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wfscmgbh 22nd Nov 2013 06:26

hi, sorry to interrupt. i was wondering if anyone is having their stage 2 of ab initio on coming 14 jan? (can't find anyone on this day, solo here.);)

Anthony_27 22nd Nov 2013 12:22

wfscmgbh
 
wfscmgbh

when did you have your first interview ?

Launchpadd 22nd Nov 2013 14:26

Ah that's what I was afraid of, thanks for the info.

Cathay Cadet Pilot 23rd Nov 2013 15:32

Anyone going to have Stage 2 assessment on 13 Jan? Maybe we can get prepared tgt :)
 
Anyone going to have Stage 2 assessment on 13 Jan 2014? Maybe we can get prepared tgt :)

Arthur_Grob13 26th Nov 2013 02:46

CPL & ATPL books
 
Hi all, I would like to ask for some recommendations on good reference books for CPL & ATPL. I heard someone said FTA is using Jeppesen textbooks, is that real?

Xcel 28th Nov 2013 22:30

Cx
 
Hi cpt underpants,
Noticed your replies for some time on the cx wannabes. Recently you posted about the low numbers required for the 2014/15 training program. I've been on hold for the last two years. To fill your curiosity on icadet experience myself and a mate also on hold have 4000+ and 2000+ turboprop 1000+jet rpt and still losing out to ab initio cadets. Not just cx either. Industry wide companies taking no experience guys who pay their endos etc over low to mid level experience guys. Suppose 5-6 years you'd have the same experience but why not start higher up the tree if you have the choice... Anyway tangent/rant over.. What was your source? Lol

Cpt. Underpants 29th Nov 2013 04:52

PM for you

Isaac Yu 29th Nov 2013 06:30

ATPL advice
 
Hi everyone,
i have read from some websites that cx cadet pilot programme requires some sort of ATPL MCQ test. Is this true for those who went through or is this for the transition entry programme? Will the technical interview also contain such questions? (I am a bit concerned about signing up because I don't have much ATPL knowledge, after all the cadet pilot programme is for those who don't have flying experience)

immune 30th Nov 2013 01:20

anyone awaiting flight grading?

fly international 2nd Dec 2013 06:15

Waiting time for CX application
 
hi guys
just wonder how long did you wait for getting called for 1st CPP interview? :confused:

Kips 3rd Dec 2013 00:59

Hey Loeks,

Niks van die comment aantrekken hoor, goede en legitieme vraag. Momenteel leiden ze enkel mensen op met de identiteit van dit land; ook al heb je vorige rondes overleefd, het wordt/is inderdaad wachten geblazen. De situatie op de arbeidsmarkt kan dit beleid altijd weer veranderen, dus wanhoop niet. Sterkte.

ryan2124 3rd Dec 2013 15:57

2 weeks ago I submitted my online application for Cathay Pacific CPP

4 days later they sent me an invitation to the Initial selection

I have accepted the test schedule, they have made a confirmation and sent me the JKI booklet and I have been studying

Everything seems alright, but yesterday they told me I am not shortlisted and will not proceed with my application.

Does anyone here experienced this?

I have no idea what happened and how to fix it. If I was rejected after the tests or interview then I know what I did wrong and what to do. All I could do is send an email to ask for a reason, but they don't seem to reply these emails.

ryan2124 3rd Dec 2013 23:34

extra notes:
I was born in hong kong, I am living in hong kong, I am a permanent resident
no record of criminal offense, about to graduate from University

CodyBlade 4th Dec 2013 08:32

What type of id you have? it has a 'C' alphabet on it?

What is your ethnic group?

ryan2124 5th Dec 2013 04:10

I'm a Chinese Hong Konger with 3* on my ID card and have a HKSAR passport, I am just the most ordinary Hong Konger.

One possibility of the rejection might be my education, I am 1 semester away from my university graduation. Would they finally decided I'm not qualified because of this? But I see many people applied during their first/second year in University and are still shortlisted. I guess if they invited me then reject me, the reason behind should be some solid and factual reason, not my enthusiasm.....

Andrew_W 5th Dec 2013 11:35

I don't want to make a guess on the reason, but I'm sure that they won't reject your application because you are just 1 semester away. The whole selection process takes months to complete. By the time when you get your final offer you should already have finished your uni.

ryan2124 5th Dec 2013 13:02

Just want to see if it happened to anyone here, because Cathay itself will never reveal the reason.
I'm going to retry anyway. My preparations will not be wasted.

wongsuzie 5th Dec 2013 13:32

I am a bit confused -you should be a HK citizen not a 'PR' as you stated in your earlier post.

greatbattle 6th Dec 2013 08:41

He is a Permanent Resident for sure. No question about it. The real question is Why they changed their mind. You know, pulling someone in then pushing him away is bizarre. It's a huge bumout, specially when you didn't do anything wrong. Ryan2124, I would suggest you to talk to the assistant recruitment manager directly. She is nice and helpful. I'm sure she can give you a hand in this regard. I can give you the extension if you want to. Sorry to hear that anywayz!

ryan2124 6th Dec 2013 16:31

I have tried to ask to an explanation but they just ask me to figure it out by myself, as expected, and I know this is what I have to do
Just it could be better if I can get some ideas from them because it is really an unusual situation

CodyBlade 7th Dec 2013 02:48

Born in HK
Ethnic Chinese
SAR Passport
*** on ID

Yet he classifies himself a 'PR'.

Maybe HR is puzzled?

Massey1Bravo 7th Dec 2013 08:36

Do HK citizens (HKPID) with a CPL + MEIR still get a look in for AE?

Also is 29 too old to be shortlisted? I got myself a business degree before getting into aviation.

Thanks in advance. :)

greatbattle 7th Dec 2013 10:57

You know that AE and TT are currently put on hold don't you? so even if you have a HKPID, CPL & MEIR, they'll still make you sign on the Ab-initio course or ask you to wait for the grand reopening. It's one way or the other.
Nah. You are not too old for them. Just give it a shot and see how it goes. FYI, a friend of mine recently got out of FTA. He is a 33 year old married man.

pilotchute 10th Dec 2013 10:33

Here is the proof
 
Code:

As 2013 is quickly coming to an end we would like to take this opportunity to update you on the current and projected Advanced Entry opportunities with Cathay Pacific Airways.

As indicated in previous correspondence the Advanced Entry selection process has been placed on hold. We recently received the training plan outlining the crew requirement for next year and it has been decided by Management that the focus will remain on the Cadet Pilot stream and therefore there will be no Advanced Entry selection process scheduled for the foreseeable future.

I understand this may come as a disappointment however, if we are in a position to recommence the Advanced Entry selection process, we will endeavour to contact you.  In such a case, further assessment will be required.

Should you remain interested in a Cathay Pacific Second Officer opportunity kindly keep us up-dated with your career progression including significant changes to your personal and/or professional details via the careers link at Welcome to Cathay Pacific.

We wish you all the best.

Yours sincerely,


Paula Rousseau

Assistant Manager Flight Crew Recruitment

Telephone: +852-2747-8248

Decided by "Management" or the HK Immigration Dept?

If "Management" think that they can fill all the future pilot requirements by hiring Ab Initio Cadets only they will be in for a rude shock. A post in the Fragrant Harbour forum painted a picture of SO's struggling to make the standard for promotion to JFO and the training dept being stretched to the limit trying to do it.

I would predict that in the not to distant future CX may be forced to re open the DEFO stream to fill some gaping holes in experience levels. I wonder what sort of package will be on offer?

tkjpop 10th Dec 2013 12:46

Per the company's website, both AE and TT have been closed! This is very frustrating indeed. I am a HK citizen with a permanent ID card, and have been trying to get into the CX cadet programme since year 2000. (what other choice, really). Fast forward 13 years, leaving my family and hometown behind most of the time, I now have over 2,600tt, 500 turbine PIC (turboprop), ATP, A320 TR. zero jet time:ugh: so even if DEFO were to re-open I won't be eligible.

What other choices do I have besides applying as ab initio cadet? KA? HKA? Jetstar HK? I have looked into all the biz jet operators here (Metrojet, Jet Aviation, HK Jet, TAG, BAA, Sinojet, Asiajet, Vistajet, Netjets) but they won't entertain me without time-on-type. I guess the easiest would be to get a green card, as you will be almost guaranteed a RHS in an airliner nowadays with 1,500tt. or goto China and sign a 50-year bond :D

CodyBlade 11th Dec 2013 06:21

Quote from AAstock.com:

CATHAY PAC AIR (00293.HK) -0.340 (2.078%) Short selling $453.24K; Ratio 0.686% and Dragonair announced that the Group is planning to hire 2200 staff next year, including about 1,200 flight attendants and 120 pilots.

giuliohck 11th Dec 2013 21:27

Background: I have HKPID, 0hrs, studying in Canada, joined ICF program before and I did put someone for the Cathay Pacific reference.

I submitted the CPP application few weeks ago, I realized that there were few special characters appeared at the end of my family name like this: XX***. I could not update my application because of that reason, I tried to email Cathay and asked for the reason, the recruitment department replied me with this

Thank you for your enquiry and interest in the Cadet Pilot Programme.

Your application is on our list of applications to be processed. We will keep you informed of the application status after it is confirmed.

Should you not hear from us in 4 weeks, please contact us again by return email.


Best regards,
Flight Crew Recruitment
Cathay Pacific Airways
I'm 200% sure I did not type/ see those *** when I create/submit the application. Did anyone experience this before? My friend submitted the application a month earlier than me, he has HKPID and did put someone for CX reference as well, but he did not get those special characters.

Thanks for the help!

jumpseatCAPT 12th Dec 2013 11:21

giuliohck
 
Just relax, they already replied to you that your app is being processed. No point freaking out due to some glitch in their new HR system.

They don't tell you what's going on with the *** probably because they don't know either, OR they don't need to explain to you if its an issue with their computer system.. so chill.

J

Cpt. Underpants 12th Dec 2013 12:30

No, it's a device designed to determine schizophrenia. How you publicly react to those three asterisks near your name will definitely impact on whether or not you're considered...

Stay calm and...

WORRY!!













For Pete's sake, chill.

giuliohck 12th Dec 2013 21:09

Thanks for explaining to me.

I was kinda worry at the beginning because I could not update my application at all after I submitted it, but most of my friends can update it after submission. I guess I need to email the recruitment department if I need to make any changes later on.

schweizer2 12th Dec 2013 21:12

Oh dear.....

You have to wait more then a couple weeks to get a reply from them? Bummer, what will you ever do..... If you want we can swap places, I don't think I will ever be allowed to re-apply, perhaps this way you will not need to play the waiting game and I can play it again.

But on a serious note,
Just continue as normal and when the time comes they will contact you. You have submitted your application so try not think about it too much and relax a bit.

cchoi 14th Dec 2013 15:12

Stage 1a interview
 
Hi guys,

Received an email yesterday inviting me to attend the stage 1a interview on 7/1/14 in Hong Kong after waiting for over 1.5 years. As usual it states that results of stage 1a will be received within two weeks. But strangely the email states that stage 1b will be conducted on the 9/1/14. Does anyone have the same issue?

I currently live in Australia, just wondering do all applicants fly back to Hong Kong for an interview? Also does anyone know how long it takes to progress to stage 2, will I need to fly back on numerous occasions?

Good luck to everyone!

giuliohck 14th Dec 2013 21:27

I received an email from CX for stage 1A on 7Jan13 as well. You will know your 1A result on the same day or probably the next day. I think I will be leaving Toronto in the last week of Dec 2013 even though I'm still trying to book the tickets. For the waiting time between stage 1b-stage 2, my friend waited for 2 months after he finished stage 1b (it may vary!). I probably will fly back to Toronto and do some packing after ICAO english test + medical. Other than that, I will stay in HK for most of the time.

Looking forward to see you in HK!

DrakeSkyle 14th Dec 2013 23:12

It usually takes 2 months between 1B and Stage 2&3. After that, it takes a few more weeks to get info on flight grading. If you get to Stage 2 you will have to pay for your tickets and accommodation as they are not providing it anymore.

Dreamlinerwannabe 19th Dec 2013 02:45

Anyone going for flight grading in Jan or Feb?

DrakeSkyle 19th Dec 2013 03:06

@Dreamlinerwannabe: Check your PMs.

Relampap 20th Dec 2013 03:18

Stage 2
 
Anyone going to have stage 2 in jan 2014, would like to meet up for some practices, please PM or let me know. Thx

Relampap 20th Dec 2013 03:43

Regarding waiting time for 1a/1b, personally, I got the invite in 2 day after the application, got the 1a result in the next day and scheduled for 1b. Got the 1b result after 1 week. Then know the Stage 2 scheduled after 2-3 weeks. And now I am going to have stage 2 next month. And I know they will tell u whether you pass stage 2 or not in the same day!!
My feeling is that they need more ppls recently so the waiting time ( both success/reject time) is much much shorter. Good luck to all!

cchoi 20th Dec 2013 09:19

What to wear?
 
Hi guys,

Just wanted to ask what you will or have worn to the stage 1 test/interview?
Is it just smart casual or formal i.e. suit and tie? Any ideas?

Thankyou!

dolpinsky 20th Dec 2013 13:57

looks like 2014 would be another golden year to get in
too bad i'm not yet ready


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