Hong Kong Express...anyone?
 

Just wondering if anyone is aware of the recruitment situation at Hong Kong Express on those Embraers? Their site calls for 1000TT and turbine preferred etc etc....

Anyone work there or know some insides of the compnay ...willing to share info?

Thanks

Canyon Runner,

Crew experience varies. Most Co's are around 2-4000hrs with Captains typically around 4-6000hrs with some higher. Most pilots are from turbo prop backgrounds but some with jet experience also.

Hope this helps.

Sum Yung Guy

I've been sending them my resume for the past year and I can't get anything from them. I got thousands of experience on E145/140, so I don't know what they're looking for. :hmm:

I think they've completed the hiring process for this year. However the sister company Golden Dragon is still to be started up this year, no pilots for that outfit so far. We haven't been told if we're going to fly those or if they'll hire new crews to live in Macau.

The hiring process has not finished ! It is an ongoing process.
The trouble is that the quantity of applications that are received, either by the online system or snail mail, is massive. As there is no pressing immediate need for crew, man hours are being used elsewhere.
Medwin, it may be the case that yours has somehow "slipped through to the keeper". Although there is around 50 guys on file with 145 experience.

Interviews with HKE
 

The word is interviews will be held around March/April but the exact date is still to be confirm by management. HKE still has aircraft 4 to arrive which was scheduled for around the same time.

Looks like the company is in an area of change with the mention of a "B" scale type pay. Not sure what will happen as the market place is now picking up quickly.

As for Golden Dragon, it is expected to launch by the end of 2006 but no date has been set and the type has not been confirmed although the ERJ 170 is likely.

Good luck to those who get interviews.

Salary Package
 

For those with an upcoming interview;


Salary

Captain- $8500.00 usd (Training Capt +5%)
Co Pilot- $6500.00 usd

This is a local contract, no housing and no education.

Relocation allowance- $30,000.00 hkd. After 3 years service a relocation allowance is payed again if you resign.

1 x return ticket/pa to country of domicle.

Local super scheme (not good)

Dental/Medical

This is the original contract. It is believed that the intention of HKE is to offer a "B" scale to all new entrants. At this stage not sure what else will be offered (cut).

There have been changes in management with the resignation of the HR Manager (Nov) and the Fleet Captain (Dec). The jury is out as far as the state of the operation is concerned.

If you are keen to join my only advice is to do the numbers first. Hong Kong is not cheap particularly if you have family.

Sounds like a wind up to me - no one trains for 5%

5%
 

oh yes they do....someones already signed up!!
I hear they are lowering the salaries to match CR's.Best way to divide a workforce.....the old B scale trick

"..........to match CR's" Good way to divide, and get rid of your workforce. How long you keep good employees around is directly related to how you treat them!

To answer the initially question, they interviewed 6 candidates today.....

hong kong express interview
 

so did anyone of the six get hired? how many are they interviewing for how many positions?????

Aren't all F/O's at the moment at US$ 6,000.-?

That was the old salary but the new one is less, not sure how much exactly.

One area that I can confirm is the $36,000.00 USD bank agreement (bond) the company wants for the training. Absolutely CRAZY stuff.

Can anyone that had an interview confirm the package offered.

S.Y Guy

SYG
Very close to the numbers. From what I have heard the BOND is NOT enforceable in HK ie illegal. Which is why Air HK was set up in Singapore and not in HK as it is all above board down there in Singas. I do stand corrected on that though and any facts would be greatly appreciated.
The B scale salary is predicated on sectors flown. Base is topped up by sectors and if more than 40 sectors are flown in the roster then the pay is identical to that of the original offer.
Obviously TC is a harder gent than his replacement and I for one will be asking for what the original guys are getting. After all as the saying goes "if you pay peanuts ....."
These startup operators must realise that they have to make it financially viable for guys to come and live in HK, and as I do realize this company does have deep pockets(and will need to), they must be seen to be making a genuine offer to experienced people. After all it is a real risk!!
SYG, in YHO do you think that the company is open to the old/original offer to an individual if he/she has a training background in multi crew RPT ops.

:ok: For all those who have been offered positions and for those who have interviews on the 6th of March, the "ball" maybe in your court. At this stage a number of individuals have not accepted interviews and we think only one person has accpeted a position at this stage.

If you are going to be poor in Hong Kong flying a jet you might as well be poor living downunder. Go for the money.

What "TC" wants and what "TC" gets might be two different things.

S.Y Guy

Sorry, forgot.

The gent TC replaced was a top bloke who's credentials are second to none called Felix Hart. TC is not even in the same "ball park".

S.Y GUY

SYG,
Can you confirm that interviews were held yesterday, and if so how many candidates?

Yes there were interviews yesterday !
Not sure of the numbers.

yes or no yet??
 

Hey anyone got an answer from ya interview yet???

Nothing heard yet...no news is good news, yeah...I hope...?

Found out yesterdat start 21 April.


Anyone presently there please PM me ASAP with your opinion of the whole deal ie how busy/sectors you are flying eyc, new routes to Philipines, Chang MAi and Taiwan if this is true or just propaganda.

I need to know urgently.

Cheers Baxter

I need to know urgently
 

Hi Baxter,

The above destinations are correct but Chang Mai will not be untill May as paperwork has to be approved still. Initially all services will be charter until they can be proved, standard up here.

How did the contract shape up. I think you might have the upper hand.:ok:

Good luck with your decision.

S.Y. Guy

SYG check your PM's

Baxter

Baxter ,

Give it a miss and check your PM. The mythbuster will speak the
truth :* .

Mythbuster,

Have checked PM's and nothing there

Try again, tell all please

Contracts/Resignations
 

Whats going on at HKE.:confused:

There have been a number of pilots interviewed over the past months. Not sure if guys have failed or they have just turned the job down. One thing is for sure with the resignation of yet another Captain the company will be short of pilots.

Is anyone keen to post the salary package that was offered at the last interviews so that everyone can see what is being offered.

Safe flying.

S.Y.Guy

CONTRACTS
 

SYG ,

If they tell everyone whats in the contract , the won't come . Pretzel Logic good man :yuk: .

HKE
 

Those (with children) thinking of coming to HKE should look at the English Schools Foundation Website at www.esf.edu.hk for the latest on fees etc. :ugh:

MOETMAN

Baxter:

What's your previous experience (roughly)?

I have only just picked up this thread. After a brief conversation with a CPA chap the other week, I emailed my CV to the CP. Wondering if it got binned straight away or whether with my experience (just under 900h ish- currently flying a Chieftain) it might have escaped the "delete" key.

HKE
 

MOETMAN ,

Please check your PM's . I need to confirm some worrying info. fast.

touchengo

Resignations/Contracts
 

:confused: Sum Yung Guy ,

What's going on there ?
I hear that the medical insuranse for family has just been pulled from the contract and there are serious pilot morale issues. School fees have just gone up also. Don't think I like the sound of it . Mythbuster sounds like he's on the money.
"Should I Stay or Should I Go Now ?"

I hear moral in the office is at an all time low..............one captain is heading back to the dessert where he came from. With Dragonair hiring HK ATPLS holders with 3000 hours............I bet a few will jump ship.

Busted
 

HKE have been short changing all pilots on their allowances while on course and thats no myth.:yuk:

The floggings will continue until morale is restored .

What to do
 

Touchengo,

I can not confirm the change in medical insurance but as for schools you are definitely on your own. Not sure how much but a couple of our guys pay quite alot for schooling.

As for morale, well it speaks for itself when you look at the amount of new players on this thread. It is a big issue for the DFO as he could sink or swimm on this one. Watch this space

The boy off to the sandpit is just the start as there will be more.:ok:

This a good job to get a 1000hrs jet and then move on but for new Captains on as much as our old Co's and a 36000 usd bond/bank agreement (illegal whatever), would you want to.

As for new Co's on 34000ish hkd? "wow", sounds like cadets to me.

Bloody shame for an operation that has been operating for 7 months. :{

S.Y. Guy

School fees are: 82,900 secondary and 51,200HKD PA for primary. The Tung Chung School is closing down . SYG , check the minutes of last fridays meeting for info on Family Medical Insurance cut.

Nigel Grey

FYI @9000 hrs

@7000 command

@3500 Multi crew 20000kg command

Training Capt with Qantaslink


I said NO a couple of days ago!

Yesterday a trainingscaptain resigned.... Looks like things are getting better :}

OUCH OUCH
 

I guess we all know who that is.............Doing interviews in the sick - VERY SMART

DOCTORS NOTE : SICK DUE TO INTERVIEW STRESS

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