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I watched an international TV news segment recently that showed the American Secretary of State ( Miss Con Rice ) being received by a high level delegation of Japanese politicians. The excessive bowing, smiles and deference were all there and I found myself wondering " what do these gentlemen really think of this politically powerfull woman ". These thoughts surfaced with the realisation that there was not one Japanese lady in sight, all men. Miss rice seemed almost isolated when seated at the massive conference table and surrounded by Japan's best.
If Japanese women are excluded from political life and denied a say in the running of their country then it follows that the narrowness of mind which is what we are discussing here is set to continue. In other words they (the Japanese) have not changed and it would appear they have no intention of changing.
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If Japanese women are excluded from political life and denied a say in the running of their country then it follows that the narrowness of mind which is what we are discussing here is set to continue. In other words they (the Japanese) have not changed and it would appear they have no intention of changing.
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You guys are incredible....
Stop talking about things you don't know about...
One of the leading contenders to succeed Koizumi in the LDP is a female.
We don't care how much you hate Japan...keep your speculations to yourself.
Stop talking about things you don't know about...
One of the leading contenders to succeed Koizumi in the LDP is a female.
We don't care how much you hate Japan...keep your speculations to yourself.
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she can read all the Kanji in the pi$$ poor pilot contracts you guys ended up signing.
Japan is a beautiful country, btw - I don't hate it at all!
However as one of the leading economic superpowers, and a high profile country, wouldn't you agree, SL that it needs to come into the 21st Century with its treatment of human beings, and set a good example?
I believe there might be some testing of its discriminatory practices in the not too distant future, that could bring it further into the limelight.
(All of the observations I cited above were experienced personally, by me, Stereolab
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Stereolab,
Would you mind telling me who is the lady in the LDP you are refering to that may take over from Prime Minister Koizumi. The only high profile lady in Japanese politics that I know of is Makiko Tanaka (daughter of previous Prime Minister ) but I seem to recall she fell from grace.
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Would you mind telling me who is the lady in the LDP you are refering to that may take over from Prime Minister Koizumi. The only high profile lady in Japanese politics that I know of is Makiko Tanaka (daughter of previous Prime Minister ) but I seem to recall she fell from grace.
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Careful PoD, it might be SLab's squeeze who is going to succeed Koizumi and then you'd be in it up to your ears.
I don't think SL will ever be convinced that the Japs are a disgraceful race, bigoted, discirminatory and a whole lot of other adjectives, as well as rissoles to work for as Ka tinM enunciated above.
His t00l has the better of him. He sounds like someone who is having his fiorst overseas adventure, learnt a few words of Japanese, had a local lovely drain him, and he thiknks he's one of them.
How sad. Get a grip of yerself son!!!
I don't think SL will ever be convinced that the Japs are a disgraceful race, bigoted, discirminatory and a whole lot of other adjectives, as well as rissoles to work for as Ka tinM enunciated above.
His t00l has the better of him. He sounds like someone who is having his fiorst overseas adventure, learnt a few words of Japanese, had a local lovely drain him, and he thiknks he's one of them.
How sad. Get a grip of yerself son!!!
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JapJok,
I remember Makiko Tanaka mainly because of her father Prime Minister Tanaka ( LDP ) who was mixed up in the All Nippon Airways scandal concerning the purchase of Lockheed Tristars. She also spoke excellent English and was not afraid to confront the die hard politicians on matters of policy. I can't recall why her star stopped shining but if she is back in politics then I suspect she is the lady Stereolab is referring too.There isn't any other that I know of and as Stereolab appears to be sulking and not saying then I'm not sure.
Prince of Dzun.
I remember Makiko Tanaka mainly because of her father Prime Minister Tanaka ( LDP ) who was mixed up in the All Nippon Airways scandal concerning the purchase of Lockheed Tristars. She also spoke excellent English and was not afraid to confront the die hard politicians on matters of policy. I can't recall why her star stopped shining but if she is back in politics then I suspect she is the lady Stereolab is referring too.There isn't any other that I know of and as Stereolab appears to be sulking and not saying then I'm not sure.
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wow, this thread has degenerated...surprised it hasn't been relocated to jet blast..
started with some anecdotes about life as an outsider in japan and has now turned into a real slag fest..
i dont think S-lab is sulking, he's probably had enough of you racists personally attacking him and his family.....
he is not so dumb: sounds like he's making an effort to "acclimatize" and would appear he is reasonably content with his lot in japan...
like he says, immigrant workers in most places tend to get exploited...you sign up at your own will...and its not north korea PoD, you can leave anytime you want (unless you are being detained....perhaps for extreme japan bashing)...
i think we've all realized PoD, japjok and foreign worker hate japan and its people....i dont understand why they stay...
and with his last couple of posts, it now appears kaptin m is moving toward the darkside...i figured you for a voice of moderation..having a "bad japan day"?
no-one forced you guys to travel to the other side of the world to work...from this website, there appears to be lots of jobs for pilots around the world...
so, if any of you are still there working in a country you hate and for people you despise after completing your first contract then you are either so incompetent at your jobs that you cannot gain employment elsewhere or you all secretly love life in japan but are afraid to come out...
STEREOLAB...dont let them get to you if you enjoy being there...perhaps you could organize a visit to these guys from the gentlemen in black vans with the loud music, who, with knowledge of their convictions, might persuade them that they would be better off elsewhere...
started with some anecdotes about life as an outsider in japan and has now turned into a real slag fest..
i dont think S-lab is sulking, he's probably had enough of you racists personally attacking him and his family.....
he is not so dumb: sounds like he's making an effort to "acclimatize" and would appear he is reasonably content with his lot in japan...
like he says, immigrant workers in most places tend to get exploited...you sign up at your own will...and its not north korea PoD, you can leave anytime you want (unless you are being detained....perhaps for extreme japan bashing)...
i think we've all realized PoD, japjok and foreign worker hate japan and its people....i dont understand why they stay...
and with his last couple of posts, it now appears kaptin m is moving toward the darkside...i figured you for a voice of moderation..having a "bad japan day"?
no-one forced you guys to travel to the other side of the world to work...from this website, there appears to be lots of jobs for pilots around the world...
so, if any of you are still there working in a country you hate and for people you despise after completing your first contract then you are either so incompetent at your jobs that you cannot gain employment elsewhere or you all secretly love life in japan but are afraid to come out...
STEREOLAB...dont let them get to you if you enjoy being there...perhaps you could organize a visit to these guys from the gentlemen in black vans with the loud music, who, with knowledge of their convictions, might persuade them that they would be better off elsewhere...
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Remote, well said - I've been thinking the same thing myself for sometime now.
This thread could be real fun and interesting, but it really does seem to have been hijacked.
It is easy to find fault and examples of undesirable past deeds with any culture and/or country. I'm an Aussie, and some of the things that have been going on here (in Aus) with respect to immigration issues has been absolutley shameful. Isn't there some saying about those who live in glass houses.....
I hope we can return to some fun and interesting observations about Japan - on the lighter side!
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This thread could be real fun and interesting, but it really does seem to have been hijacked.
It is easy to find fault and examples of undesirable past deeds with any culture and/or country. I'm an Aussie, and some of the things that have been going on here (in Aus) with respect to immigration issues has been absolutley shameful. Isn't there some saying about those who live in glass houses.....
I hope we can return to some fun and interesting observations about Japan - on the lighter side!
Fark
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Perhaps getting back nearer to the original thread, can anyone tell me anything about the Parc contract for 737 captains in Japan - accommodation, pay, tax, lifestyle, any chance of bringing the family and what are the issues that would create........
Many thanks in advance
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remote;
Your comments about some of us who contribute here being racist is a bit thick as Japan is by far the most established racist country on the face of the earth. I dont have to qualify that statement because anyone with the brains of a hen is aware of it. George Bernard Shaw once said "if you must say something silly then it's best to sing it ". Singing lessons are a must for you my friend.
Prince of Dzun.
Your comments about some of us who contribute here being racist is a bit thick as Japan is by far the most established racist country on the face of the earth. I dont have to qualify that statement because anyone with the brains of a hen is aware of it. George Bernard Shaw once said "if you must say something silly then it's best to sing it ". Singing lessons are a must for you my friend.
Prince of Dzun.
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"Thank you" for your input, remote.
Are you one of the agency managers per chance? Your comments seem very much slanted that way, vs those of another pilot considering work here (in Japan), or a casual observer.
Is it not better to allow people contemplating working wherever, to be given as much exposure to BOTH sides of the equation, as opposed to a glossy, sugar-coated candy apple rendition, that would have them resigning within a few months when faced with the real scenario?
From my personal point of view, I would hazard a guess that I was probably THE keenest applicant who has applied for the work here.
I was completely obsessed with Japan, and Japanese people - for one of my birthdays some 20 years ago, my youngest sister gave me a book titled "All Things Japanese" - such was my enthusiasm.
I visited here with my parents in 1969, and again in 1970, and studied karate (in Australia) under 2 Japanese teachers, from 1973 - one of whom I still maintain contact with (he's a chiropractor in Tokyo - his brother a monk, in Kumamoto).
I admired the Japanese, and the culture they possessed, prior to their exposure to the West.
They - then - were honourable, trustworthy, and truthful.
Unfortunately, this image was broken down, over a period of several years, mainly by one person in a position of power, who managed to prove those favourable impressions wrong.
Someone, whose actions have a DAILY effect on one's life, tends to shred the credibility of his fellow compatriots.
Of the original 24, only 9 remain - such was this man's effect.
And so remote, you make a comment such as "it now appears kaptin m is moving toward the darkside"
Kaptin M was pushed, cajoled, co-erced, and shoved over a period of 6 years, that FORCED him into a corner.
Fortunately, that "lying piece of #*!#" (a term coined by one of the pilots who resigned) has now been moved back into the mainstream - and my stress levels have dropped markedly!
It's true - he was only ONE person. But he was in a position where he affected ALL of us.
Strangely, the Nihonjin all think he is a "nice guy" - but it's widely known by them, that 100% of the gaijin thought otherwise.
So "racism" works both ways - here was a "man" (and I use that term only to define his gender) who used his position to (adversely) affect the personal lifestyles of non-Japanese, who had come to Japan in good faith, to complete a work contract they intended to honour, and that they expected to be honoured.
I feel that by PARC not having a fulltime, live-in contract manager here, many - if not all - of our "bitchings", weren't given sufficient credence (I know you're reading this Lock!), and were probably seen as "teething" problems.
The fun SHALL return.
I've got several newspaper articles earmarked...when I get the time to transcribe.
Are you one of the agency managers per chance? Your comments seem very much slanted that way, vs those of another pilot considering work here (in Japan), or a casual observer.
Is it not better to allow people contemplating working wherever, to be given as much exposure to BOTH sides of the equation, as opposed to a glossy, sugar-coated candy apple rendition, that would have them resigning within a few months when faced with the real scenario?
From my personal point of view, I would hazard a guess that I was probably THE keenest applicant who has applied for the work here.
I was completely obsessed with Japan, and Japanese people - for one of my birthdays some 20 years ago, my youngest sister gave me a book titled "All Things Japanese" - such was my enthusiasm.
I visited here with my parents in 1969, and again in 1970, and studied karate (in Australia) under 2 Japanese teachers, from 1973 - one of whom I still maintain contact with (he's a chiropractor in Tokyo - his brother a monk, in Kumamoto).
I admired the Japanese, and the culture they possessed, prior to their exposure to the West.
They - then - were honourable, trustworthy, and truthful.
Unfortunately, this image was broken down, over a period of several years, mainly by one person in a position of power, who managed to prove those favourable impressions wrong.
Someone, whose actions have a DAILY effect on one's life, tends to shred the credibility of his fellow compatriots.
Of the original 24, only 9 remain - such was this man's effect.
And so remote, you make a comment such as "it now appears kaptin m is moving toward the darkside"
Kaptin M was pushed, cajoled, co-erced, and shoved over a period of 6 years, that FORCED him into a corner.
Fortunately, that "lying piece of #*!#" (a term coined by one of the pilots who resigned) has now been moved back into the mainstream - and my stress levels have dropped markedly!
It's true - he was only ONE person. But he was in a position where he affected ALL of us.
Strangely, the Nihonjin all think he is a "nice guy" - but it's widely known by them, that 100% of the gaijin thought otherwise.
So "racism" works both ways - here was a "man" (and I use that term only to define his gender) who used his position to (adversely) affect the personal lifestyles of non-Japanese, who had come to Japan in good faith, to complete a work contract they intended to honour, and that they expected to be honoured.
I feel that by PARC not having a fulltime, live-in contract manager here, many - if not all - of our "bitchings", weren't given sufficient credence (I know you're reading this Lock!), and were probably seen as "teething" problems.
The fun SHALL return.
I've got several newspaper articles earmarked...when I get the time to transcribe.
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This thread is incredibly long and long-lived; the reason being that the main protagonists are actually in love with the country that you have adopted due to the fact that it pays more than anywhere else. Even those who have left for greener pastures (not).
You came for the money and now are involved in spending 50% of the time bagging Japan and 50% of the time expounding the joys of living in the most interesting country in the world.
OK Japan made some major blunders in WWII but they were a fascist state at the time as was Germany and Italy (I don't see this being dragged up in Pprune).
Yes Kouzumi needs to get the boot from politics as he purpetuates the WWII myth though the shrine visits, that will happen I hope soon due to pressure from China.
You came for the money and now are involved in spending 50% of the time bagging Japan and 50% of the time expounding the joys of living in the most interesting country in the world.
OK Japan made some major blunders in WWII but they were a fascist state at the time as was Germany and Italy (I don't see this being dragged up in Pprune).
Yes Kouzumi needs to get the boot from politics as he purpetuates the WWII myth though the shrine visits, that will happen I hope soon due to pressure from China.
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As promised, a couple of recent articles of interest.
ATTRACTING FOREIGN WORKERS KEY TO REVITALIZING JAPAN
Extracted from an article written in Japan’s Daily Yomiuri’s ECONOMIC FORUM, by Masaichi Nosaka
Comparisons of a rising Asia with an aging Japan have sparked concerns over the future of this country, which is on the decline.
It cannot be denied that Japan, which has reached the point where it will sink unless it can deal with an ageing society and declining population, pales in comparison with other Asian nations such as China, which is growing rapidly.
However, the Economy, Trade and Industry Minister has drawn up its 2005 White Paper on International trade, based on the belief that even if the nation’s situation appears gloomy, it will not immediately lose its vitality.
The ministry apparently has realized that revitalizing Japan requires forming win-win relationships with East Asian economies, including China (with a population of 1.3 billion).
Because of its aging society and declining population, a slowdown in Japan’s economic growth is inevitable.
To make up for a future labour shortage, the paper calls for measures to encourage skilled workers, experts, and researchers to stay in East Asia rather than going to Europe and the United States.
Japan also can help train workers in other East Asian countries and adopt an aggressive policy of bringing more of them here, a move that would benefit both sides.
To encourage foreign skilled workers to come to this country, Japan has to remove many barriers, such as simplifying the processing of working visas, and offering salaries linked to their abilities.
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And from an article on the other side of the page….
New database to monitor human trafficking
The Justice Ministry will create a database of information on human traffickers and victims’ accounts to help investigators find leads on offenders, sources said Monday.
The database is designed to identify methods used for human trafficking, the sources said. The Ministry intends to begin building the database this summer and have it ready for use as early as 2006, the sources added.
The move is aimed at stemming international criticism of Japan’s track record on human trafficking.
Information to be stored in the database will include victims’ accounts about how they were brought to Japan and forced to engage in prostitution here, and information on traffickers.
The ministry likely will question on a volunteer basis, illegal overstayers or other visa violators it suspects of being exploited, even if they do not consider themselves victims of human trafficking. It will include their data if it finds they were forced to work under poor conditions in industries such as the sex and hospitality industries.
Stricter penalties for human trafficking were introduced under revisions to the Penal Code passed by the Diet in its current session. The Government hopes to demonstrate a proactive stance by cracking down on human trafficking.
ATTRACTING FOREIGN WORKERS KEY TO REVITALIZING JAPAN
Extracted from an article written in Japan’s Daily Yomiuri’s ECONOMIC FORUM, by Masaichi Nosaka
Comparisons of a rising Asia with an aging Japan have sparked concerns over the future of this country, which is on the decline.
It cannot be denied that Japan, which has reached the point where it will sink unless it can deal with an ageing society and declining population, pales in comparison with other Asian nations such as China, which is growing rapidly.
However, the Economy, Trade and Industry Minister has drawn up its 2005 White Paper on International trade, based on the belief that even if the nation’s situation appears gloomy, it will not immediately lose its vitality.
The ministry apparently has realized that revitalizing Japan requires forming win-win relationships with East Asian economies, including China (with a population of 1.3 billion).
Because of its aging society and declining population, a slowdown in Japan’s economic growth is inevitable.
To make up for a future labour shortage, the paper calls for measures to encourage skilled workers, experts, and researchers to stay in East Asia rather than going to Europe and the United States.
Japan also can help train workers in other East Asian countries and adopt an aggressive policy of bringing more of them here, a move that would benefit both sides.
To encourage foreign skilled workers to come to this country, Japan has to remove many barriers, such as simplifying the processing of working visas, and offering salaries linked to their abilities.
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And from an article on the other side of the page….
New database to monitor human trafficking
The Justice Ministry will create a database of information on human traffickers and victims’ accounts to help investigators find leads on offenders, sources said Monday.
The database is designed to identify methods used for human trafficking, the sources said. The Ministry intends to begin building the database this summer and have it ready for use as early as 2006, the sources added.
The move is aimed at stemming international criticism of Japan’s track record on human trafficking.
Information to be stored in the database will include victims’ accounts about how they were brought to Japan and forced to engage in prostitution here, and information on traffickers.
The ministry likely will question on a volunteer basis, illegal overstayers or other visa violators it suspects of being exploited, even if they do not consider themselves victims of human trafficking. It will include their data if it finds they were forced to work under poor conditions in industries such as the sex and hospitality industries.
Stricter penalties for human trafficking were introduced under revisions to the Penal Code passed by the Diet in its current session. The Government hopes to demonstrate a proactive stance by cracking down on human trafficking.
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i agree, an enlightened view from both sides is necessary...just no need for personal attacks on other contributers with derogatory, lewd remarks about their families....
PoD....your quote..
"Your comments about some of us who contribute here being racist is a bit thick as Japan is by far the most established racist country on the face of the earth. I dont have to qualify that statement because anyone with the brains of a hen is aware of it"
not sure how you arrived at this one......how do you get to be "an established racist country"?....is there a league table that lists countries from the unestablished through moderately established to most?....or is this info only available in the hen house?
and if some of them are racist, is being a racist yourself going to help/enlighten? 2 wrongs dont make a right!!!.....constructive dialogue, not tit for tat..
there really is no need to end each of your posts with a jibe aimed at another contributer....its a bit juvenlie.....try to accept that we dont all subscribe to the same view point....a discussion/debate is not just stating your view over and over...in most of the world you have a choice (although perhaps in your favoured north korea it would be wise to keep that choice a secret)...
i think most of the people who read this forum are aware of japan's unsavoury past...and its modern day govt sanctioned racism/lack of respect for intl treaties/continued pursuit of territory/etc...most of this is available on any news channel (except maybe NHK).....well, if they weren't before you have made it abundantly clear for all of us...thank you......can we move on to "other aspects of life in japan"..
kaptin m
no, not agency related at all....i am an interested observer, been to japan several times, always found it fascinating, and seen both good and bad (as you do everywhere)....just interested, as many others are, to hear more..
i wasn't trying to sugar coat life in japan, just attempting to filter out the venomous anti japan vitriol espoused by some of the contributers...and wondering why they stay there....if i felt i was being f***ed over in my job, i wouldn't be bending over for more......perhaps it is as murdoch says...the money.....i thought any pilot worth his salt could earn a reasonable wage just about anywhere.....
you appear to have an admiration for japan and things japanese...its a shame one man has been spoiling it for you and your colleagues......reading through these threads, it seems lying ****s seem to be the norm in avaition management...but if someone is moved aside in japan, its usually the beginning of a long drop, so, perhaps the worst is over..
dont let him, or his like, shred the credibility of all your japanese colleagues/friends...
as we know, a lot of japanese still believe a non-japanese should not be allowed to set foot in japan....racist claptrap handed down through stories and the media.....but there are many who remain honest and honourable and who genuinely welcome outsiders....
i look forward to hearing more stories...
remote
i agree, an enlightened view from both sides is necessary...just no need for personal attacks on other contributers with derogatory, lewd remarks about their families....
PoD....your quote..
"Your comments about some of us who contribute here being racist is a bit thick as Japan is by far the most established racist country on the face of the earth. I dont have to qualify that statement because anyone with the brains of a hen is aware of it"
not sure how you arrived at this one......how do you get to be "an established racist country"?....is there a league table that lists countries from the unestablished through moderately established to most?....or is this info only available in the hen house?
and if some of them are racist, is being a racist yourself going to help/enlighten? 2 wrongs dont make a right!!!.....constructive dialogue, not tit for tat..
there really is no need to end each of your posts with a jibe aimed at another contributer....its a bit juvenlie.....try to accept that we dont all subscribe to the same view point....a discussion/debate is not just stating your view over and over...in most of the world you have a choice (although perhaps in your favoured north korea it would be wise to keep that choice a secret)...
i think most of the people who read this forum are aware of japan's unsavoury past...and its modern day govt sanctioned racism/lack of respect for intl treaties/continued pursuit of territory/etc...most of this is available on any news channel (except maybe NHK).....well, if they weren't before you have made it abundantly clear for all of us...thank you......can we move on to "other aspects of life in japan"..
kaptin m
no, not agency related at all....i am an interested observer, been to japan several times, always found it fascinating, and seen both good and bad (as you do everywhere)....just interested, as many others are, to hear more..
i wasn't trying to sugar coat life in japan, just attempting to filter out the venomous anti japan vitriol espoused by some of the contributers...and wondering why they stay there....if i felt i was being f***ed over in my job, i wouldn't be bending over for more......perhaps it is as murdoch says...the money.....i thought any pilot worth his salt could earn a reasonable wage just about anywhere.....
you appear to have an admiration for japan and things japanese...its a shame one man has been spoiling it for you and your colleagues......reading through these threads, it seems lying ****s seem to be the norm in avaition management...but if someone is moved aside in japan, its usually the beginning of a long drop, so, perhaps the worst is over..
dont let him, or his like, shred the credibility of all your japanese colleagues/friends...
as we know, a lot of japanese still believe a non-japanese should not be allowed to set foot in japan....racist claptrap handed down through stories and the media.....but there are many who remain honest and honourable and who genuinely welcome outsiders....
i look forward to hearing more stories...
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Kaptain M,
That is the funniest thing I ever heard about the eye-ron.
The funny thing is...........how many of those who read it, are now contemplating the idea to try it ?!?!?
That is the funniest thing I ever heard about the eye-ron.
The funny thing is...........how many of those who read it, are now contemplating the idea to try it ?!?!?
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remote;
There is a story in todays Japan Today in the letters and comments section that refers to a certain hotel in Okinawa that displays a sign at its entrance that reads " forbid foreign males to enter " !!! Just a touch racist wouldn't you say.?
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There is a story in todays Japan Today in the letters and comments section that refers to a certain hotel in Okinawa that displays a sign at its entrance that reads " forbid foreign males to enter " !!! Just a touch racist wouldn't you say.?
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no, that's sexist....obviously foreign females are allowed entry..
i haven't argued that many japanese are not racist...just that being racist toward them help/doesn't solve anything....
before appartheid ended there was a sign in karachi airport that read "no dogs or south africans"..... i suppose the dogs still cant get in...
remote
no, that's sexist....obviously foreign females are allowed entry..
i haven't argued that many japanese are not racist...just that being racist toward them help/doesn't solve anything....
before appartheid ended there was a sign in karachi airport that read "no dogs or south africans"..... i suppose the dogs still cant get in...
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It qualifies as both in my opinion.
But what developing countries haven't gone through this.
How about the United States in the 1960's - "no blacks/whites only".
Japan might be considered technologically well advanced, but socially many of the population are still developing to accept 20th century ideas.
For all their apparent politeness, and "irrashaimase", many are, in my opinion, social retards, unable to communicate effectively at a personal level.
But that's only my opinion.
But what developing countries haven't gone through this.
How about the United States in the 1960's - "no blacks/whites only".
Japan might be considered technologically well advanced, but socially many of the population are still developing to accept 20th century ideas.
For all their apparent politeness, and "irrashaimase", many are, in my opinion, social retards, unable to communicate effectively at a personal level.
But that's only my opinion.
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Foreign Worker, I agree.
Remote, this is the 21st (Twenty-first) century; we're five years into it.
What I said earlier was that CIVILIZED countries have laws that serve to firstly dissuade, and then punish, acts of discrimination and racial vilification.
I can't make it any simpler than that.
No doubt there are still some countries that practise those vile things, and I suppose it is just another of the paradoxes of Japan...what you see is not what you get.
Japan is not a progressive country; it is still wallowing in the mid 1900's adn earlier on many issues.
It's a spent force technologically and intellectually (as that intellect relates to a manufacturing power). As soon as another country (China, Korea, Vietnam for example) acquired the ability to copy, but at a lower cost, the end was in sight for Japan.
Remote, this is the 21st (Twenty-first) century; we're five years into it.
What I said earlier was that CIVILIZED countries have laws that serve to firstly dissuade, and then punish, acts of discrimination and racial vilification.
I can't make it any simpler than that.
No doubt there are still some countries that practise those vile things, and I suppose it is just another of the paradoxes of Japan...what you see is not what you get.
Japan is not a progressive country; it is still wallowing in the mid 1900's adn earlier on many issues.
It's a spent force technologically and intellectually (as that intellect relates to a manufacturing power). As soon as another country (China, Korea, Vietnam for example) acquired the ability to copy, but at a lower cost, the end was in sight for Japan.
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Tokyo News Report 26 July 2005.
" Japan's top government spokesman reiterated Monday that the country will take up North Korea's past abductions of Japanese citizenes during six-party talks due to start in Beijing "
Upset the North Koreans over perceived abductions and sink the nuclear disarmament talks. Words fail me!.
Prince of Dzun.
" Japan's top government spokesman reiterated Monday that the country will take up North Korea's past abductions of Japanese citizenes during six-party talks due to start in Beijing "
Upset the North Koreans over perceived abductions and sink the nuclear disarmament talks. Words fail me!.
Prince of Dzun.