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da_vichy 16th Oct 2012 05:57

Wow. Here I am thinking they might not accept anyone past their 30s! Good on them! What did that cadet do in their previous life?

cx252 17th Oct 2012 07:21


I know a 40yo Cathay Cadet on the 61 week course.
which batch?


What did that cadet do in their previous life?
life is not easy for some of us.

yugo986 17th Oct 2012 09:35

I never made it to the interview part unfortunately. One would have to meet all the test requirements to be eligible for stage 2.

FYI- Compass test is the computerized testing program CX.

Thanks for the support everyone.

H E Pennypacker 17th Oct 2012 10:05

I just got a confirmation email for my initial B stage assessment next week. The email includes a 15min “compass test –control” which wasn’t mentioned in the first invitation email they sent last time. Can anyone who’s recently done the initial B stage tell us what’s involved? I’m guessing it’s a hand-eye co-ordination test, so is it just the same slalom and pedal/joystick test from initial A? Or something different like a flight director, keeping the cross centred type task?

Ezreal 17th Oct 2012 10:40

hi guys,
I have submitted my application on late Sep.
and i read that some of u are undergoing the interview process
Is that mean i will have to wait a bit longer before the next round of interview?

theflying 18th Oct 2012 14:21

any 1500hr + people that are in?

Fabby88 18th Oct 2012 19:11

Stage 2,
 
I just got an email from Cathay saying im shortlisted to Stage 2, but i dont know when yet
is there any tips and what to prepare for from you experienced people who took the Stage 2 already ? Any help would be appreciated !! PM me if you want!!
Thanks !!!

The Kelpie 20th Oct 2012 02:43

D n B

I'd brush up on your full IF flying skills if I were you as I believe it is a full IF flight with approaches.

Good Luck

The Kelpie

Farenheit06 22nd Oct 2012 10:29

Hi all,

I posted my application form in late September and I wonder how much time I should expect before getting a convocation from recruitment team. Does anyone of you have a clue ?

Many thanks to all for your answer.

lipoho 22nd Oct 2012 15:47

Did anyone still waiting for the replay for the sate 1a interview?because I submitted my application on the early of July and I still didn't receive any feedback.

flyer_spotter 22nd Oct 2012 18:20

Sending in my application this week.

Any HKID holders from California here?

Fabby88 23rd Oct 2012 13:56

usually it takes a long time before you get called up for an initial interview..
expect to wait more than half a year.

lipoho 23rd Oct 2012 15:04

but I know some people get invitation for stage 1a after a month they apply.

I think if I put HK as my first prefer location, is this going to speed up the whole process?

Fabby88 24th Oct 2012 17:24

you can try but i doubt it would,
there are so many applicants every month/yr
you are already the good bunch to be asked for intial interview
patience is virtue in Cathay world

NotInTheNavy 24th Oct 2012 19:48

'Preparing for Your Cathay Pacific Interview: The Pilot's Guide' by Capt X, Y & Z
 
I have a copy of this I no longer require (11th Edition). PM me if you're interested.

I'll even throw in a copy of 'The Ultimate SO Guide, by Second Officers X, Y and Z', to keep things balanced :ok:

heehee85 27th Oct 2012 13:17

About the Compass test in initial A
 
Dear all,

I heard that there are seven sections of the compass test, including a technical test.
Anyone know the details of them?
What questions they ask in the technical test?

cheers

orangeboy 27th Oct 2012 23:44

For the basic compass test (ab initio candidates), the technical test is actually a physics test. The level is high school level physics. Everyone gets slightly different questions, so there is probably a memory bank of questions which the computer randomly selects each time. There's about 10-15 questions from memory. e.g they give you a picture of several cog wheels and asks which one spins the quickest.

In the advanced compass test (advanced entry candidates), the technical test is more aviation related.

The hand eye coordination section is also different between the 2 tests. Advanced compass does a ILS type test where as the basic compass test has a slalom course and a pitch and rudder control type test.

Maths test is not overly hard, but requires good speed at calculations to finish. If you can do long divisions, additions, fraction, speed/distance etc relatively quickly, you should be fine.

Memory test is about remembering some numbers and then retyping them for the computer. Its things like radio frequency, altitude, heading and speed.

Orientation test, the computer will explain how to complete this task, and then based on reading the instructions CAREFULLY, apply your new knowledge to work out which is the correct answer. There will be an artificial horizon and ADF/RMI type indicator, and all you have to do is based on what these instruments are showing determine which aircraft matches the displays. There will be several aircrafts displayed obviously. You try and get through as many as possible in the time given. But please read the instructions carefully, if you don't understand how it works, you will get them all wrong.

lipoho 28th Oct 2012 00:43

I found out that there should be one more test for the task management.

Please correct if I am wrong.

orangeboy 28th Oct 2012 01:21

Ah yes, you are correct, forgot about that. That is basically entering information into an FMC type display, whilst cancelling warning lights.

heehee85 28th Oct 2012 02:52

Thanks for the detailed description. It really helps.

I am wondering whether the paper work is allowed in the math test. I am not good at managing complicated mental math.

wing boy 29th Oct 2012 11:40

Cadetship confusion. Please Help!
 
I completed my Business degree last year with very good marks in all my subjects (Final GPA of 3.1). Over the past few months I have been flying once a week at the Central Coast Aero Club in Warnervale and now have 12 hours flying experience. I completed my Pre-solo exam a few weeks back and my instructor has indicated I am ready to go solo. The weather hasn't been great the last few times I have gone flying so I am yet to go solo. Weather permitting; I plan to go solo this Wednesday.

I intend on applying for the next round of cadetships with Cathay Pacific, Virgin Australia and Jetstar. I anticipate that my Uni marks, flying experience and passion will be sufficient to be seriously considered. In the mean time, I would like to keep flying and get my PPL however I am uncertain if it is worth getting my PPL if I will have to go through the whole process again (assuming I am accepted into a cadet program). My parents have said they will support me to get my PPL as long as I contribute also. If I do continue my training and get my PPL it will mean that I will have to pay for part of my PPL training, all of my cadetship training (if I get in) and also repay my uni degree loan which is $27k.


So my question is: Do you think having my PPL will set me above the rest when it comes to getting selected for a regular cadetship, or do you think I should complete my student training and then stop flying pending acceptance into a cadetship?

Please help!

Juliette Alpha 29th Oct 2012 12:18

Wing Boy
 
First of all, do you have a Hong Kong ID card? If not then you need to have a CPL just to be considered for the cadet program. I really suggest you research more into this as it doesn't seem you have done much. First of all, the training in the Cathay Cadet Program is paid for completely by Cathay, you are only bonded for 6 years of service. In the cadet program you will be assessed on your flying skills based on how many hours you have, that way they are not assessing someone with zero hours against a PPL holder. Getting a PPL won't hurt (apart from making flight grading harder) and it would show enthusiasm but in my opinion it won't help you that much.

aronkari 29th Oct 2012 21:27

Been waiting for a year now
 
I sent in an advanced cadet application about a year ago but i haven´t heard anything from them, i´ve heard the wait can be long but is a year really normal? :uhoh:

V_2 29th Oct 2012 21:37

From what I gather, if you apply at a time they are not really focusing on your geographic area, you are pretty much lost forever. Think I've been waiting about 30 months now ;)

tarmac12 29th Oct 2012 22:13

How long?
 
I had an application in for just short of 2 years before I got a call to stage 1. I only started sending in updates after 18 months. I think that is what did the trick.

Every 4 or 5 months send and email to the recruitment address with an hours update. That way you stay in the loop (my opinion only)

When I went to stage 2 the only people with 250 hours or less were Hong Kong ID card holders. The rest of us had 1000 to 3000 hours. Think they may be shying away from the 250 Cpl's these days. That's just my opinion again.

aronkari 29th Oct 2012 23:04

.
 
Yea i sent them my updated resume yesterday and they acknowledged, i don´t want to sound pushy and try to get information from them about the waiting time but i really thought due to the rapid expansion in asia that the process would be faster, but they must get allot of applications :}

Bye Bye Baby 30th Oct 2012 08:47

Rapid expansion in Asia, maybe, but contraction in CX for sure.

SkylineR34 30th Oct 2012 08:54

Has anyone received invitation to attend first test/interview in Nov in HK??

magic_nic 31st Oct 2012 02:19

Anyone going for group exercise n paneal interview on 12th nov or that period? Wanna meet up n do some preparation tgt? If yes please pm me. Thanks.

VeroFlyer 31st Oct 2012 22:30

Received these words in an email from Cathay Pacific a couple of weeks ago:

"We recently received the Training Plan outlining the crew requirements for 2013, and unfortunately it indicates a reduction in our training requirements from those originally projected for the next twelve months. The ground school quota for the short term future will be fulfilled by new joiners currently on course. Unless there is a change to the current projection, it looks unlikely that we will have a requirement to commence any new Second Officer TT courses within the next 10 to 12 months."

Don't expect much to happen anytime soon, sorry to burst anyones bubble, but no one else seemed to be posting the facts!

Captain Dart 31st Oct 2012 22:51

...but there is some solace in that when CX decides to slow down recruiting, it usually means that the airline industry is about to pick up.

pilotchute 1st Nov 2012 03:55

The facts
 
Vero,

First I must ask what stage of the process are you at? Was it addressed to you personally or was it a group send?

VeroFlyer 1st Nov 2012 10:28

@pilotchute,

Passed everything about 6 months ago and was accepted onto the TT program. But then got this email 2 weeks ago.
And yes it was a personal email.

pilotchute 1st Nov 2012 12:02

Vero,

The CX crew I have spoken to have said that they are still really short of SO's so I don't understand the projection. The only thing I can think of is that maybe they simply can't train 'em fast enough and now they have a training backlog.

VeroFlyer 1st Nov 2012 12:24

Well I have no idea as I also have SO friends at CX who say the same thing, but i'd be more inclined to believe an email direct from HR.

Bye Bye Baby 1st Nov 2012 13:16

Yep HR would never lie

Mr Boombastick 2nd Nov 2012 18:20

Hi,

I applied for the ab initio about a year ago, recently having now passed the uk ATPL exams, CPL etc I recently updated them.

I have now been offered an ab initio interview, however was hoping to qualify for the advanced entry as I am now eligible.

Does anyone know if this is the normal way of processing AE applicants or is it likely I will be required to complete the full 61 week course? (if I am successful of course)

Also, does anyone know if you can use a pencil and paper to work out the maths problems on the compass test?

Many thanks

Fabby88 2nd Nov 2012 21:22

Hi,

What are you guys talking about the TT course for Second Officer??
Would it affect the people on the final stage of the interview process for ab-initial entry . Thanks!!

flyber 4th Nov 2012 19:18

cx ab initio non hkid
 
Anybody with any idea as to whether Cathay will recall those icadets who were in the interview process prior to the immigration ruling? I was at stage 3 because I was put in holding pool.

Wing Wing 6th Nov 2012 02:51

Hi SkylineR34,
I'll have my Initial A selection on this Thursday and studying hard on technical knowledge at the moment.
I am also looking for someone who is willing to share knowledges, study together thus supporting each other.

Please call me or Email me to [email protected]


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