Advanced Entry.
 

I take this to mean that the people you are referring to as having no less than 1000 hours were Adavnced Entry types. Was that the case? How about multi time in 2000 Kg or higher? Glass? The other factor concerning experience levels is FAR part 135 or 121, or similar according to each countries standard.

Was the standard higher than stated Advanced Entry standards? I mean other than total flight hours.

Japandwell,

The ones with me had experience on Dash8, Cheiftan and a few more. Some had done part 135 ops and some not. Two had been instructors and all were over 25 years old bar one. Yes we were all AE as none of us had an ATP licence yet.

I don't really think they care what you flew before, just if you will fit in and be able to cope with the training.

Is that what you mean?

Pilotchute, You did answer my question. I have more than the stated minimums and thought your post implied that people are accepted with higher qualifications than the minimum for each program. The fact that I have nearly ATP minimums but no time in AC over 2,000 Kg. puts me in a place between AE and TT.
It is good to know that people with higher than stated minimums for the AE may still be accepted for the program.

If you don't have a HONG KONG PERMANENT ID CARD, no amount of experience will get you in the door for the foreseeable future (on ANY program - ab initio, AE or TT). Clear enough?

HKPID
 

Hey mods put this up as a stickie it will save lots of bandwidth.

No more AE?
 

I am reading between the lines on your response. I take it there are no more AE classes or even TT courses planned.

I have been gathering this throughout the forums. There is some information that contradicts that theory though. There was a post saying that the ab initio courses are taking too long, and that may be used as an excuse to start AE courses again. AE pilots don't require HKID, correct?

Anyway, I am still tossing this around. I'll be leaving my employer in a few months on a type of "early out program", and will get back to instructing full time. There are a few ab initio programs here in the US that hire FAA Instructors, and offer full time salaries. I'm glad I came back to the US!

If AE and TT does reopen, will preference be given to non-permanent HKID holders on those courses? Or were previous courses and the current pool of people waiting for start dates a mix of everyone?

Why would preference be given to NON ID holders? :ugh::ugh::ugh:

Hope this helps:

If you don't have a HONG KONG PERMANENT ID CARD, no amount of experience will get you in the door for the foreseeable future (on ANY program - ab initio, AE or TT). Clear enough?


Thanks to Capt. Underpants, made my copy pasting easy.

Just one more time:

If you don't have a HONG KONG PERMANENT ID CARD, no amount of experience will get you in the door for the foreseeable future (on ANY program - ab initio, AE or TT). Clear enough?

Oops should have been more clear, I meant the non-permanent version of the HKID.

As in if you are living in Hong Kong already with a HKID, but just not a HKPID.

Priority is only for permanent hkid holders. This is what i got told.

Good grief! little boys, get yourself organised and avail yourself of the RELEVANT INFORMATION.

HKID Beaten to Death
 

It's quite simple really. Hope this clears it up for you all.

http://www.immd.gov.hk/pdforms/rop133.pdf
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) | Immigration Department
GovHK: Identity Cards and Right of Abode

On the 2 letter code beneath your date of birth, the first letter, if it is anything but 'A' or 'R', you do not have the right to live, work, or study in Hong Kong without a valid visa.

To be legally employed in HK, and as far as the Immigration Dept. is concerned, 'A' (Right of Abode) and 'R' (Right to Land) are virtually identical. The only difference being, persons holding a 'R' code are not eligible to vote and can be deported if convicted of a serious crime.

Most expat folks first coming to HK on the CX ticket are all given a 'C' code on their HKIDs. Which means 'Conditional Stay' and if they lose employment with CX, they have a specific time limit to gather all their stuff and leave or else be considered staying illegally subject to immediate deportation.

Cheers.
J

Good try mate, but trust me more Qs will be asked.

e.g, "Hello I am new here,is the Ab initio opened only to non-HKPID?:":ugh::ugh::ugh:

Thanks jumpseatCAPT you at least gave a non-standard PPrune response. I can get the C card in which holder’s stay in the HKSAR is limited by the Director of Immigration.
I am coming to HK in January on a visa joining some ex-pat friends and have a teaching job lined up.

My question again was, in the last intake of AE and TT people, was there many HKID holders amongst them? Would having a HKID of any description be an advantage if AE and TT opens up again to international candidates? I already know the current stoppage is due to the immigration department etc etc.

This is info I can only get on this rumours website from people in the know.

Bathurstwalla
 

From what I gather, people with the right prerequisites for AE and TT are ~90% from overseas, not holding a HKID card. Vast majority of HKID holders do not have the means or need to meet the AE or TT requirements since they can easily take the AB course if they make it past assessments.

So holding a HKID card would not be an advantage for AE and TT unless you're planning on applying for the AB stream. Especially if you only hold a 'C' code on your HKID, by which case, you will be treated the same as a non-HKID expat candidate - and only AE and TT will be available.

Hope this clears up your questions mate.

Cheers.
J

How to issue a employment Visa to non-skilled workers?

Every country will has built in protection for born and bred citizens and hence voters.

Including yours.

Calling all applicants going for initial a on 18 november
 

Hi all, I would say I'm like most or rather all of the other new comers in this thread, so I will skip all the drama.

I have read sufficient pages on this thread to grasps whats there to expect for the first few stages prior to interview.

So I am calling out to the applicants who are going to be attending the same Initial A on 18 November, perhaps we could gather earlier and discuss. I am definitely open to making new friends through this opportunity, and possibly helping each other.

:ok::ok:

Stage 2 on 25th Nov, anyone? If so, pm me. I have a few in the group already. :ok:

final interview
 

Hey,

i see you are going for the final interview in HK.
Is it for the Cadet entry or the Advanced entry? I've been waiting myself
for ages for an invite for the final stage.

grtz,

Loek

Welcome to the Wannabes forum. Seeing as this is your first post, maybe you're a lurker and have been reading along this whole thread but I'm going to have to assume a few things anyways.

First, I'd recommend you to read this whole thread. All 275 pages because it does contain almost all the information you may need: past users' experiences, the old and new tests/system of the selection process, etc.

Lastly, please use proper English.

Good luck.

FWIW, one of the objectives of the interview is to determine if you're a good "fit", someone we could spend 8 hours alone on a flight deck with.

If you've concerns about not presenting well in person, you should address this if you really want to work for CX as a pilot.

Absolutely concur.

Flying,SA,RT,technical skills etc can be developed and nurtured.

Social skills,IQ and EQ are built in.

Hi guys, and Capt. Underpants.

I hope you don't find me as being impatient, but I would like to ask if there's anyone who can tell me how soon would Cathay reply to the individuals in regards to their progression onto initial B (after initial A).

I wouldn't want to make any assumptions (either way), but it would be comforting (sort of) to know that some successful candidates did not receive the invite on the day itself. As now is about 7pm, and I would imagine that they are working as any office staff, it would probably be tomorrow...

FINGERS CROSSED! :ok::ok::ok:

By the way, if there are those who were there today as well, drop me a message, would definitely like to keep in touch :)

You. Are. Very. Impatient. :sad:

I know that I may be so - hence my initial apologies, for which I had stated in my last posting...

However, I don't think can blame anyone who is currently undergoing said process. If you do, either you are surprisingly talented or just looking for an excuse for a post...

You can say all you can - but when you are actually in the middle of it - there's really nothing you can do about it - until you get a response. So please, I'm not seeking unhelpful advice, therefore unless you have good things to say - else say nothing at all. A philosophy which I assume many companies have picked up for their candidates selection, and perhaps you too.

I know my faults, I do not need a third party to point that out... :=:=:=

Wow, a bit like the character in 'The Bates Hotel'.

Perhaps some of you might find my reply to flyer_spotter to be quite harsh, and I do apologize for that if you do. Well perhaps this is because of the anxiety that I'm currently feeling.

:ugh::ugh::ugh:

Well, cheerios!

Well you sound like you'd be a joy both to train, and to sit next to long haul in a tiny box with little to do: no respect for seniority, doesn't take criticism well, lives in a fantasy world where others must say something nice or nothing at all, no patience whatsoever, gets "anxious" over Stage 1A let alone a jet full of pax, doesn't think to ask standard job interview questions... at a job interview. Also doesn't seem to know what an apology is as there are none in the former post, but even if there were, is yet to learn that "sorry" doesn't give a carte blanche.

And Pilot For Life (even though you have barely started...) being in the interview process is no excuse. You are not a special little snowflake. Many other interviewees - myself included - have managed to contain ourselves.

If you'd be so kind as to stop giving the rest of us a bad name, along with the txt spk ppl above, I'd be most grateful.

Well, cornflakes!

This is what I was afraid of... and wanted to avoid at all costs...

I do not want to start a heated argument on this. Okay fine, should the term apology mean little, and you seek the term sorry, I am sorry for the way I may have acted.

I have seen and felt how terrible it is for a pilot enthusiast who is seeking information on this thread to have to read through numerous pages of such heated conversations between individuals. So please stop it.

Yes I know how professional you may sound, and I appreciate what you are trying to say but you clearly can't assume everyone would feel and act the same.

So lets just end this unrelated discussion on the matter and continue with the actual topic of this thread.

Thank you and once again if you are still unsatisfied.
I'M SORRY to all those who are apparently intolerable to matters such as this.

And a reply to plane-crazy's post, well I do not know if you are already a successful pilot or not, but my name suggests that I am an enthusiast who wants and is ready to be a pilot for life, as compared to yours (well lets just not go there)...

PilotForLife8888
 

Have patience. Except for stage 2, cx never gets back to candidates on the same day. Could be weeks or months. So just chill, grab a beer (or mojito), and relax.

Also try to learn to take criticism well, as you will be checked and criticized upon endlessly through training (checking) and flying. Everyone's entitled to their opinion (especially true on a forum), and your reaction to it or how you handle it will determine how others see you; as someone that is logical/critical or someone that loses their sh!t easily.

Cheers.
J

Thank you jumpseatCAPT!

For both your response to my question and console. Looking back - perhaps my temper got the better of me for an instant. And there's also the fact that I am just beginning many things, one of which is posting to forums (for which most of the time I just am a observer) maybe I'm just not that experienced with taking criticism. I'll definitely reflect on that.

Now if only people were more like jumpseatCAPT (including myself) perhaps there'd be less meaningless arguments.

Pilotforlife,

Having read all the above, you really do lack patience. You really needa work on that. Not Joking. Stage 1b's results will take even longer than 1a's, so be prepared not to ask the waiting time for it when you are at that stage. Just try your best in 1b if u pass 1a, and wait PATIENTLY for your results.

Cheers,

Serviceman

TT Courses
 

So, 12 months has well and truly lapsed. Yet we are still waiting. Having passed up a few sort after jobs here in Australia, I'm beginning to doubt I made the right call. Recruitment still can't give an answer. What's going on??

Do you have a HK(P)ID?

If not, then click the link http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far...ml#post8136148

Yes, we've all heard the speculations and I'm not denying them.

The point is, having passed all assessments, interviews, 747 sim check etc and given a 'yes letter' well over a year ago, we are still being told to hold on for a start date. If immigration or other issues are the case, why can't they just officially tell us? If they had, I would have taken my experience elsewhere.

What speculations?

It is firm, no non-HKID holders until further notice.

Why don't they just let you know it will not happen any time soon? To keep the experience in a pool ready at the snap of a finger.

747? just in time to send it to Victorville mate.

NZ744

Just out of interest, what is your level of experience? Hours, most complex/heaviest type etc.

I'm curious as to what experience this iCadet program is attracting.

Please don't feel obligated to reply in the public domain - a PM would more than suffice.

Hey Cpt,

Out of interest do you know for a fact that the HKID is affecting all the SO streams (Cadet, AE, TT) and not just the Cadets, or is it just an opinion?

It's a fact.

The training plans for 2014/5 have just been released and the numbers don't look promising for anything other than HK(P)ID holders - the numbers are so low that they can easily fill the courses offered without going outside of what the HKG Immigration department will allow.