Singaporean self-sponsored CPL holders - where are you?
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Originally Posted by maddogcc
Long gone are the days of empty promises to go to the airlines from SFC as there is no more flying involved in Singapore.
Originally Posted by maddogcc
It will actually make more sense to hire flying instructors in Australia since there are an abundance of them in aussieland and it will be so much cheaper for the company.
In this world, there should be 3 flying schools associated with airlines that will recruit foreign F.Is. as their airline pilot. SFC (associated with SIA) is one of them.
Unfortunately, this is one of the biggest loop-holes that MOM has no control on this. It will be wonderful if somebody can email him <- click, for the sake of future Singaporean pilots employment.
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Originally Posted by maddogcc
Lets start with the first and most important department in any company. HR. The current HR manager is just one word. Incompetent. I believe, having worked in so many companies, the role of the HR is quite important in boosting the staff morale and also to take care of their welfare and benefits. However, this HR manager in SFC, is doing the exact opposite of what she is supposed to do. There are a multitude of problems in her department and i shall not dwell further. (e.g: Cutting employee benefits, delegating HER work to other departments, doing everything only to her own benefits) ... ...
With regards to the future you will have in SFC, it also boils down to the HR Manager. She is one of the longest serving employee in the company but does nothing to aid the employees to have any career advancement.
With regards to the future you will have in SFC, it also boils down to the HR Manager. She is one of the longest serving employee in the company but does nothing to aid the employees to have any career advancement.
Originally Posted by maddogcc
Many other ex-CFIs, ex-CIs, ex-instructors and staff/exstaff in the company, when you ask them, will definitely agree that if a new and more experienced HR Manager is being hired, the working conditions in SFC will be miles better. I repeat. MILES.
I even have a long kopi chat with J**** at a kopi shop years ago.
Originally Posted by maddogcc
For the current two aviation instructors that i mentioned in my previous post, they are basically screwed too. They were hired to be flying instructors in Singapore, but look, where are all the planes now? In Jandakot. So, they are basically CPL holders with minimal hours stuck as ground instructors in SFC and mind you, they are already 32. Stuck in limbo, as no plans are being made to even transfer them to the airlines as you would think that would be the most reasonable solution in order to make the sponsorship worth every penny. It is already a mistake to hire them, a decision made by the HR and ex-GM and now, making them redundant. Naturally the company would expect them to try and leave since they are not going to and are definitely not enjoying their time teaching cadets who are going to be ahead of them in every way. Hence, the position of the Trainee ground instructor.
It is a lucrative and cost-saving market for SFC to operate in Australia. Everything will be completed in Australia.
Originally Posted by maddogcc
Therefore, the current career opening for AGI trainees is so to hire younger instructors without giving them a license at all, so that the same mistake will not come up. This role is specifically to fill the role of a ground instructor and ONLY do ground instructing so as to keep him/her for a long long time.
To add on further, for SFC to sponsor Trainee Ground Instructor (typically to those who are not airman) to be a Pilot is totally impossible.
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Singapore Gov't pumped in billions of dollars to Australia, welcoming Aussies to work in Singapore, giving S'pore PR to Aussies & foreigners and etc. I wonder do Singaporeans get in-return such as
aviation job opportunity in Australia?!
Australia Gov't issue millions of WHV to other nationality but not Singapore Citizens despite Singapore Gov't giving uncountable goodies to Australia.
Hmm... ...
Somebody should email him (click here) this PPRuNe thread url link and kindly tell him what's going on.
Singapore Gov't pumped in billions of dollars to Australia, welcoming Aussies to work in Singapore, giving S'pore PR to Aussies & foreigners and etc. I wonder do Singaporeans get in-return such as
aviation job opportunity in Australia?!
Australia Gov't issue millions of WHV to other nationality but not Singapore Citizens despite Singapore Gov't giving uncountable goodies to Australia.
Hmm... ...
Somebody should email him (click here) this PPRuNe thread url link and kindly tell him what's going on.
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Looks like this thrend has taken an interesting turn.
I started writing on this thrend to provide some on-the-ground perspective for aspiring pilots. Having come across numerous news and social media outlets that typical give an unrealistic or skewed assessment of pilot demand in the region, I thought it would be good to offer a dose of reality here.
Let me start with the MPL program. It is, in my opinion, the perfect marriage between airline employers seeking to cut cost/reduce training time as a well as a step to lower the high entry barrier for self sponsored pilots. In other words, self sponsored pilots should jump on this opportunity and hook yourself up with an employer as the first strategy. Yes, it does come with the downside of being subjected to the mercy of the airline. And yes, it is clear that the airline can drop you anytime during the course of your training. However, that is, IMO, a reasonable risk vis-a-vis self sponsoring your way with no certainty of a job placement. Perhaps it might even help you secure a bank loan given that the bank is better assured that you are less likely to default on the loan.
Coming from the line, I can safely say that the number of employers you can find here is very very limited. Without an MPL, chances are, you will have to move overseas to secure a job. Yes, the demand for air travel is growing in this region with a bulging middle class blah blah. However, note that this growth stems mostly from developing countries mostly ie. Indonesia, Malaysia etc. Job openings for low hour CPL/ATPL is still and continues to be few and far between. Further, these positions are mostly restricted to locals only.
In Singapore, the rise of Tiger and most recently Scoot have created many opportunities for low hour pilots (I have a few friends that benefited). Those are the lucky ones. You have already miss this wave if you are an aspiring pilots looking to start training now. When the next wave of pilot demand will come from in the next 5 years in Singapore is anyone's guess. But, bear in mind, this: Singaporeans from the Qatar MPL have already began line flying in Doha. Chances are many will start returning to SG in the next 4-8 years (having clocked their hours/ attain command) to seek employment adding to the competition. Trust me, no one wants to stay in Doha for the long term.
Consider, wisely your options before committing yourself on to this endeavour. I have seen many Singaporeans who didn't see the brighter end from this profession.
@AviatorLeo, I share your suspicion. Haven't heard of any aspiring pilots who wouldn't try for the sponsored or MPL program before resorting to self-sponsoring.
I started writing on this thrend to provide some on-the-ground perspective for aspiring pilots. Having come across numerous news and social media outlets that typical give an unrealistic or skewed assessment of pilot demand in the region, I thought it would be good to offer a dose of reality here.
Let me start with the MPL program. It is, in my opinion, the perfect marriage between airline employers seeking to cut cost/reduce training time as a well as a step to lower the high entry barrier for self sponsored pilots. In other words, self sponsored pilots should jump on this opportunity and hook yourself up with an employer as the first strategy. Yes, it does come with the downside of being subjected to the mercy of the airline. And yes, it is clear that the airline can drop you anytime during the course of your training. However, that is, IMO, a reasonable risk vis-a-vis self sponsoring your way with no certainty of a job placement. Perhaps it might even help you secure a bank loan given that the bank is better assured that you are less likely to default on the loan.
Coming from the line, I can safely say that the number of employers you can find here is very very limited. Without an MPL, chances are, you will have to move overseas to secure a job. Yes, the demand for air travel is growing in this region with a bulging middle class blah blah. However, note that this growth stems mostly from developing countries mostly ie. Indonesia, Malaysia etc. Job openings for low hour CPL/ATPL is still and continues to be few and far between. Further, these positions are mostly restricted to locals only.
In Singapore, the rise of Tiger and most recently Scoot have created many opportunities for low hour pilots (I have a few friends that benefited). Those are the lucky ones. You have already miss this wave if you are an aspiring pilots looking to start training now. When the next wave of pilot demand will come from in the next 5 years in Singapore is anyone's guess. But, bear in mind, this: Singaporeans from the Qatar MPL have already began line flying in Doha. Chances are many will start returning to SG in the next 4-8 years (having clocked their hours/ attain command) to seek employment adding to the competition. Trust me, no one wants to stay in Doha for the long term.
Consider, wisely your options before committing yourself on to this endeavour. I have seen many Singaporeans who didn't see the brighter end from this profession.
@AviatorLeo, I share your suspicion. Haven't heard of any aspiring pilots who wouldn't try for the sponsored or MPL program before resorting to self-sponsoring.
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Flying.monkeyz, did you do your cpl in Australia or US?
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Hello. Currently I am thinking of pursuing my CPL from either Europe(Czech Republic) or Canada.
I would like work for Japan or Korea's airline after graduating. I have no intentation to work in singapore though.
Any opinions or suggestions for me to achieve my end goals?
I would like work for Japan or Korea's airline after graduating. I have no intentation to work in singapore though.
Any opinions or suggestions for me to achieve my end goals?
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Have very clear idea of how you would go from licensed to getting employed in Korea or Japan. If you are not of their nationality and no right to work, it'll be challenging.