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Old 12th Mar 2005, 05:11
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Hello Cav-not-ok You should know who I am yeah? Hahaha

Whatever he said is true... Captain Cockshaft is an arsehole. And to whoever that boy is who plans to join MFA.... DON'T! MFA is a money sucker which squeezes you dry without returning anything to you except for the license you carry which is still your own hardwork.

As a private student, you will be treated as 3rd class. Because it is runned by that Indian bastardo, MFA is also like India during the past where you find the 1st class and 3rd class people thingy. We'll need a Ghandi to change MFA which I think will never happen!!!

Cockshaft's henchman, P. the b0st0rd... Long story about him. He'll try to con everyone's ass by being the good guy. WARNING: He's more dangerous than any snakes in the world and should be placed in captivity!!! He gives extra worksheets specially for MAS cadets. I happened to possess a couple of it which even states "Worksheet No. X for MAS Batch X. To Be Returned To Library". Besides worksheets, P. refuses to teach certain topics of a subject to Private Students using his excuse of "Fark it, it doesn't appear in the exam!" and when it actually does appear in the exam, then he'll say "This is the first time it is appearing in the exam" repeatingly to every single private batch. The reason of him doing so is because he doesn't want any private students to score better results than the MAS cadets.

About the simulator as stated by Cav-Not-Ok, it's really in bad shape. If my grandpa is still alive, I'll bet he looks more fit than this Frasca 142 simulator. Many parts and levers are broken and not repaired by certified people. Instead, P. will use his so called "Magic Hands" to repair the poor old machine. And of course, **** happens eventually. Simulator Instructors are doing their job but what can you expect from them if the simulator isn't working? Cockshaft will find every excuse to say that the Simulator is working especially to new students and parents, but after some time of flight training, you'll find that you've just got kicked in de arse.



MFA would be a wonderfull academy if the 2 famous Indian Clowns never existed. The Ground and Flying Instructors are respectable people who tried their best to teach the fellow students even though they have many restrictions by both the clowns. Frankly, I remember MFA as an academy when Capt. Subra was around... He really took care of things. After he left MFA, this whole darn place is worst than a private kindergarten. And what happens next? We (Private Students) suffered...

My greatest advice, join LATC... It's new but growing. Principal's a good man. He may be strict but kind in heart. One thing for sure, he won't con your money. With the current management they have, I believe MFA will go down someday.

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Old 12th Mar 2005, 17:41
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if only u guys know,how much money exist in cockshove overseas account-that have been siphoned from MFA-??


n we MSIAN,still keeping him alive here??Shd be fired long ago-

The ACADEMY is a disgrace to all malaysiansss-myb a school in cocckshoves homeland looks better...
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Old 12th Mar 2005, 21:07
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7sex7 does have his point for sure... MFA is definitly a disgrace to Malaysians. Known as MALAYSIAN Flying Academy being runned by an Indian from INDIA. Maybe they should call it INDIAN Flying Academy if Cockshaft thinks he's that great here.

Cheers to you 7sex7!!!!
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Old 13th Mar 2005, 08:11
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I feel like I have to just say something in defense of MFA.

Now I can't really rebut all the points, but as with any institution there are good and bad points.

I can honestly say I never learned a single thing from the Hon. Gp. Capt, but the rest of the instructors are truly remarkable.

Capt P., the Chef Ground Instructor, is one of the most brilliant individuals I know, even though he's as nutty as a baboon. His knowledge of Met is top notch, in fact knowledge of all aviation subjects, and he never stops learning either. He can also write cursive upside down, but that's neither here nor there.

To address your comments, Lanun. you're complaining that he doesn't spoonfeed you as much as he spoonfeeds the MAS cadets, yes? Were you there to get an education or memorise exam papers? If you study and most importantly, understand what's being taught, it shouldn't matter WHAT'S coming out, should it?

All I'd like to say is that there ARE very dedicated, brilliant Indian National instructors, some whom I'll be indebted to for the rest of my life, some whom I'll never have the chance to thank again to my eternal regret. All your sweeping comments do no justice to those unsung heroes, even though all the information u carry around in your head and in your licence, you owe to them, though it may be only one hour and one lesson.

Have you forgotten your asian values? Or even basic human decency to at least respect your teachers?
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escusi mua monseur, par le vous ang lais?

hey willflyer, how ya doing good? btw were you a pvt or a mas student?

as brilliant as the almighty CGI may be he is still a lying snake. a one sided, 2 faced snake! blood F'ing right hand man.. SOB! should get a life and a new car.

as far as the great ground instructors go, SOME of are really great and useful. especially capt's: Pash, SS, ME, RPM, Le franchais man, to name a few. BUT, how many times do the private student get them for instructors? most of the time these group of super-instructors get assigned to the MAS batchs. private students almost always get the new instructors who are teaching them things they(d new instuctors) have never taught before. especially important subjects like NAV, MET, Perf A.

speaking of instructors i miss old man vicks. i hope he's doing fine. funny guy. the amount of times he misled my class is uncountable. hahaha.. but i still miss him.


thats my 150,00000 cents worth.
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mktong, thanks for the info.....i just received a letter from DCA that consists the same info, which you have given me. The only thing about the conversion's procedure is to fly M/E not less than 35 hours!!! Y 35 hours??? It is about RM35,000!!!!
I just dont understand the concept behind that. The reason I'm telling this is coz we already have IR n we basically know how to fly the plane. We just have to familiarise with the rules and the places...that's all!!! I don't think that will take 35 hours.
Anyway if that is what DCA instruct us to do than we have to do it, no matter what...am i right?!
Ok guys thanks for your attentions n back to the original topic, cheers
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hey man..

regarding the 35 hours, i think* i've heard of people doing their conversion in about 10.

try going over to dca and speaking to either capt yahaya or mr williams, and explaining to them and try to get a exemption.

if i'm not mistaken about 2 years ago i met a dude who was doing a conversion in 10 hours.. or something like that.. not 35. i dunno.. but try speaking to the above 2 guys mentioned and try to get some sort of exemption..

i suppose you guys have to go to MFA to do your conversion... thats RM1200x35 which is RM42000.. which you can consider as a donation to capt kokhaishoveit.

if you do go to MFA expect delays and shafting. hehehe
ADHOC students are really well known for getting a proper shafting from the priciple and flight ops.try kissing his ass and offering him yours. it might help. or for all you know but the time you get there he might treat you well after getting this bad publicity on PPrune. rumour has it he actually knows whats going on in here.

GOOD LUCK (you're gonna need it)




wait!.. i think i remember now. it was something about doing a few hours on the single engine then doing 10 on the twin.

may not seem like much, BUT it's real cost saver. RM42000 is the price of a car man! lets just he hope he doesn't give you his special compulsory meal bill. you can expect to be there for about 2~3 months just doing 35 hours on the twin. well i could be wrong.. but the place is as packed as a tight sardine can.


i think i should change my name to I_HATE_MFA, hehehe.. but that would be too general. damn, good luck anyway.

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Old 13th Mar 2005, 20:14
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Hey willflyer,

If you'd read my message clearly, I stated the 2 indian clowns very very very clearly. You should know who they are. I always loved the other ground instructors except for those two monkeys.

Just to let you know, it's not that I wanted to be spoonfed or anything. Frankly, I cleared my CA6 with own hardwork and not even by mugging coz I don't have any... In other words, not many people tend to share either. And that is why I actually resited them. CGI did not spoonfed any of us but instead mislead us to trust him. He REFUSED to teach us things which are coming out for the exams. What more, he insisted that it will never come out at all which eventually it does all the time for years... Maybe you should read my previous posting.

Btw willflyer, maybe we should meet up and chat over a beer session?

Thanks for backing me up cav-not-ok but that doesn't mean I'm buying you beer! Hahaha!

CHEERS TO VSM!!!
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Thanks Lanun, perhaps coffee since I don't drink (shocking, I know, a teetotaller pilot?!)

I did not mean to imply that you want to be spoonfed, it's just that certain comments may be construed in that way.

Yes I was an MAS cadet, and yes, I did see the double standards being practised but it was more towards giving more flying slots to the MAS cadets although at that time we had only 2 batches of private students and 3 of MAS at any one time.

I strongly doubt that the CGI would not teach a certain topic on purpose. After all, it is in the syllabus isn't it? I cannot recall any part of my ground studies that was purposely not taught, except maybe the old irrelevant stuff like Loran-C.

Has Wicks retired? I always had a soft spot for him although everyone generally held that his best years were far behind him. You can't fault an old man for trying, really, even though his style of teaching tends to be much more university-oriented (as in he comes in and expects everyone to have read the topic already and so is puzzled why nobody knows what he's talking about).
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Thanks man.....i'll try to do that, but I am just wondering whether those DCA chaps will ever consider my position and entertain me or not? Anyway no harm of trying, fingers crossed!
Lucky for me to get my license in NZ, which I would say the environment is the best and you will get plenty of attentions from your personal instructor and CFI as well. I would really recommend thic academy to whoever wants to pursue their flying career plus it is the cheapest place in the world(if i'm not mistaken) to get your license. Happy flying mates!!
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u did your training in Christchurch? flying the pa28?
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Devil la la la la...

dang... i should of went there.. that'll teach me to put my money in the 1st place i see..

abt dca, i guess if you manage to meet these dudes.. they'll be more than happy to have a lil' chit chat with ya.

and yo muhan, how much and where did you do your flying? and what did planes did you fly, how many hours? and what license did you get from there? lodging, food, costs? i wanna know.. for future references.. if the total is less than RM100K, i gonna jump in the gombak river.. hehehehe

*swims for life, for the fear of being eaten alive by d crocs is too much to handle*

me:Sir the Vis is 9999 according to the taf.
Sir: well then i must be getting blind.
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Christchurch

Yup, i did my training in International aviation academy in Chch, located at Chch international airport. I flew PA38 for my PPL(cost saving) and PA28(cherokee, acher, warrior and arrow) for CPL and IR in P68 and PA34. The whole course cost about NZD 50,000, which i think cheaper than anywhere in this world(of course depends on currency exchange rates, which was 2.2 when I went there).
About accomadation, never ever worry about that because the administrator will arrange everything for you if you request and cheapest place you could find would cost you around NZD 70 per week. And you can manage your accomodation rental by working part time in the weekend, and trust me they pay hell of a lot even for waiter. That is what I did, worked 4 days a week in a restaurant and my rental is paid! And the management is awesome, plus you can really progress very fast if you show the commitment in everything and manage to convince your instructor. I finished my CPL/MEIR in 11 months, but i will say myself lucky as well coz everything falls in the right place like i planned(not everything...mmost of them). Not to mention the system overthere are very simple, approchable and student friendly. Well that will be a brief of the academy, and strongly suggest to anyone who is planning to get his/ her license in a cheaper and more systematically arranged way.

If you need more info, just gimme a shout bros!!! Catch you'll later.
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muhan,
i was considering about that same flight school in christchurch too....but i made my last move to florida.
anyway...found which school to do your conversion yet?
i got mine in latc .... hope to see you around

make it into this way,
c 152 = usd 64 , dual usd 92
c172 and pa 28 (warior) = usd 79 , dual usd 108
pa 28R (arrow) = usd 86 , dual usd 112
pa 34 (seneca) = usd 185 only dual
sim 141 = usd 58 dual
ground = usd 28 for single engine , usd 35 for multi engine
check ride = usd 300 for each flight license or rating
housing = usd 300-350 monthly (varies when summer and winter)
big mac = usd 3
coke = usd 1 ++ in mcd
miller lite = usd 1 each can
gasoline= about usd 2 each gallon for grade premium
dominos pizza = usd 16++ for two large single topping pizzas
milk = usd 3.45 gallon
chinese buffet = usd 8 per pax
indian food = usd 15++ each dinner
and flight tickets from here to there = rm 2800 round trip

so how is it?

and another expensive RM70,000 for the conversion back in malaysia.....++++ the housing and ferry tickets to and back langkawi
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Holy crap!!! Seventy grand for the conversion, r u serrious or what. Is it a rough figure by ur estimation or the price you already paid to LATC?
Can we choose the school we want or it depends on the vacancy available at particular time.
I was thinking of doing self-study for my papers...do you think it is possible in MAL? Oh man, confusing and so desperado!!!
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i got the quotation from the school....
remember 35 hours dual in multi cost a bomb.
however the ground is much cheaper compared to other countries....
anyway... it's still a bomb to me
nothing comes cheap in malaysia.

try to marry a nz chicks....no more conversion then

my last concern is landing a job after shooting all my bullets.....

self study... possible? i have no idea...and im not going for it...
you can go any school you like...anyway only 2 schools in malaysia. so any school means not so many school for you to choose too ...AVAILABILITY wise... no comment.

i cant wait to fly again...
seneca 56825, runway 7 left cleared for take off, maintain runway heading,wind 030 gusting 50 knots.

cleared for take off 7 left, 070 ,seneca 56825!

seneca 56825 fly heading 030 and contact departure

030 and contact departure

daytona departure,seneca 56825 1000 ft climbing 3000 ft

56825 radar contact,follow the shoreline northbound,watch for traffic 12 o clock,altitute unknown.

daytona departure,shoreline northbound and looking for traffic,56825

seneca 56825 radar service terminated ,squak vfr

daytona departure, 1200

blahhhh blahhh...... wonderfull
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mktong, you need a beer!

CHEERS!!!
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Lanun....you too were a private student in MFA?
which year? and where are you flying now?
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story of the year award. (oscar winner)

the story is, one day, this cadet was having lunch in the academy cafeteria when he discoverd a cockroach in his fish (it was one of those whole kembung fishes) while he was eating. SO, naturally he made a big fuss and all that jazz.

Then the heroic hero of the day GP Capt (R) kokshoveitdownmytroat came to the rescue.

HE said, "it is not that the cafeteria is unhygenic. it is that the fish ate the cockroach at sea"

you can fool some of the people, all the time
and fool all the people some of the time,
BUT you can't fool all the people all the time
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It's not a story, because I was there and it was my batchmate who was the "lucky one". We were the most junior batch so initially we didn't want to make a big fuss of it but of course our seniors cheerfully took up the cause for us.

You think it's an isolated incident? (and I don't think it was cockroach in a fish, it was part of a cockroach fried amongst the chicken). The HM did try to say the chicken ate the cockroach, which made SO much more sense, doesn't it?

Have you ever seen fly eggs? Well I hadn't either until my batchmate turned and showed me some on his chicken too. Suffice to say, I never ate dinner ever again in the Cafeteria of Fried Household Pests. The seniors again had a field day and this time we joined them.

It wasn't all for naught, though. How do you think the process of refunding dinner allowance came about? Before this it wasn't even an option! We had to fight tooth and nail for it but it was worth it...a hundred bucks a month extra pocket money and the peace of mind from not eating various bugs.
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