civilian P1/P2 time). Anything else counts 0.
cliff
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I just applied as I suddenly met the mins as the JCAB now accepts military time.
The mins are 3000 jet and 1000 jet civilian hours.
BUT: They only count P1/P2 time.
So, INSTRUCTOR time does NOT count, and neither does Solo (as a student) or any student time (or helicopter time), or any other aircrew time, for that matter (nav, simulator, etc.).
So if you were a Captain, or First Officer it is counted (or military single-pilot fighter time, after you have 1000 Civilian P1/P2 time). Anything else counts 0.
cliff
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For those of you on the AJX side... what is the preference for
accomodations while in Tokyo?
Are pilots mostly crashpadding or staying in hotels?
What is the typical cost of either option?
Thanks.
accomodations while in Tokyo?
Are pilots mostly crashpadding or staying in hotels?
What is the typical cost of either option?
Thanks.
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About the same. Allowance is $550/mth of which you'll probably spend 6-700/mth for a hotel room. Most decent apartments are around $1100/mth (all in USD)( which are big enough for 2 guys) plus you'll pay about another 100 each/mth for utilities and cable tele. At the moment it's probably 50/50 as far as what guys are doing.If your a big girlies blouse, like Dominican, you'll stay in the hotel, cause he can't look after himself ( let alone cook!!).
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I've seen the sample AJX roster any chance of an AJV roster? How many days off do you really get for your home time. I believe its 10 for AJX and 12 for AJV, just wondered what you get in reality, is it more than this?
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AJV days off
From the currently posted CReW contract:
Days Off: 10 free duty of which 8 min. consecutive days off and 20/21 operations days per month.
Days Off: 10 free duty of which 8 min. consecutive days off and 20/21 operations days per month.
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I'm actually a pretty good cook and cooking for my family is one of my favorite pass times. The apartment has a lot of advantages over the hotel because it is your own space, you don't have to pack and un pack every time you are going on an overnight trip, you can cook your favorite meals, it is a place of your own. But strangely enough that is the major problem the apartment has on my view because I want the time away from my home to feel that I am away from my home
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A2D,
AJV get 11 days off, not 12. Basically, you get your contactural 10 days off and then they add a 'Blank Day' to give you a total of 11 off per month. In addition, you get 2 vacation days per month which you can save or spend as you wish. So, if you wanted to, you could have 13 days off, if you choose to use your vacation days each month.
Once in Japan, it's easiest to accept the fact that they own you. The roster is normally pretty full and most standby days at the moment seem to be changed to a duty. There's normally 2-3 dead heading trips between NRT & KIX. Basically, you're on the 'go' most days apart from a day off every 7 or so. I take this as being a good thing; I'd much rather my company be flying aircraft and me busy than the alternative
If you're looking for a job to sit around and do little, the don't bother applying. If you want a job with a decent company, that pays pretty well, honours your days off and flies the tidiest aircraft you'll ever see, then come on in, the water's lovely.
AJV get 11 days off, not 12. Basically, you get your contactural 10 days off and then they add a 'Blank Day' to give you a total of 11 off per month. In addition, you get 2 vacation days per month which you can save or spend as you wish. So, if you wanted to, you could have 13 days off, if you choose to use your vacation days each month.
Once in Japan, it's easiest to accept the fact that they own you. The roster is normally pretty full and most standby days at the moment seem to be changed to a duty. There's normally 2-3 dead heading trips between NRT & KIX. Basically, you're on the 'go' most days apart from a day off every 7 or so. I take this as being a good thing; I'd much rather my company be flying aircraft and me busy than the alternative
If you're looking for a job to sit around and do little, the don't bother applying. If you want a job with a decent company, that pays pretty well, honours your days off and flies the tidiest aircraft you'll ever see, then come on in, the water's lovely.
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I'm not sure about PARC, but I know that CReW recently changed their days off structure.
CReW originally has had 10 days off, 8 of which are consecutive, for AJX (passenger side). And used to have 10 days off consecutive for AJV (cargo).
However, their contract changed in the last month or so, to where BOTH passenger and cargo only get the 8 days off consecutive, 10 total. No longer a difference between pax and cargo as far as days off goes, as far as CReW goes...
I understand though that they practice giving guys 10 days off consecutive, however the contract says 8 consecutive guaranteed, and you should take that as the official word.
Commuting takes place on your days off.
Kinda rambled, but hope you understood.
CReW originally has had 10 days off, 8 of which are consecutive, for AJX (passenger side). And used to have 10 days off consecutive for AJV (cargo).
However, their contract changed in the last month or so, to where BOTH passenger and cargo only get the 8 days off consecutive, 10 total. No longer a difference between pax and cargo as far as days off goes, as far as CReW goes...
I understand though that they practice giving guys 10 days off consecutive, however the contract says 8 consecutive guaranteed, and you should take that as the official word.
Commuting takes place on your days off.
Kinda rambled, but hope you understood.
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There's no difference, in practise, between how the Company handles days off for pilots using different agencies. Most pilots take all of their days off consecutively i.e. 11 days off for AJV. Some pilots split their days off in two, but that's the guys who live 'locally' e.g. Korea.
Our Japanese employers are decent people and they realise we are going to want to take our days off at home and not spend them in Japan, after all, that's the idea of having a commuting contract. I'm 100% confident they are not going to start upsetting the apple cart by giving us 8 days at home and then 2 off in Japan as they could guarantee the riot it would cause. Despite CloudSailor's caution about the literal wording in the contract, I believe you can plan on getting all of your days off consecutively.
I haven't got my contract to hand but if Parc's says '10 consecutive days off' and CReW's says '8' then I know what I'd be doing.
Our Japanese employers are decent people and they realise we are going to want to take our days off at home and not spend them in Japan, after all, that's the idea of having a commuting contract. I'm 100% confident they are not going to start upsetting the apple cart by giving us 8 days at home and then 2 off in Japan as they could guarantee the riot it would cause. Despite CloudSailor's caution about the literal wording in the contract, I believe you can plan on getting all of your days off consecutively.
I haven't got my contract to hand but if Parc's says '10 consecutive days off' and CReW's says '8' then I know what I'd be doing.
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I'm just going by what CReW's website states, and by what the CReW contract offers. CReW is owned in part by ANA. So, according to CReW, their contract will never offer less than the PARC one. However, that is just what I heard from them, not necessarily a fact. I do know that the CReW contract's guaranteed consecutive days off changed in the last 3 months. As Fratemate says though, if PARC actually still does offer a better contract, go with them.
If you look on www.crewresourcesworldwide.com you will see that both CA and FO, AJV (cargo) and AJX (pax) contracts, clearly state the 10 days off a month, only 8 of which is guaranteed consecutive. The cargo side (AJV) contract recently changed on the CReW website. It used to state 10 days off consecutive, now it states 10 days off, of which 8 are guaranteed consecutive. Now, if you choose to "burn" vacation days, you can increase your days off, but of course you are left without a big vacation block of days off sometime later on in the year.
In my opinion, this is the best expat, commuting contract out there. However, it is important to clearly understand the commuting situation. You will be leaving the U.S. back to TYO two days prior to operation days. So, if you begin your work days on say, Saturday, you need to leave the U.S. mainland on a flight on Thursday. Both Thursday and Friday, commuting days, are still technically on your time off, which can effectively turn the guaranteed minimum 8 days off into effectively 6 days at home a month. If you are lucky to get the 10 days off consecutive, and add 2 days of "burned" vacation, you can make it 12 days consecutive. Still, they are completely clear that commuting takes place on your days off and that the 8 consecutive is all you are actually guaranteed by the contract.
CReW is very straightforward about all this, with no sugar-coating. You need to clearly know what you get into and they want you well informed. If you call them directly (number listed on website) they will answer any and all questions clearly. They offered me the contract, and I was truly honored by it, however the possibility of 6 days at home per month (without burning vacation) was out of the question for me. CReW specifically told me that "right now the practice is to give pilots the 10 consecutive days off, however, if operational necessity demands a change, the contract only guarantees 8 days off consecutive, both AJV and AJX"....
If you look on www.crewresourcesworldwide.com you will see that both CA and FO, AJV (cargo) and AJX (pax) contracts, clearly state the 10 days off a month, only 8 of which is guaranteed consecutive. The cargo side (AJV) contract recently changed on the CReW website. It used to state 10 days off consecutive, now it states 10 days off, of which 8 are guaranteed consecutive. Now, if you choose to "burn" vacation days, you can increase your days off, but of course you are left without a big vacation block of days off sometime later on in the year.
In my opinion, this is the best expat, commuting contract out there. However, it is important to clearly understand the commuting situation. You will be leaving the U.S. back to TYO two days prior to operation days. So, if you begin your work days on say, Saturday, you need to leave the U.S. mainland on a flight on Thursday. Both Thursday and Friday, commuting days, are still technically on your time off, which can effectively turn the guaranteed minimum 8 days off into effectively 6 days at home a month. If you are lucky to get the 10 days off consecutive, and add 2 days of "burned" vacation, you can make it 12 days consecutive. Still, they are completely clear that commuting takes place on your days off and that the 8 consecutive is all you are actually guaranteed by the contract.
CReW is very straightforward about all this, with no sugar-coating. You need to clearly know what you get into and they want you well informed. If you call them directly (number listed on website) they will answer any and all questions clearly. They offered me the contract, and I was truly honored by it, however the possibility of 6 days at home per month (without burning vacation) was out of the question for me. CReW specifically told me that "right now the practice is to give pilots the 10 consecutive days off, however, if operational necessity demands a change, the contract only guarantees 8 days off consecutive, both AJV and AJX"....
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