KA employ HK ID holders on local contracts. They employ non-HK ID holders on expat contracts that include things like housing and education allowances, etc.

If they were to ever open up the cadet or PQC programs to non-HK ID holders then they would not be able to offer the expat extras to any new applicant again, whether that applicant was experienced or not, as it would be discrimination. That is what is happening at CX at the moment.

If you have a HK ID card, go for KA. You will get your training paid for, without a bond (ie no 'forgivable' loan) and you will fly from your first day in the RH seat, gaining those precious hours. If you're not happy with the contract after a few years, leave.

Hi everyone!

I have got a Frozen ATPL from UK and got around 220 hours. Do you think i can apply the Pre-Qualified Cadet? I am hong Kong citizen btw~

cheers:ok:

ikcmms, you can apply; but they will not process your application until you have 250TT, 100CMD, 10hrs Night, 5hrs night cmd. It's a requirement for the HKCAD CPL conversion terms.

there are some requirement for X-country flying too I believe :cool:

No ball rolling until you can show the following in your logbook. (From CAD 54.)

1.6.

1.6.1. The minimum flying experience required for the issue of a Hong Kong
CPL(A) is 250 hours. This may be reduced to 200 hours where the applicant
has completed an integrated course of flight and ground training approved by
the Hong Kong CAD. These minimum hour requirements are to include the
following flying hours obtained in aeroplanes:-

(a) 100 hours as PIC or PIC U/S, of which, 70 hours must be as PIC. In
the case of a Hong Kong CAD approved CPL/IR training, such hours
can be reduced to 90 hours as PIC of which 20 hours can be SPIC;

(b) 35 hours cross-country flying as PIC, PIC U/S or SPIC of which 30
hours must be PIC. This cross-country flying should include a flight
as PIC on a route of 300 nm completed in a single day, in the course of
which the aeroplane landed and came to rest at not less than two
intermediate and different aerodromes;

(c) 10 hours night flying as PIC, PIC U/S, SPIC or P U/T, of which five
hours must be as PIC. This night flying must include 10 take-offs and
10 landings without assistance, and two cross-country flights as PIC or
PIC U/S or SPIC terminating at an aerodrome a minimum distance of
65 nm from the point of departure. It must also include three hours
night dual of which one hour must be navigation training; and

(d) 10 hours instrument flying as P U/T in aeroplanes.
1.6.2. The remainder may comprise flight time as either PIC, PIC U/S, SPIC or P U/T
counted in full, or P2 counted at half rate.

1.6.3. SPIC (Student Pilot-in-command) refers to the flight time obtained in a Hong
Kong CAD approved CPL/IR training during which the flight instructor on
board the aircraft will only observe the student acting as pilot-in-command

and must not influence or control the flight of the aircraft.

The KA requirements states you must have a HK Permanent ID card, but what if you only have a HK ID card which is not permanent?

Look to see what letters you have or whether you fall into one of these categories.

If no letter 'A', then no apply.

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See also: Right of abode in Hong Kong

Permanent HKID holders have the Right of Abode (Chinese: 居留權) in Hong Kong. Under the Basic Law of Hong Kong, a person who belongs to one of the following categories is a permanent resident of the HKSAR with right of abode privileges:

• (a) Chinese citizen born in Hong Kong before or after the establishment of the HKSAR
• (b) Chinese citizen who has ordinarily resided in Hong Kong for a continuous period of not less than seven years before or after the establishment of the HKSAR.
• (c) Person of Chinese nationality born outside Hong Kong before or after the establishment of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region to a parent who, at the time of birth of that person, was a Chinese citizen falling within category (a) or (b).
• (d) Person not of Chinese nationality who has entered Hong Kong with a valid travel document, has ordinarily resided in Hong Kong for a continuous period of not less than seven years and has taken Hong Kong as his place of permanent residence before or after the establishment of the HKSAR.
• (e) Person under 21 years of age born in Hong Kong to a parent who is a permanent resident of the HKSAR in category (d) before or after the establishment of the HKSAR if at the time of his birth or at any later time before he attains 21 years of age, one of his parents has the ROA in Hong Kong.
• (f) Person other than those residents in categories (a) to (e), who, before the establishment of the HKSAR, had the ROA in Hong Kong only.

***- holder aged 18 or above, and is eligible for a HK Re-entry Permit

* - holder aged between 11 and 17, and is eligible for a HK Re-Entry permit

A- RIGht of abode
R- right to Land
U- unconditional stay
C- conditional stay
M- Male
F- Female
Z- born in HK
X- born in mainland CHina
W- born in Macao
O- born in OTHER countries/regions

Y- date of birth has been verified by the Immigration Dept by virtue of the holder's passport or birth certificate

B- the holder's registrated Date of birth, Place of birth, or Gender has been altered after the holder's first registration of such details with the HK Immigration Dept

H1/K2/S1 etc.- Immigration office at which the HKID card was issued

L- the holder has previously lost the HKID card
(e.g. L1- the person has lost the ID card ONCE
L2- the person has lost it TWICE

Has anyone tried applying without an ATPL and gotten an interview?

Anyone here still in the interview process?:ok:

Thats means I cannot apply since I only have a normal HKID card and not the HK permanent ID card.

But I would like to know how do the foreigners get in without a permanent ID card?

is anyone currently in the interview process or has received an invitation to the interview?

my frds just had interview with them and didnt go though bcoz he doesnt have PERMANENT ID.... what a joke... i am doing my hours building in the USA and hopefully will get my interview end of next months....

I have just got the reply from KA and will have my initial on the 3/5! Anyone doing on the same day??

Good luck to you! :ok:

Mate, good luck!

Please share your interview experience with us in the future. A private message will be great :ok:. How long had you waited for an interview date after getting all the required hours?

No pro! Thx!!

Regarding the PQC interview process...

-Does it have a math component to it? I've only heard that the regular cadet interview has one.
-If so, what stage/day is it on?

PQC initial interview
 

Juz got an invitation from dragonair I will be doing my initial interview on the 4th of May. Anyone here doing the same?

Anyone here, who is not a HK resident (ID holder) and has got an invitation????

has anyone got a email to apply for the pre qualified cadet program.
Just sent them a email and keep getting a email back saying email address is not valid.

Look good at the e-mailadress on the web: recruit.cockpit@drgaonair.com

Try: recruit.cockpit@dragonair.com

If that doesn't work, I thought that the recruitment team of KA had a similar adress as the recruitment e-mailadress from CX..