@Robertson, You think I fly a metro liner?, that was just an example...haha! god no, do you think I have a death wish?!?!

I never knew metros were unsafe. Looking back over your previous posts got me curious. Who do you work for and what have you been flying?

to 12 May Team
 

Guys,

Did anyone receive any answer from HR?

thx,

Paul

Vero...That's too bad. If I was on an airplane and knew the pilot had thousands of hours flying in the Canadian arctic in Metro's I'd feel pretty good. The real interesting part of flying Metro's or other airplanes in harsh conditions is that the experience is the best teacher. There is no substitute for that and CX knows that and for those who think they can circumvent that type of flying and get onto a transport category airplane you are mistaken. The kids who don't understand the importance of getting the exam first and then the lesson after will be missing out on the most important and fun part of any aviation on the job training. There is just no way CX will be able to move zero or low time pilots into flying positions on the heavy metal with any degree of long-term safety. This has been tried by Asian airlines for years and they have the worst safety records outside of Africa and Russia (they were only able to change this when they brought back experienced Western pilots). CX does understand this and when they do have a real shortage of co-pilots as thier Captains retire they will bring back direct entry candidates again who have thousands of jet hours. I doubt they would put their planes and reputation in the hands of a pilot who hasn't Touched the controls of an airplane in years where the only flying they did do before that was at a flight school in single engine Tobago's. Common guys...think this through. Your going into fill an immediate need as cheap labor only. They'd put flight attendants in that position if they could but they earn too much. The likelyhood of real advancement without real flight time in aviation is real low. Sorry to rain on people's parade but that's the way I see it. CX doesent really intend to move you into flying positions and they don't exactly have a great reputation of fulfilling promises either. They will do whats in their best interest not yours.

Guys,


Everyone has to start somewhere.

In this weird world at most of airlines if you dont know someone they wont employ you. They wont give you a chance to show how much you are prepared for an interview. If you are a son of a captain or you know someone from the management than the doors opening...

How and where should these guys build jet hours???

Every airlines wants F/O-s with thousand of jet hours. Preferred if these hours on the type what the airline use.

These guys just wants to realize their dreams. its not a sin. Everyone here just would like to fly...

This is a vicious circle, they need only experienced pilots on jets....but how should them fly on jets if nobody give a chance?

I think nobody was born with 5000 hours on jet.


Let's fly and never give up your dreams!

@Lucky87... You can say I am boosting my self esteem by saying the pay is not so good. It might work out for single guys in their early twenties but not for guys like me who has to take care of things when you are reaching the late twenties.

I am not against the cadetship program. CX is one of the only airlines currently in the world that has a program for people from all around the world. And its a great platform and really appreciate the opportunity that CX gives to a lot of people every year. You would learn a lot from the program as well. Everything has pros and cons. For me, on the long run CX's program has more cons then pros for me. But it was a learning experience for sure.

It is an individual choice for sure. Some might like it some might not. At the end of the day everyone wants to be up front in that cockpit be it a shiny jet or a single engine piston. That is what we as pilots want rather than to sit on the ground.

June Interviews In SFO
 

Anyone with an interview set for early June in San Francisco?

jack
 

that's alright jack, I was just being a cock, had a crap day... hope no offence was taken :)



Btw, I received an email last night and I've been shortlisted for the 2nd stage interview.

CX Application for 61weeks course - Jan 2012 (i have 0 flight hours)
1st stage Interview -16 April (in Sydney)
1st stage Results - 22 May

lucky86
 

congrats on passing your stage 1!

please keep us posted!

i have 0 flight hours as well, how did you study for your JKI test? did you dig deeper and did you find the MC's tricky? as well how did you do you the reasoning? did you find it relatively easy?

doublexhalin
 

thanks doublexhalin, more than happy to keep wannabes like us updated, I got heaps of help on this forum as well!

to answer your questions:
how did you study for your JKI test?
like how i would study for anything else.. but i also got myself the bob tait VFR BAK which was really good.


did you dig deeper and did you find the MC's tricky?
MC was pretty straight forward if you studied.


as well how did you do you the reasoning?
horrible. raven's matrix was a pain in the asss to do.


did you find it relatively easy?
it was ok, wont say it was easy...

HK ID
 

I have read through this thread but couldn't find any information regarding the different kinds of HK IDs that are accepted by Cathay.

I do not have an HK ID yet but am currently in the process of the application. I was not born in Hong Kong but am a child of a parent that was. From the information that I have gathered, I will most likely be getting an HK ID with 1 star. Would Cathay accept applications with 1 star or is it only for 3 star HK ID holders?

Thanks,
Joe

Icao Retest
 

Hi mates, anybody with an idea on how Icao English Retest is conducted for international applicants who don't reside in Hong Kong?

Flypaul, and jet pilots are not born with 250 hours of Tobago time either. I had almost 3000 hours of muti time before I touched a jet and it was still a challenge! I'm only trying to open peoples eyes to the fact that the longest distance between two points is a short cut. CX SO position is not any time, either jet or propeller. Seriously, you'd be better off instructing for a few years then moving into a commuter airline. CX is not offeri g anyone a flying job...sorry.

lucky86
 

Hi lucky86,

Congrats on passing Stage 1!

While you were waiting for your results, did CX call you in for the ICAO English Test?

I did my Stage 1 about a week ago. I am still waiting for results
One of the candidates (who resides in HK) got a call do do his ICAO test. however, there was no call for me to do the ICAO Test. Perhaps that has to do with the fact that I reside in Toronto and it may be grouped together with Stage 2? (which I hope I will make it to)
Looks like it does take quite some time from Stage 1 to Stage 2.
As they say, no news is good news. (I haven't got any rejection emails yet)

Best of Luck in Stage 2!!

Robertson31,

I absolutelly agree with you. It was not against you. i just outlined my opinion.

I know lot of guys who had only 250 hours CPL time and 10 hours on ME and they got the F/O seat....this is the life.....someone musts to walk towards his dream on a long way and someone has shortest way...

wish the best

Flypaul...it's all good. I'm just glad I'm not flying as a passenger on that plane;) By the way, I'm just giving my opinion on here not preaching religion. Some will agree, others won't and many others still will have very different views. What's important is for all regardless of age try and listen to everyone before making a choice...that's what CRM has tought us! I'm also a former flight instructor and I do get passionate about younger pilots on a good career path trying to take a short cut and putting too much faith in any one airline or employer. this is perhaps more a NA attitude which is very different in other parts of the world I understand.

@lucky87...

no offence taken ...good luck mate...hope the 2nd stage goes well too.

Btw someone said 100,000 euros sign on bonus..hehe was that a joke?

@no.boundaries...when did you start and can you tell us a bit about your benefits then and now? how's life in HK?

@enthusiastic,

Hi,

When did you apply for?

Where the interwiev will be held?

Thx

Hi noboundaries

Can you share your experience of what life is like as a SO

Type of route you fly, lifestyle, financial, training etc

Lucky86,
What did I tell you! Congratulations =)

~cx-hopeful

I have one set for June 7th.

@enthusiastic,

Thanks for answer!

To those who are getting Stage 1 interviews: Are they ab-initio, advanced entry or transitional SO?

Anyone who applied for the Advanced Entry hear anything back yet?

Which cadet program is this for? :)

no.boundaries

Hasnt your package increased over 25% in the last few years,salary,housing allowance

Cx
 

@enthusiastic, CP 52 is for August. I have also heard that they will be another CP class in October.
Btw guys, can a pending Icao retest be converted to a 12 month deferral such that one has to wait until 12 months and be subjected to a repeat of stage 2/3 again? Just experienced it. I had my Icao on February this year (For stage 3) and had been promised a retest in 6 months time only to be shocked to learn that I will instead have another stage 2 and then a retest. Mind you, I had passed stage 2 and proceeded to stage 3. I wonder why their change of heart and this miscommunication?:confused:

Does anyone know when they are going to interview from the UK region next? Anyone on here applied from the UK recently and been contacted?

Flight Grading
 

Hi All,

Does anyone know the flight grading process? There ain't many recent posts on this topic? All I know is it's Adelaide.

How long is the course? FTA run? Is just sim?

Thanks.

Icao
 

@enthusiastic,I have already done stage 2 and made it to stage 3 where I did medical and Icao, but was referred for a retest in 6 months time. I wonder why the news of a 12 months deferral and another stage 2 interview later?

Advanced Entry.

Hi

No boundaries

U mention ur normal route are to Australia n Dubai n fly airbus

Do majority of the SO start off on these routes and aircraft

The course
 

@lucky 86
Explains the program a bit :) :ok:

does anyone know how to classify a 777300 from 777300ER just by looking at it?

So i guess i'd have to look at the engine sticker to find out?

Stage 2 offer
 

Has anyone else recieved an offer for the Stage 2 interview in HK but yet not given dates? I got my email notification of a stage 2 interview about 6 weeks ago and still no date.

anyone else encountering this?

300er has a greater wingspan. Almost 4 meters on the whole lenght.

Distinguishing feature : Raked wingtips (on the 773-ER)

The easiest thing that you can see regarding the difference between the 300 and 300ER are the engines with their logos.

The 300 is a Rolls Royce one, and the 300ER is one from GE with 115,000lbs. Just tick it in at google, you'll see the logos..

________________________________________________

Someone news regarding the recruitment policy? Is it still closed for ab initios (non-HKID)?

-300: Normal wingtips -ER: Raked wingtips
-300: Smaller RR engines -ER: Bigger GE engines
-300: Engine sticker is a black square with RR on it
http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/o...ce-Sticker.jpg
-ER: Grey GE sticker
http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/o...PX2466_rsz.jpg

-300: Normal 777 Landing Gear -ER: Semi-Levered Main Gear (includes an extra hydraulic actuator on the main gear)
http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/o...PX2376_rsz.jpg
(These stickers are Cathay specific and will differ for other airlines)

The other obvious way is knowing the tailnumbers.
For Cathay: B777-200: B-HNA to B-HND & B-HNL
B777-300: B-HNE to B-HNK & B-HNM to B-HNQ
B777-3ER: B-KPA to B-KPZ & B-KQA to B-KQB

Hope that helps.